Colin Marquardt wrote:
> Dale Scheetz´ book which can also be had online
> (lost the bookmark, maybe www.linuxpress.com is a starting point), maybe
> also http://www.debian.org/%7Ejoey/linx.html
Packaged as tdlug (The Debian Linux User's Guide) in potato.
--
Peter Galbr
the book has been published through New Riders and I have seen it in 1 local
bookstore. The book is GPLed, has a single CD distro and sells for $24.95
with a portion of that going to FSF.
>> "Colin" == Colin Marquardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Colin> Havoc Pennington´s Debian Tutorial (would be good to have it as
Colin> a package, is there already one?),
The tutorial has been extended by Ossama Othen and John Goertzen
(IIRC), and will be published as a book. As the tutorial is G
* Michael Stenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > b) having a table of contents and index ( <- index might be hard )
>> ^^
>>
>> Not too much if the base is SGML or (La)TeX.
> That makes me happy. It will probably be in debiandoc-
>> "Michael" == Michael Stenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Michael> What do you mean by ASCII links? You just mean references?
Michael> I don't mind providing and ASCII version, but I think that
Michael> for ease of navigation, well designed HTML (as a final
Michael> version) would be best.
If
On Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 08:24:06PM +0200, Colin Marquardt wrote:
> * Michael Stenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > a) using html (this would help us -- we'd just mirror each other)
>
> We still need an ASCII document that tells newbies about lynx or
> Netscape in that case, IMO.
Agreed.
>
Michael Stenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> What do you think about:
>
> a) using html (this would help us -- we'd just mirror each other)
>
> b) having a table of contents and index ( <- index might be hard )
>
What about using/modifying/enhancing dwww -- I think it would be good
to t
Subject:
R
Date:
Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:28:23 +1000
From:
Doug Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
virtanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References:
1
shudder shudder !
God save us from "experts" who think EVERYTH
* Michael Stenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 09:32:34AM +1000, Doug Young wrote:
>> Will someone PLEASE get the message that the present
>> format of MAN, HOWTO, and other stuff is NOT intelligible
>> to the majority of newbies, and that is why there are so many
>> post
AIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Debian-User List ;
>
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 2:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines (ITP)
>
>
> > On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 03:58:22PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote:
> > > If a
Subject: Re[2]: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines
Date: Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 12:47:35AM -0400
In reply to:Bob Bernstein
Quoting Bob Bernstein([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> No. What is annoying is that despite the fact that several times in this
> thread the point has been mad
On 22-Jul-99 Wayne Topa wrote:
> Quoting Martin Bialasinski([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>> this is my proposal for a posting, it got longer than intended, but it
>> is a good one, I believe (corrections welcomed).
> Yes! A much improved one at that. Thanks Martin, I hereby withdraw my
> proposal in fa
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Wayne Topa wrote:
> > "If you are a new user to Linux, you´ll want to read the New-User
> > Guide. Do a `more /usr/share/doc/new-user-guide.txt'."
> >
> > This new-user-guide.txt would be a required package, and consist of
> > just a few pointers to the most important informa
Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The crys for help with no information, are really annoying.
No. What is annoying is that despite the fact that several times in this
thread the point has been made that quoting a message in full is wrong, you
continue to do it.
--
Bob Bernstein
"Martin Bialasinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Martin> Did you check the right spots for help?
9-) Did he ever get back to you?
My two cents, more aimed at the hyper-newbie, still in shock from being
confronted with a blank screen, a blinking cursor, and of all things (most
likely) one of tho
On Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 01:09:26AM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
>
> It is too long for a weekly posting, but it is a good welcome mail one
> should get on subscription. And it can be made available on the net
> (and in a newbie-doc package).
I noticed that the linux-kernel list does that...
Subject: Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines
Date: Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 01:09:26AM +0200
In reply to:Martin Bialasinski
Quoting Martin Bialasinski([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> Hi,
>
> this is my proposal for a posting, it got longer than intended, but it
> i
>> "Martin" == Martin Bialasinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Martin> Did you check the right spots for help?
