Re: Installer partitioning problem (was: System Dorked -- Help! (Interim solution!))

2015-10-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 07:34:48AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 26 October 2015 05:55:10 Martin Str|mberg wrote: > > > In article Gene Heskett > wrote: > > > On Monday 26 October 2015 02:29:04 Martin Str|mberg wrote: > > > > I don't understand why you can't. I can create (and did) > >

Re: bootloader customization (was: System Dorked -- Help...)

2015-10-26 Thread moxalt
On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 13:52:06 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > David Baron composed on 2015-10-25 14:53 (UTC+0200): > > > I started with wheezy 64 bit install and grub2. Did not have any clue how > > it worked but it did. When upgraded to Sid, added a kernel and wanted to > > keep the older on around

Re: Installer partitioning problem (was: System Dorked -- Help! (Interim solution!))

2015-10-26 Thread David Wright
Your threading appears to be broken, possibly because you reply to a digest article? I think this was in reply to Message-Id: <201510260331.37495.ghesk...@shentel.net> Quoting Martin Str|mberg (a...@ludd.luth.se): > In article Gene Heskett > wrote: > > On Monday 26 October 2015 02:29:04 Martin

Re: Installer partitioning problem (was: System Dorked -- Help! (Interim solution!))

2015-10-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 26 October 2015 11:34:48 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 26 October 2015 05:55:10 Martin Str|mberg wrote: > > In article Gene Heskett > > wrote: > > > On Monday 26 October 2015 02:29:04 Martin Str|mberg wrote: > > > > I don't understand why you can't. I can create (and did) > > > > part

Re: Installer partitioning problem (was: System Dorked -- Help! (Interim solution!))

2015-10-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 26 October 2015 05:55:10 Martin Str|mberg wrote: > In article Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 26 October 2015 02:29:04 Martin Str|mberg wrote: > > > I don't understand why you can't. I can create (and did) > > > partitions of 200 MB size. I use the text based installer and > > > man

Re: Installer partitioning problem (was: System Dorked -- Help! (Interim solution!))

2015-10-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 26 October 2015 09:55:10 Martin Str|mberg wrote: > In article Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 26 October 2015 02:29:04 Martin Str|mberg wrote: > > > I don't understand why you can't. I can create (and did) partitions of > > > 200 MB size. I use the text based installer and manual par

Re: Installer partitioning problem (was: System Dorked -- Help! (Interim solution!))

2015-10-26 Thread Martin Str|mberg
In article Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 26 October 2015 02:29:04 Martin Str|mberg wrote: > > I don't understand why you can't. I can create (and did) partitions of > > 200 MB size. I use the text based installer and manual partitioning. > > > On a 4k/sector, 2 terabyte disk? I tried from 500

Re: Installer partitioning problem (was: System Dorked -- Help! (Interim solution!))

2015-10-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 26 October 2015 02:29:04 Martin Str|mberg wrote: > In article Gene Heskett wrote: > > The worst part of that is that the partitioner will not accept a 1 > > gigabyte partition, which is a great plenty, so I was forced to use > > 5% of the disk as a boot partition. > > I don't understa

Installer partitioning problem (was: System Dorked -- Help! (Interim solution!))

2015-10-25 Thread Martin Str|mberg
In article Gene Heskett wrote: > The worst part of that is that the partitioner will not accept a 1 > gigabyte partition, which is a great plenty, so I was forced to use 5% > of the disk as a boot partition. I don't understand why you can't. I can create (and did) partitions of 200 MB size. I

Re: bootloader customization (was: System Dorked -- Help...)

2015-10-25 Thread Felix Miata
David Baron composed on 2015-10-25 14:53 (UTC+0200): > I started with wheezy 64 bit install and grub2. Did not have any clue how it > worked but it did. > When upgraded to Sid, added a kernel and wanted to keep the older on around > just-in-case, I > had no idea how to do this with Grub2 so I

Re: System Dorked -- Help! (Interim solution!)

2015-10-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 25 October 2015 08:53:00 David Baron wrote: > On Sunday 25 October 2015 08:19:41 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 25 October 2015 06:57:06 David Baron wrote: > > > Using the live disk, went back to the old (failing!) 80gig disk, > > > edited back to where I was, bound the /dev and chroo

Re: System Dorked -- Help! (Interim solution!)

2015-10-25 Thread Felix Miata
David Baron composed on 2015-10-25 17:29 (UTC+0200): > after the last adventure, what can I do? Partition in advance of starting any installer. It's your machine. You get to have it your way if you take the trouble to make it so. There's no good excuse to get stuck with illogical partition alloca

Re: System Dorked -- Help! (Interim solution!)

