Re: Would discussion of improving sysv-init be on topic?

2014-10-16 Thread David L. Craig
On 14Oct16:1151-0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > It strikes me that there's actually very little that needs to be done. In > the short term, the world, including Debian, will continue to support > sysvinit scripts - if only because the BSDs aren't going anywhere, I expect > autotools will continue t

Re: Would discussion of improving sysv-init be on topic?

2014-10-16 Thread Miles Fidelman
Steve Litt wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:28:50 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: POINT OF CLARIFICATION: Nothing written below is nosh specific. It could be used with nosh, or upstart, or sysvinit, or any other PID1 that's *only* a PID1. So how about it, who wants to join me in neutering systemd on Deb

Re: Would discussion of improving sysv-init be on topic?

2014-10-16 Thread Steve Litt
bably every other distro? > With everything I've learned during the systemd fiasco, if I were to > choose Debian's sysv-init, it would be nosh or something very much > like it. And, as far as I know, it's ready to go, and our only > involvement would be building rep

Re: Would discussion of improving sysv-init be on topic?

2014-10-16 Thread Steve Litt
already exists: > > > > http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/sysvinit > > > > That would be a far better place to get involved. > > Would that be debian's sysv-init? With everything I've learned during the systemd fiasco, if I were to choose Debian's sysv-i

Re: Would discussion of improving sysv-init be on topic?

2014-10-16 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2014 16 Oct 07:54 -0500, Joel Rees wrote: >> Would that be debian's sysv-init? > > That link is from the sysvinit-core package's description in Sid's > Aptitude. Presumably it is the upstream pro

Re: Would discussion of improving sysv-init be on topic?

2014-10-16 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 16 Oct 07:54 -0500, Joel Rees wrote: > Would that be debian's sysv-init? That link is from the sysvinit-core package's description in Sid's Aptitude. Presumably it is the upstream project. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of al

Re: Would discussion of improving sysv-init be on topic?

2014-10-16 Thread Joel Rees
et enough mass to get a >> project started and get it (mostly) off-list. > > Perhaps you are not aware of the development project for sysvinit that > already exists: > > http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/sysvinit > > That would be a far better place to get involved. Would t

Re: Would discussion of improving sysv-init be on topic?

2014-10-16 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 15 Oct 19:39 -0500, Joel Rees wrote: > systemd's problems would best be discussed at the systemd project. (Modulo > the willingness of the devs over there to discuss them.) > > What I'm thinking is to talk about specific features to enable the sort of > "managing services" that systemd s

Would discussion of improving sysv-init be on topic?

2014-10-15 Thread Joel Rees
systemd's problems would best be discussed at the systemd project. (Modulo the willingness of the devs over there to discuss them.) What I'm thinking is to talk about specific features to enable the sort of "managing services" that systemd seems to be aimed at, and how to implement them, where exi

Re: SysV Init

2001-02-04 Thread Leonard Leblanc
symbolic links to operate properly (for being started and stopped anyway). I'm not positive about that though. Does someone wanna elaborate on this Leonard Leblanc - Original Message - From: Stephen Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 4:

Re: SysV Init

2001-02-03 Thread Jim
Hi, The scripts are stored in /etc/init.d Each runlevel has its own directory e.g. /etc/rc0.d, /etc/rc1.d etc. In the runlevel dirs there are a load of symlinks to the scripts in /etc/init.d. The format of the filename is: Sxx to run a script with the start argument when entering the

RE: SysV Init

2001-02-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 03-Feb-2001 Stephen Robertson wrote: > I'm fairly new to Debian and still learning the system. What is the > accepted method of configuring which services are stopped and started in > > each run level, and how can I add my own commands to the Init scripts. > RedHat provided a file called rc.l

SysV Init

2001-02-02 Thread Stephen Robertson
I'm fairly new to Debian and still learning the system. What is the accepted method of configuring which services are stopped and started in each run level, and how can I add my own commands to the Init scripts. RedHat provided a file called rc.local for adding user commands. Is there a similar

Re: file-rc vs. sysV init (was: enabling bootpc at startup)

1998-08-27 Thread Stephen J. Carpenter
ckage file for runlevel.conf and you will find it. > > Why is file-rc not the default, just out of curiosity. I found it > much more intuitive, and a bit easier and faster to maintain. The > default sysV init scripts took me a bit longer to figure out. Well...it is not the "tr

Re: file-rc vs. sysV init (was: enabling bootpc at startup)

1998-08-26 Thread Michael Stone
Quoting the lone gunman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Why is file-rc not the default, just out of curiosity. I found it > much more intuitive, and a bit easier and faster to maintain. The > default sysV init scripts took me a bit longer to figure out. First, the sysV mechanism is more co

file-rc vs. sysV init (was: enabling bootpc at startup)

1998-08-26 Thread the lone gunman
it much more intuitive, and a bit easier and faster to maintain. The default sysV init scripts took me a bit longer to figure out. I would install file-rc agian, but I have a worry. I noticed when updating/installing new packages with file-rc installed, I get a *LOT* of errors that are someth