[...]
Forgot about a thing for this part.
- Check the Bug Tracking System
Maybe the problem you encounter is a known bug?
http://bugs.debian.org/ will show you all reported bugs
for th
Subject: Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines
Date: Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 10:30:49PM +0200
In reply to:Martin Bialasinski
Quoting Martin Bialasinski([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> >> "Wayne" == Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Wayne>
Hi,
this is my proposal for a posting, it got longer than intended, but it
is a good one, I believe (corrections welcomed).
It is too long for a weekly posting, but it is a good welcome mail one
should get on subscription. And it can be made available on the net
(and in a newbie-doc package).
ial by experts !!!
- Original Message -
From: Michael Stenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Patrick Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Debian-User List ;
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines (ITP)
> On
>> "Wayne" == Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Wayne> Very good idea, Colin. That would be _much_ better than a
Wayne> weekly posting to the list! We would have to find a Maintainer
Wayne> to package it, of course.
It can be an addition, a weekly post is good nevertheless. I will mail
my
Subject: Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines (ITP)
Date: Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 12:10:09PM -0400
In reply to:Michael Stenner
Quoting Michael Stenner([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 03:58:22PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote:
> > If anyone has a few links that t
Subject: Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines
Date: Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 12:07:16PM -0500
In reply to:John Foster
Quoting John Foster([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Has anyone ever set up something like the AstaLaVista search engine for
> debian users. For those of you w
* Michael Stenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[new-user-guide]
> I'd definitely be willing to maintain such a thing. It would require
> more input from others than the standard package, though, so I think
> the idea of a dedicated web page maintainer and a dedicated package
> maintainer would pro
* Patrick Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[new-user-guide]
> If anyone has a few links that they think every newbie should have read,
> please let me know and while I may not be able to package them, I'll
> definitesly host them.
Actually, I thought of concentrating on ressources that are availa
Has anyone ever set up something like the AstaLaVista search engine for
debian users. For those of you who are unfamiliar with this, it is the
real hackers search engine, and wherever it is hosted, all queries to it
search only registered hacking sites. I know its mostly used for not to
legal purpo
On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 03:58:22PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote:
> If anyone has a few links that they think every newbie should have read,
> please let me know and while I may not be able to package them, I'll
> definitesly host them.
I'd definitely be willing to maintain such a thing. It would req
, 1999 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines
>
> Subject: Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines
> Date: Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 10:18:17PM +0200
>
> In reply to:Colin Marquardt
>
> Quoting Colin Marquardt([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > * Stephan Engelke <[EMA
Subject: Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines
Date: Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 10:18:17PM +0200
In reply to:Colin Marquardt
Quoting Colin Marquardt([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> * Stephan Engelke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > the most common problem I have encounter
>
> 1.2 Check the mail archives. As this is a newbie question, it most
>likely has been asked/answered before. This applies to MOST
> questions.
Also, try searching Dejanews at http://www.deja.com. This is an invaluable
resource.
> 1.3 Have you tried man program nam
On Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 02:00:30PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Mark Brown writes:
> > Personally, I always found FAQ-O-Matics slow and hard to use, but they
> > are a good way of making it easy to keep a FAQ maintained.
> I say just the opposite: easy to use but insanely difficult to maintain.
I
* Stephan Engelke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> the most common problem I have encountered when suggesting Linux as an
> OS to other people is, that even though there is a wealth of docs out
> there, new users don't know where to look for them. Newbies need to be told
Indeed. Going a slight bit
Mark Brown writes:
> Personally, I always found FAQ-O-Matics slow and hard to use, but they
> are a good way of making it easy to keep a FAQ maintained.
I say just the opposite: easy to use but insanely difficult to maintain.
--
John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain.
[EM
On 20-Jul-99, you wrote:
Hi,
I'm thinking of all the various FAQ docs/manuals/guides that can be reached
from the left hand frame at www.debian.org
Bye
LeeE
>
> What online docs? I am not sure which you mean; if you
> give me a url or better description, I will see if they are available
>
> Good Idea!
