Re: Is SWEN back?

2004-04-19 Thread hugo vanwoerkom
Marc Shapiro wrote: I hadn't seen any SWEN in months, so I slipped up and posted a few messages to the list using my regular account (instead of this HOTMAIL account set up only for posting to debian-user and receiving all of my SWEN). Yesterday, I received what looked like a SWEN e-mail.

Re: Is SWEN back?

2004-04-19 Thread Katipo
Marc Shapiro wrote: I hadn't seen any SWEN in months, so I slipped up and posted a few messages to the list using my regular account (instead of this HOTMAIL account set up only for posting to debian-user and receiving all of my SWEN). Yesterday, I received what looked like a SWEN e

Re: Is SWEN back?

2004-04-19 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 12:14:15PM -0400, Marc Shapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I hadn't seen any SWEN in months, Until I finally caved and activated my ISP's virus blocking/stripping solution (I'd rather just block the fsckers at SMTP time -- and *shock*, my ISP appears t

Is SWEN back?

2004-04-19 Thread Marc Shapiro
I hadn't seen any SWEN in months, so I slipped up and posted a few messages to the list using my regular account (instead of this HOTMAIL account set up only for posting to debian-user and receiving all of my SWEN). Yesterday, I received what looked like a SWEN e-mail. The subjec

Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Nano Nano
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 06:40:58AM +0100, Wilko Fokken wrote: > DENY<>^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > DENY=^Content-Type:.*text/html > DENY=^Subject:.subscribe > DENY=^Subject:.unsubscribe That looks like a remarkable sensible set of rules. What's your false positive/negative hit rate? It shou

Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Wilko Fokken
y to delete them > > right afterwards :-) > > mailfilter is good for filtering out swen and the like. I have set it to > delete all messages over 146888K on this email account (this is not my > main account, so I don't expect to receive large attachments here anyway). > My pr

Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 04:52:54PM +0100, Andreas Janssen wrote: > Thanks, but I am connected to the internet using an analog modem, so the > way for me to get rid of them is deleting them on the server. You're on a dialup ISP and they don't offer a s

Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Wayne Topa
ting them on the server. I really > don't want to download some MB of viruses every day only to delete them > right afterwards :-) > > best regards > Andreas Janssen If your downloading from a pop3 server take a look at mailfilter. It deletes mail at the server

Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Lou Losee wrote: > * Alphonse Ogulla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-01-19 08:01]: > > Got 200 plus mail bombs in my pop3 account this morning. Luckily I used Kmail > > and filtered (deleted) every incoming message of size greater than 40Kb. Just &

Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread duck
hem on the server. I really > don't want to download some MB of viruses every day only to delete them > right afterwards :-) mailfilter is good for filtering out swen and the like. I have set it to delete all messages over 146888K on this email account (this is not my main account,

Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Andreas Janssen
ery incoming message of size >> > greater than 40Kb. Just wondering, is swen back from holiday? How >> > you people managing? >> >> From my point of view, it looks like it never really went away. Over >> the last months, I get between 30 to 50 of this viruse

Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:18:09PM +0300, Alphonse Ogulla wrote: > Got 200 plus mail bombs in my pop3 account this morning. Do this to your mail server: http://ursine.ca/~baloo/clamd-exiscan.txt - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :'

Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:18:09 +0300, Alphonse Ogulla wrote: > Got 200 plus mail bombs in my pop3 account this morning. Luckily I used Kmail > and filtered (deleted) every incoming message of size greater than 40Kb. Just > wondering, is swen back from holiday? How you people managing?

Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread John Conover
Andreas Janssen writes: > > Alphonse Ogulla (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > > > Got 200 plus mail bombs in my pop3 account this morning. Luckily I > > used Kmail and filtered (deleted) every incoming message of size > > greater than 40Kb. Just wondering, i

Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Lou Losee
* Alphonse Ogulla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-01-19 08:01]: > Got 200 plus mail bombs in my pop3 account this morning. Luckily I used Kmail > and filtered (deleted) every incoming message of size greater than 40Kb. Just > wondering, is swen back from holiday? How you people mana

Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Alphonse Ogulla (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > Got 200 plus mail bombs in my pop3 account this morning. Luckily I > used Kmail and filtered (deleted) every incoming message of size > greater than 40Kb. Just wondering, is swen back from holiday? How you > people managing?

Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Alphonse Ogulla
Got 200 plus mail bombs in my pop3 account this morning. Luckily I used Kmail and filtered (deleted) every incoming message of size greater than 40Kb. Just wondering, is swen back from holiday? How you people managing? -- Alphonse Ogulla Nairobi, Kenya -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-14 Thread Steve Lamb
Kevin Mark wrote: more viruses, more cpu time, more MONEY. Its always money in the end. Well, not always money. Money is the final factor, to be sure, but I can say with a resonable level of assurance that there are other factors. Factors such as space and power. Granted one can get more

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-14 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 12:53:20PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > > Then that is my mistake; I offer my apology to you and to Ross. I > found out about it several days ago during a normal routine check of > services offered on earthlink's web site, and immediately turned it on, I did the same. >

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-14 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 23:58:34 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 06:31:55PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > >> - if you don't read communications from earthlink, then no wonder you >> don't know what's going on >> > I did check my backed up folder and found the last 8 months of earthl

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-13 Thread Kevin Mark
ipeline) customer, the virus option is very recent and the spam option is somewhat recent. I recall reading the spam options about a year ago and noticed nothing about virus checking. KMS said the virus was very recent also. I am not 100% sure, but if I called Earthlink, I would think it was added w

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-13 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:56:48 -0800, Ross Boylan wrote: > > Although filtering should "obviously" be done by service providers, it > seems they have a lot of trouble getting it right. Mail to me goes > through two service providers (one of them is just a forwarder, and I > only recently found out

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-12 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 08:56:48PM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote: > On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 04:15:45PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > ... > > > > Earthlink have implemented virus and spam filtering within the past > > month or so, early November, if time serves. > Yea! > headers. They may have resi

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-12 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 08:56:48PM -0800, Ross Boylan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 04:15:45PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > ... > > > > Earthlink have implemented virus and spam filtering within the past > > month or so, early November, if time serves. > > That explains

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-11 Thread Ross Boylan
e is no option for user > training of filters. > > Upshot: I've not enabled any of the filtering. I want to know what is > blocked. I want blocking at SMTP level. And I want context-sensitive > spam filters (e.g.: Bayesian filters). I can apply this through my own > r

Spam, email, encrypted transit, harvesting (was Re: Earthlink and Swen)

2003-12-09 Thread Karsten M. Self
ount/help/virusblocker/ > > > > > > > Hi KMS, > > > Funny, I am a subscriber to this ISP and I didn't notice any email > > > announcements (but then I ususally just delete the isp mail site unseen). > > > I'm sure > > > this recent

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-09 Thread Kevin Mark
> > announcements (but then I ususally just delete the isp mail site unseen). > > I'm sure > > this recent additions was because I (and i'm sure others) were really > > pissed at them during the swen 'flash flood' and sent quite a few > > emails.

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-08 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Kevin Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031208 03:17]: > I guess this is as 'responsive' as they get. Now if they only > get of their duff and get encrypted pop or the like!!! This would > decrease my spam further! By "encrypted pop" do you mean pop3/ssl? If so, how do you expect would this decrease th

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-08 Thread Karsten M. Self
t additions was because I (and i'm sure others) were really > pissed at them during the swen 'flash flood' and sent quite a few > emails. I guess this is as 'responsive' as they get. Now if they only > get of their duff and get encrypted pop or the like!!! This woul

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-08 Thread Kevin Mark
any email announcements (but then I ususally just delete the isp mail site unseen). I'm sure this recent additions was because I (and i'm sure others) were really pissed at them during the swen 'flash flood' and sent quite a few emails. I guess this is as 'responsive&#x