2015-10-25 Thread David Baron
> * * * > > How do I make custom boot menus, kernel, init choices and such using the > > Grub? > > Heh. For just updating the kernel, it's automatic in Wheezy and > beyond. but for other purposes, it's a real riot. You might want to > stay with lilo for the time being. > > But you do want to look

Re: System Dorked -- Help! (Interim solution!)

2015-10-25 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:53 PM, David Baron wrote: > On Sunday 25 October 2015 08:19:41 Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On Sunday 25 October 2015 06:57:06 David Baron wrote: > >> > Using the live disk, went back to the old (failing!) 80gig disk, > >> > edited back to where I was, bound the /dev and chro

Re: System Dorked -- Help! (Interim solution!)

2015-10-25 Thread David Baron
On Sunday 25 October 2015 08:19:41 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 25 October 2015 06:57:06 David Baron wrote: > > Using the live disk, went back to the old (failing!) 80gig disk, > > edited back to where I was, bound the /dev and chroot and mounted what > > I needed. > > update-initramfs and lilo

Re: System Dorked -- Help! (Interim solution!)

2015-10-25 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:57 PM, David Baron wrote: > Using the live disk, went back to the old (failing!) 80gig disk, edited back > to where I was, bound the /dev and chroot and mounted what I needed. > > update-initramfs and lilo worked without any segfault. Up until here, I'm sort-of following

Re: System Dorked -- Help! (Interim solution!)

2015-10-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 25 October 2015 06:57:06 David Baron wrote: > Using the live disk, went back to the old (failing!) 80gig disk, > edited back to where I was, bound the /dev and chroot and mounted what > I needed. > update-initramfs and lilo worked without any segfault. > > So back up. Time to buy another

Re: System Dorked -- Help! (Interim solution!)

2015-10-25 Thread David Baron
Using the live disk, went back to the old (failing!) 80gig disk, edited back to where I was, bound the /dev and chroot and mounted what I needed. update-initramfs and lilo worked without any segfault. So back up. Time to buy another big disk and move stuff or reinstall with Jesse. Trouble is th

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-25 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > Tried appending "single" to other commands. Is this LILO related ? (Or what other commands, exactly ?) It is not easy to imagine what you see and try. > Took my root password which implies my users and > passwords are intact! The recognition of user and password relies on a very small p

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-23 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, after Brian's mail in another thread made me execute systemctl list-units i believe to understand what you meant with "LSB". There's a lot of systemd units which have "LSB:" as prefix of their description. (But no "debug-shell.service", to my great relief.) To quote Ben Hutchings from Debia

Re: Thread dorked. (was: Re: System Dorked -- Help!)

2015-10-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 21 October 2015 18:39:45 d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: > Please confirm this is plain text :-) :-) I can read it now. Your OP was totally incomprehensible here too. KMail-Trinity. Combined with partial sight. Lisi

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > From mount of root partition in Debian live session, moun --bind /dev to > root partition's dev, Do i get it right that are trying to start your hard disk installed Linux from a running LiveCD Linux ? Interesting stunt. But far from being standard. > On booting, get errors. Can get to con

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-22 Thread d_baron
- Original Message - From: Joel Rees Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:34 am Subject: Re: System Dorked -- Help! To: d_ba...@012.net.il Cc: debian-user > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:32 PM,  wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > From: d_ba...@012.net.i

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-22 Thread d_baron
- Original Message - From: Thomas Schmitt Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:53 pm Subject: Re: System Dorked -- Help! To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Hi, > > > Hope all those >'s do not foul this up. > > No danger. > The only problem with "

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:32 PM, wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: d_ba...@012.net.il > Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:18 am > Subject: Re: System Dorked -- Help! > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > >> - Original Message - >>

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > Hope all those >'s do not foul this up. No danger. The only problem with ">" is the dreaded ">From" mailbox escape which might be confused with ">From" meant as quote. > I am using a Debian live CD. So that Kali business comes from there but is > nowhere shown when running of the CD. Str

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread d_baron
- Original Message - From: Thomas Schmitt Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:31 pm Subject: Re: System Dorked -- Help! To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Hi, > > Disclaimer: I am much more programmer than sysadmin. > > d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: > > I had been

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Disclaimer: I am much more programmer than sysadmin. d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: > I had been running an up-to-date Sid so > maybe that is the problem. The lilo is on the partition, It is unusual to combine Debian Sid with bootloader LILO. Installation plants GRUB2 by default. I never install

