On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 02:03:37PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 09:32:23AM +0100, Paul Slootman wrote:
> > On Wed 14 Mar 2001, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> > >
> > > Hmm, interesting... Why tf did I install apache-perl in the first place?
> >
> > Because the combination apac
#: One thing I now realize I *am* apparently guilty of -- and that is
#: having too high an expectation of what Debian is capable of
#: delivering
#: from upgrades such as testing.
I'd say that unfortunately, you are guilty of not realizing the purpose of
Testing. Testing exists to make mostly st
(I'm not subscribed to this list, due to volume of traffic; but was
advised today to follow up the thread via archives. Please cc any
further comments/responses to me personally off-list. Thanks.)
Many thanks to all who responded both on- and off-list; particularly
those who pointed out the prob
On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 09:32:23AM +0100, Paul Slootman wrote:
> On Wed 14 Mar 2001, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> >
> > Hmm, interesting... Why tf did I install apache-perl in the first place?
>
> Because the combination apache + mod-perl had/has(?) a pretty bad memory
> leak? Which was why apache-per
On Wed 14 Mar 2001, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
>
> Hmm, interesting... Why tf did I install apache-perl in the first place?
Because the combination apache + mod-perl had/has(?) a pretty bad memory
leak? Which was why apache-perl was created in the first place.
Paul Slootman
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On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:22:28PM -0600, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> > But I doubt whether any developer could reproduce this system exactly
> > without an accurate image of my machine state; so I'll start with the
> > big problem (apache) and try to send in a fuller description of all the
> > problem
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 03:39:53PM -0600, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:17:08PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> ...
> > Have you tried running apache (not apache-perl) and loading mod_perl?
> > It looks to me like you've got some problem caused by the prel 5.6
> > upgrade.
>
>
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 11:25:26PM +, Martin WHEELER wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Joey Hess wrote:
...
> > And things broke. This is a suprise?
>
> Yes.
> Shouldn't it be? Please explain.
> (This is the method I have used to incrementally upgrade my installation
> for the past two years -- w
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Joey Hess wrote:
> It's like this. You upgraded to a not-yet-released, beta quality version
> of debian.
This I *now* know. Before upgrading I was given to understand that
testing was a relatively problem-free upgrade to undertake -- not the
rat's nest of incompatibilities a
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 05:40:29PM +, Martin WHEELER wrote:
>
> > He upgraded
> > from a Potato 2.2r2 system to current "testing" and most things broke in
> > serious
> > ways, such that he swears he will never again move from stable releases.
>
> And *how*.
>
> NEVER again. (Certainly n
On Wednesday 14 March 2001 5:40 pm, Martin WHEELER wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > He upgraded
> > from a Potato 2.2r2 system to current "testing" and most things broke
> > in serious ways, such that he swears he will never again move from
> > stable releases.
>
> And
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Chris Bates wrote:
> Debian has two beautiful aspects (speaking as a refugee from NT and
> RedHat): it is very conservative and hence very stable;
agreed -- this is why I have been using it since 1996
> and apt-get install
> is one of the neatest ideas I've seen.
likewise -
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:17:08PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
...
> Have you tried running apache (not apache-perl) and loading mod_perl?
> It looks to me like you've got some problem caused by the prel 5.6
> upgrade.
Hmm, interesting... Why tf did I install apache-perl in the first place?
I p
It's like this. You upgraded to a not-yet-released, beta quality version
of debian. You seem to have done some pretty horrendous hacking to work
around dependancy problems, instead of reporting them:
> This I declined; and proceeded to (re-)install packages individually
> from an apt-get --just-pr
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 01:23:02PM -0600, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> Ok, I'm not in the mood for flamefests today so here's a serious question:
>
> apache here fails to start with (this is from error.log)
>
> [Wed Mar 14 12:36:15 2001] [warn] pid file /var/run/apache.pid overwritten --
> Unclean sh
Ok, I'm not in the mood for flamefests today so here's a serious question:
apache here fails to start with (this is from error.log)
[Wed Mar 14 12:36:15 2001] [warn] pid file /var/run/apache.pid overwritten --
Unclean shutdown of previous Apache run?
Apache.pm failed to load!.
Ok, here's the li
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 05:40:29PM +, Martin WHEELER wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> > I've had to suffer this one - providing telephone support and advice over
> > a week plus to an old and valued friend :) [Hi Martin :) ]
>
> [Hi, Andy! Just about to put this one
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> I've had to suffer this one - providing telephone support and advice over
> a week plus to an old and valued friend :) [Hi Martin :) ]
[Hi, Andy! Just about to put this one to the list but you beat me to
it.]
> He upgraded
> from a Potato 2.2r
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 03:41:42PM -0600, Chad C. Walstrom wrote:
> bash$ at /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache.md5sums | \
^^ that would be "cat" (missing 'c')
> > sed -e 's/usr/\/usr/g' | md5sum -v -c
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On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 03:41:42PM -0600, Chad C. Walstrom wrote:
> Redirecting further discussion of this user-based problem to
> debian-user...
I don't believe it is a user-based problem. It's not the first
post saying "perl upgrade broke my apache" -- unless I'm getting
e-mail from a parallel u
Redirecting further discussion of this user-based problem to
debian-user...
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 02:29:02PM -0600, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> FWIW I installed minimal potato on my box here, upgraded to woody,
> _then_ installed apache and it worked fine. I run apt-get every
> morning and Apache wa
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