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-08 Thread Karsten M. Self
using connections attempts which are generally attacks by Windoze worms. > > I had a long talk with earthlink a month or two ago in which they told > me they were not filtering out swen (and they certainly weren't; I got > a ton). Soon after that, I did see some swen-like stuff in th

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-06 Thread Karsten M. Self
using connections attempts which are generally attacks by Windoze worms. > > I had a long talk with earthlink a month or two ago in which they told > me they were not filtering out swen (and they certainly weren't; I got > a ton). Soon after that, I did see some swen-like stuff in th

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-06 Thread Paul Morgan
the reason I'm surprised is based on my own experience with > earthlink, including their explicit statements that they weren't > blocking Swen. > > What the mail you attached below is supposed to demonstrate, I don't > know. You don't provide any context with whic

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-06 Thread Ross Boylan
ting like 10 Svens per day). I do see, from time to time, Apache > >> refusing connections attempts which are generally attacks by Windoze worms. > > > > I had a long talk with earthlink a month or two ago in which they told > > me they were not filtering out swen (and

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-05 Thread Paul Morgan
are generally attacks by Windoze worms. > > I had a long talk with earthlink a month or two ago in which they told > me they were not filtering out swen (and they certainly weren't; I got > a ton). Soon after that, I did see some swen-like stuff in their spam > filter for my a

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-05 Thread kmark+debian-user
mpts which are generally attacks by Windoze worms. > > I had a long talk with earthlink a month or two ago in which they told > me they were not filtering out swen (and they certainly weren't; I got > a ton). Soon after that, I did see some swen-like stuff in their spam > filte

Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-05 Thread Ross Boylan
o in which they told me they were not filtering out swen (and they certainly weren't; I got a ton). Soon after that, I did see some swen-like stuff in their spam filter for my account (but I also saw plenty still coming at me). What's your basis for saying they are filtering out swen, rat

Swen, again (was Re: spam microsoft)

2003-11-26 Thread Karsten M. Self
it > possible to write a script to automate this work ? > (perhaps perl is my friend ?) > > Thanks in advance for any help and advises. 140k executable attachments? That's the Swen viral mail: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[EMAIL PROTECTED

Updated fqdn2domain -- Re: Swen reporting scripts

2003-11-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 07:54:25PM +, Pigeon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 06:03:06AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > I've prepared a couple of scripts which I'm using to report swen headers > > and body to originating ISPs. > > > >

Re: Swen reporting scripts

2003-11-15 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 06:03:06AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > I've prepared a couple of scripts which I'm using to report swen headers > and body to originating ISPs. > > - Scripts work on directory-based mail folders (Maildir, MH, etc.). > *NOT* mbox. Sorry.

Swen reporting scripts

2003-11-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
I've prepared a couple of scripts which I'm using to report swen headers and body to originating ISPs. I don't know if it's a result of this or not, but my received Swen has fallen of significantly Friday 14 Nov. compared with the 24 hours preceding. Do *not* trust the script

Re: Swen on the come back trail.

2003-11-13 Thread Joerg Johannes
Am Do, den 13.11.2003 schrieb David Palmer. um 13:06: > Is it my imagination, or is it really happening? At least the number of Swens is increasing again... joerg -- Gib GATES keine Chance! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAI

Swen on the come back trail.

2003-11-13 Thread David Palmer.
Is it my imagination, or is it really happening? Seem to be new headers involved, too. The rumoured new one should be easy to deal with, headers are obvious, called mimail with an attachment. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble

Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-30 Thread Pigeon
for many days, the infected machines > >which have your email address in their lists of targets gradually get > >disinfected, and your incoming swen gradually goes to zero. But, if you > >post, you run the > >risk of a new wave of swen. > > That is why all of my p

Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-30 Thread Marc Shapiro
ts gradually get disinfected, and your incoming swen gradually goes to zero. But, if you post, you run the risk of a new wave of swen. That is why all of my posting is now done through this hotmail account, which I use for nothing else. So far, I have received no spam of any sort through it. It is

Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-30 Thread Fraser Campbell
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 16:23, Marc Shapiro wrote: > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This > is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. Could we > finally be seein the end of this mess? I was getting 200-300 Swen's

Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-30 Thread Mike Dresser
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Marc Shapiro wrote: > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This > is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. Could we > finally be seein the end of this mess? 135 in 12 hours here, and it'll probably ju

Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-30 Thread r . s . robinson
is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. Could we > finally be seein the end of this mess? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-29 Thread Ron Jr
> >This > is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. > >Could we > finally be seein the end of this mess? > > No, but perhaps Hotmail took heed of suggestions to reject viruses at > >SMTP time. > > If so, then that gives us ONE good t

Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-29 Thread Alvin Oga
in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. Could we > > > finally be seein the end of this mess? nope ... different people get different amts of junk i was getting hundreds per day ... but now its just one-z two-z per hour and i REJECT those incoming junk ... hopefully bouncing the junk

Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-29 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 07:47:09PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > It is possible that it has > just stopped gathering email addresses and is just propogating around > to emails that have been collected in the past. > Else the machines have been disinfected or mail servers are bl

Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Marc Shapiro wrote: I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. Could we finally be seein the end of this mess? Nope. dmiyu:/var/log/exim4# grep malware mainlog | wc -l 90 90 so far today

Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-29 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:23:51 -0500, "Marc Shapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN

Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-29 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 at 21:23 GMT, Marc Shapiro penned: > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. > This is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. > Could we finally be seein the end of this mess? > > -- Marc Shapiro > E

Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-29 Thread Ron Jr
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 18:39, Paul E Condon wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:23:51PM -0500, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This > > is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. Could we >

Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-29 Thread Marc Shapiro
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:46:31 -0800 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:23:51PM -0500, Marc Shapiro wrote: > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This > is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN

Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-29 Thread Ken Irving
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 05:39:05PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:23:51PM -0500, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This > > is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no

Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:23:51PM -0500, Marc Shapiro wrote: > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This > is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. Could we > finally be seein the end of this mess? > I'm getting one

Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:23:51PM -0500, Marc Shapiro wrote: > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This > is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. Could we > finally be seein t

Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:23:51 -0500, "Marc Shapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. > This is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. > Could

Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-29 Thread Marc Shapiro
I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. Could we finally be seein the end of this mess? -- Marc Shapiro _ Concerned that messages

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-28 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 08:08:22PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 01:25:38PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > Even if exim spoke SSL to the smarthost, the email would still be > > plaintext between there and the originator. At least, I think that's > > how it works. If yo

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-28 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 05:31 GMT, Ron Johnson penned: >> > >> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 01:25:38PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> Sure, but everyone has their own limit when it comes to privacy. >> Maybe I don't want you to know that I have been sending messages to >> the "hot gerbil sex" mail

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 22:38, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 04:08 GMT, Paul Johnson penned: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 01:25:38PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > >> Even if exim spoke SSL to the smarthost, the email would

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-27 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 04:08 GMT, Paul Johnson penned: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 01:25:38PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> Even if exim spoke SSL to the smarthost, the email would still be >> plaintext between there and the originator. At leas

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-27 Thread Tom
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 08:08:22PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > So they know where it came from and is going to. Whoop-de-doo... Actually that's my philosophy when it comes to all privacy: fuck it. Come look. If it creeps you out, that's on you. It's a remarkably effective stance to take. --

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-27 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 01:25:38PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > Even if exim spoke SSL to the smarthost, the email would still be > plaintext between there and the originator. At least, I think that's > how it works. If you really want to hide t

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-27 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 at 17:59 GMT, Tom penned: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 09:16:55AM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote: >> You're using a plaintext pop password on the wire and you're worried >> about some file in your home directory? > > I use the SSL option in my .fetchmailrc, so I hope my pwd and more >

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-27 Thread David Palmer.
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 04:05:58 -0500 (EST) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, David Palmer. wrote: > > > > > -- > > > David Jardine > > > > > > The way I see it is that with all the separate componentry available > > with Debian, you can configure for any eventuality accordin