Thread dorked. Was: Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: > I apologize for any unreadable gibberish. It does not look like that here, > only in quoted replies from the thread. It seems to become consensus that several different mail clients were needed to mess it up. So it seems wise to just give them all no chance by usin

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread Felix Miata
d_ba...@012.net.il composed on 2015-10-21 20:45 (UTC+0300): > ...So what can I do about this? I'm unable to follow what happened due to lack of partition and disk details. Maybe others who would try to help have the same problem. Provide output from fdisk -l or gdisk -l and maybe the help limitat

Re: Thread dorked. Was: Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread David Wright
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net): > as a bystander i must say that the involved mail clients > invest much effort in making this thread a mess. > > In the archives, the initial message is quite readable > but with seriously oversized lines: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/1

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread d_baron
: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 4:58 pm Subject: Re: System Dorked -- Help! To: debian-user@lists.debian.org On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:32:40 +0300 d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: - Original Message - From: d_ba...@012.net.ilDate: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:18 amSubject: Re: System Dorked -- Help! To

Re: Thread dorked. (was: Re: System Dorked -- Help!)

2015-10-21 Thread d_baron
I apologize for any unreadable gibberish. It does not look like that here, only in quoted replies from the thread. Due to the system dorked problem, I am stuck on the live distro. I can only sensibly due email from the provider's mail site. Those gt signs which are really what is fowling things

Re: System Dorked -- Help

2015-10-21 Thread d_baron
Version without any markup-interpreted markings- Original Message -From: Renaud OLGIATI (Ron)Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 4:58 pmSubject: Re: System Dorked -- Help!To: debian-user@lists.debian.orgOn Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:32:40 +0300d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: - Original Message

Re: Thread dorked. (was: Re: System Dorked -- Help!)

2015-10-21 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2015-10-21 10:53 (UTC-0400): >> > > Quoting the relevant query: "So what can I do about this?" >> > > Send properly formatted mail, so it is legible ? >> > +1, this stuff isn't readable. Readable as in legible, yes, but an unintelligible mess, so not really readable. >

Thread dorked. Was: Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, as a bystander i must say that the involved mail clients invest much effort in making this thread a mess. In the archives, the initial message is quite readable but with seriously oversized lines: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/10/msg01079.html The two follow-ups by the original

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread Gene Heskett
rote: > > > > - Original Message -From: d_ba...@012.net.ilDate: > > > > Wednesday, > > > > > > > > October 21, 2015 11:18 amSubject: Re: System Dorked -- Help!To: > > > > >debian-user@lists.debian.org> - Original Message

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread Darac Marjal
Wednesday, > > > October 21, 2015 11:18 amSubject: Re: System Dorked -- Help!To: > > > >debian-user@lists.debian.org> - Original Message -> From: > > > d_ba...@012.net.il> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:24 am> > > > >Subject:

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread Gene Heskett
esday, October 21, 2015 11:18 amSubject: Re: System Dorked -- > >> Help!To: >debian-user@lists.debian.org> - Original Message > >> -> From: d_ba...@012.net.il> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 > >> 10:24 am> >Subject: System Dorked -- Help!> T

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 October 2015 09:56:18 Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:32:40 +0300 > > d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: > > - Original Message -From: d_ba...@012.net.ilDate: Wednesday, > > October 21, 2015 11:18 amSubject: Re: System Dorked -- Help

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 21/10/15 14:56, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:32:40 +0300 d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: - Original Message -From: d_ba...@012.net.ilDate: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:18 amSubject: Re: System Dorked -- Help!To: >debian-user@lists.debian.org> - Or

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread Ron
On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:32:40 +0300 d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: > - Original Message -From: d_ba...@012.net.ilDate: Wednesday, October > 21, 2015 11:18 amSubject: Re: System Dorked -- Help!To: > >debian-user@lists.debian.org> - Original Message -> From: > d_b

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread d_baron
- Original Message -From: d_ba...@012.net.ilDate: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:18 amSubject: Re: System Dorked -- Help!To: debian-user@lists.debian.org> - Original Message -> From: d_ba...@012.net.il> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:24 am> Subject: System Do

Re: System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread d_baron
- Original Message -From: d_ba...@012.net.ilDate: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:24 amSubject: System Dorked -- Help!To: debian-user@lists.debian.org> After being warned of impending failure of my oldie but goodie 80gig disk -- I had placed my root directory there because

System Dorked -- Help!

2015-10-21 Thread d_baron
After being warned of impending failure of my oldie but goodie 80gig disk -- I had placed my root directory there because the installation's partition was too small and did this successfully -- I moved the root directory to a partition on another disk, edited files, ran lilo, seemingly successfu