> Regards
> Vitux
>
> Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Carl Mummert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt:20. juli 1999 03:57
> Til: debian-user
> Cc: recipient list not shown
> E
...
I'm looking forward to the day that I can start helping out.
Best Regards
Vitux
Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Wayne Topa [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt:20. juli 1999 00:30
> Til: debian-user
> Cc: re
On Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 09:25:26AM +0200, Stephan Engelke wrote:
> There are some tools out there to automatically maintain a FAQ. Maybe
> something like the FAQ-O-Matic could be helpful, does anyone have
> experiences with such a system?
There is a Debian FAQ-O-Matic. It was unmaintained for a
>> "Stephan" == Stephan Engelke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Stephan> + online version of the (Debian-specific) FAQ. There are
Stephan> some tools out there to automatically maintain a FAQ. Maybe
Stephan> something like the FAQ-O-Matic could be helpful, does anyone
Stephan> have experiences with s
Some simple english explanation of that "Synopsis" stuff found in most
of the HOWTO's wouldn't go astray either !!!
--- Begin Message ---
Stephan Engelke wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 09:57:26PM -0400, Carl Mummert wrote:
>
> > One issue: there is already a lot of document
This idea should be very wellcome, since the larger portion of Linux
newbies has never seen a working Unix. (I myself was lucky enough to work
on AIX for 4 years as a user before I atempted my first Linux install..) A
10 pages-or so description of the most important commands and tools could
ease th
Stephan Engelke wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 09:57:26PM -0400, Carl Mummert wrote:
>
> > One issue: there is already a lot of documentation out there. ( I will
> > not vouch for its quality or lack thereof, but volume is something that it
> > does not lack). Every package s
Addendum to Wayne's suggestion...
There are articles and how-tos that are often hard to find. For example,
everyone setting up a small mail server should first read
http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue43/stumpel.html. I will keep a draft
message as a template and send it wherever appropriate and ho
-
From: Stephan Engelke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines
> Hi folks,
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 09:57:26PM -0400, Carl Mummert wrote:
>
> > One issue: there is already a lot of
Hi folks,
On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 09:57:26PM -0400, Carl Mummert wrote:
> One issue: there is already a lot of documentation out there. ( I will
> not vouch for its quality or lack thereof, but volume is something that it
> does not lack). Every package should have a manpage, and often there i
On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 02:15:13PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
>
> Debian-user
>
> I was looking in my mail dir today and noticed my debian-user folder
> exceeds 4 Meg for this month. In reviewing the question and answers
> for the last few days, it seems like there is a lot of wasted
> bandwidt
>> > I was looking in my mail dir today and noticed my debian-user folder
>> > exceeds 4 Meg for this month. In reviewing the question and answers
>> > for the last few days, it seems like there is a lot of wasted
>> > bandwidth.
>> I like the idea of less time being wasted on repeating the sa
Subject: Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines
Date: Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 10:08:38PM +0100
In reply to:Patrick Kirk
Quoting Patrick Kirk([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Hi Wayne,
>
> I like the idea of less time being wasted on repeating the same answers
> again and again.
5
Subject: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines
>
> Debian-user
>
> I was looking in my mail dir today and noticed my debian-user folder
> exceeds 4 Meg for this month. In reviewing the question and answers
> for the last few days, it seems like there is a lot of wasted
>
>
> I was looking in my mail dir today and noticed my debian-user folder
>exceeds 4 Meg for this month. In reviewing the question and answers
>for the last few days, it seems like there is a lot of wasted
>bandwidth.
How about the once-a-week FAQ that gets posted to high-use newsgroups?
These
Debian-user
I was looking in my mail dir today and noticed my debian-user folder
exceeds 4 Meg for this month. In reviewing the question and answers
for the last few days, it seems like there is a lot of wasted
bandwidth.
I wondered if there were Guide Lines set up for asking for answers
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