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-27 Thread Tom
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 09:16:55AM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote: > You're using a plaintext pop password on the wire and you're worried > about some file in your home directory? I use the SSL option in my .fetchmailrc, so I hope my pwd and more importantly email bodies come over the cable modem encr

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-27 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Monique Y. Herman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031026 12:10]: > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 14:11 GMT, Wayne Topa penned: > > > > If you add set pop_host=pop.gmx.net, set pop_user=xxx and set > > pop_pass= to your .muttrc then mutt -f pop:// will connect > > without typeing so much. :-) > > > >

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 21:42, Robert Storey wrote: > > > But even for non-root users of the same system, all they'd have to > > > do is do 'cat ~/.muttrc', unless .muttrc is only owner- > > > readable(like .fetchmailrc). > > > > > > > Sure, but that can be fixed, as you say, with permissions chan

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-27 Thread kmark+debian
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, David Palmer. wrote: > > -- > > David Jardine > > > The way I see it is that with all the separate componentry available > with Debian, you can configure for any eventuality according to the > individual need, whether that be for high volumn or otherwise. Standard > config

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread Robert Storey
> > But even for non-root users of the same system, all they'd have to > > do is do 'cat ~/.muttrc', unless .muttrc is only owner- > > readable(like .fetchmailrc). > > > > Sure, but that can be fixed, as you say, with permissions changes. > You can't fix the fact that superusers can read your

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread David Jardine
x27;t work because > > it has an @ inside). pop.gmx.net is your providers pop server. > > > > Then you are asked for your password and see the contents of your mailbox. > > Use arrow keys to move up and down, press D to delete a message. Q exits > > mutt, it asks you to

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread Robert Storey
Try Animail. I don't see it on the list of Debian packages, but you can download it from Sourceforge as a .deb binary or source tarball. It is much easier to use than Fetchmail, and it can delete spam from the mail server without having to download. Another option (which I haven't tried yet) is Ma

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 05:41:12PM +0100, David Jardine wrote: > One problem I had with it is that it gave the message lengths as > zero, which didn't aid swen-spotting. I do get the message lengths so this may be a problem with how mutt interfaces with your particular pop server. It

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread Robert Storey
Try Animail. I don't see it on the list of Debian packages, but you can download it from Sourceforge as a .deb binary or source tarball. It is much easier to use than Fetchmail, and it can delete spam from the mail server without having to download. Another option (which I haven't tried yet) is Ma

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 23:48 GMT, Ron Johnson penned: > On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 13:31, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 14:11 GMT, Wayne Topa penned: >> > >> > If you add set pop_host=pop.gmx.net, set pop_user=xxx and set >> > pop_pass= to your .muttrc then mutt -f pop:/

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread Wayne Topa
Monique Y. Herman([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > Of course, your password will then be in plain-text in a file. If you > are the only person with root access, this probably isn't a big deal > until your box gets hacked, but this sort of thing always gives me the > willies. You

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread Brian Potkin
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 09:11:44AM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote: > If you add set pop_host=pop.gmx.net, set pop_user=xxx and set pop_pass= > to your .muttrc then mutt -f pop:// > will connect without typeing so much. :-) Additionally, within a running mutt, you could choose to activate a

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 14:11 GMT, Wayne Topa penned: > > If you add set pop_host=pop.gmx.net, set pop_user=xxx and set > pop_pass= to your .muttrc then mutt -f pop:// will connect > without typeing so much. :-) > > This works in version 1.5.4-1 (testing) as well > > Isn't linux

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread Wayne Topa
a message. Q exits > mutt, it asks you to delete the marked ("D") messages. Just press enter > and you are done. > > I do have a dial-up connection too, so this is my way to get rid of SWEN... If you add set pop_host=pop.gmx.net, set pop_user=xxx and set pop_pass= to yo

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 13:31, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 14:11 GMT, Wayne Topa penned: > > > > If you add set pop_host=pop.gmx.net, set pop_user=xxx and set > > pop_pass= to your .muttrc then mutt -f pop:// will connect > > without typeing so much. :-) > > > > T

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread Bijan Soleymani
"Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 14:11 GMT, Wayne Topa penned: >> >> If you add set pop_host=pop.gmx.net, set pop_user=xxx and set >> pop_pass= to your .muttrc then mutt -f pop:// will connect >> without typeing so much. :-) >> >> This works i

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 21:41 GMT, Bijan Soleymani penned: > "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 14:11 GMT, Wayne Topa penned: >>> >>> If you add set pop_host=pop.gmx.net, set pop_user=xxx and set >>> pop_pass= to your .muttrc then mutt -f pop://

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 21:29 GMT, Wayne Topa penned: > Monique Y. Herman([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: >> >> Of course, your password will then be in plain-text in a file. If >> you are the only person with root access, this probably isn't a big >> deal until your box gets hacked,

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread David Palmer.
r > > > providers pop server. > > > > > > Then you are asked for your password and see the contents of your > > > mailbox. Use arrow keys to move up and down, press D to delete a > > > message. Q exits mutt, it asks you to delete the marked ("D"

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ere xxx is my customer number from GMX (you can use both > > e-Mail address and customer number as login but I guess E-mail won't > > work because it has an @ inside). pop.gmx.net is your providers pop > > server. > > > > Then you are asked for your password and see

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread Ron Johnson
ow keys to move up and down, press D to delete a message. Q exits > mutt, it asks you to delete the marked ("D") messages. Just press enter > and you are done. > > I do have a dial-up connection too, so this is my way to get rid of SWEN... For a high-volume account, this

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread David Jardine
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 11:33:30PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 10:28:26PM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 02:39:43AM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:14:38AM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > > > > It is beyond my capability (but only slig

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-26 Thread Andre Kalus
is your providers pop server. Then you are asked for your password and see the contents of your mailbox. Use arrow keys to move up and down, press D to delete a message. Q exits mutt, it asks you to delete the marked ("D") messages. Just press enter and you are done. I do have a dial-up con

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-25 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 10:28:26PM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 02:39:43AM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:14:38AM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > > > It is beyond my capability (but only slightly, I feel, and it > > > should be very easy for lots of peop

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-25 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 10:36:53PM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > > And is it only my ISPs getting their acts together or is the flow > of swens starting to dry up? > I've been killing swen at my ISP with mailfilter every hour for the past 100 hrs (>4d). I get about 6/hr. I

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-25 Thread David Jardine
ages >> piling up and guessed, from the length, that they were all swen, >> although it is theoretically possible that I deleted something that >> was not swen. >> > Ron's script which he sent to me also is a good one and works fast. But > if there

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-25 Thread David Jardine
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 02:39:43AM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:14:38AM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > > It is beyond my capability (but only slightly, I feel, and it > > should be very easy for lots of people here) to produce a sort of > > interactive fetchmail that reads the

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-25 Thread David Jardine
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 12:54:05AM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote: > On (25/10/03 01:14), David Jardine wrote: > > ... > > ... > > I've read the fetchmail documentation and concluded that fetchmail > > will never delete anything without consulting exim or whatever. > > I've tried to follow all the

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-25 Thread David Jardine
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:20:56AM +0100, Brian Potkin wrote: > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:14:38AM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > > > It is beyond my capability (but only slightly, I feel, and it > > should be very easy for lots of people here) to produce a sort of > > interactive fetchmail that

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-25 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:14:38AM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > > Ron Johnson kindly sent me a Python script that deleted all the > large files from the server. All right, I had seen these messages > piling up and guessed, from the length, that they were all swen, &

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-25 Thread Clive Menzies
us .mailfilterrc files post in the last few weeks. Some > > filter on size. I use a combination of Subject, From and To headers to > > filter most of it out. Let me know if you want my rc file. > > The problem with mailfilter, regarding swen, is that mailfilter only > loots at

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