On Tuesday, 30-07-2024 at 02:21 Jan Krapivin wrote:
> There is Debian community in Discord
>
> https://discord.gg/debian
>
> https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=803217&hilit=discord#p803217
>
> пн, 29 июл. 2024 г. в 19:15, :
>
> > Michel Verdier wrote:
> > > On 2024-07-28, Michael Gra
Hi,
(I am subscribed to the list, but a CC would be appreciated :) )
On 7/28/24 16:53, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote:
>> Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join it...
>
> Sadly, the Debian project is not will
There is Debian community in Discord
https://discord.gg/debian
https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=803217&hilit=discord#p803217
пн, 29 июл. 2024 г. в 19:15, :
> Michel Verdier wrote:
> > On 2024-07-28, Michael Grant wrote:
> >
> > +1 to all you say.
> >
> > > Maybe one of you younger fol
Michel Verdier wrote:
> On 2024-07-28, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> +1 to all you say.
>
> > Maybe one of you younger folks can teach me how one deals with
> > keeping up with a forum like that.
>
> Once upon a time there was usenet. After a while there was a
> mail-to-news gateway. It ease a lot
On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 06:24:35 +0200
wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 08:53:18PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote:
> > > Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to
> > > join it...
> >
> > Sadly, the Debi
Michel Verdier wrote:
> On 2024-07-28, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> +1 to all you say.
>
> > Maybe one of you younger folks can teach me how one deals with keeping
> > up with a forum like that.
>
> Once upon a time there was usenet. After a while there was a mail-to-news
> gateway. It ease a lot c
On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:44:03 -0400
Jeffrey Walton wrote:
Hello Jeffrey,
>don't allow search engines to crawl their sites.
I hadn't even considered that.
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Hi,
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 02:06:09AM +, Walt E wrote:
> In some companies they block web traffic to those big forums like reddit.
> but mail is always possible to access.
Reality check: in a thread about the best way to help end users in
2024, someone suggests that email mailing lists are t
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 1:53 AM Brad Rogers wrote:
>
> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:04:30 -0500
> Nate Bargmann wrote:
>
> Hello Nate,
>
> >Discourse and Discord are two different technologies, AIUI
>
> Discourse also does this;
>
> Unfortunately, your browser is unsupported. Please switch to a support
On 2024-07-28, Michael Grant wrote:
+1 to all you say.
> Maybe one of you younger folks can teach me how one deals with keeping
> up with a forum like that.
Once upon a time there was usenet. After a while there was a mail-to-news
gateway. It ease a lot coping with this change of medium. If the
On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:04:30 -0500
Nate Bargmann wrote:
Hello Nate,
>Discourse and Discord are two different technologies, AIUI
Discourse also does this;
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Whilst it's not i
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 08:53:18PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote:
> > Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join it...
>
> Sadly, the Debian project is not willing to move with the times and
> bless a moder
July 29, 2024 at 9:09 AM, "Patrick Wiseman" wrote:
> >
>
> I mostly lurk here but I like this forum/format and hope Debian sticks with
>
> it. IMO Discord pretty much sucks. There's a r/debian subreddit which looks
>
> quite active and I've found other subreddits helpful.
>
> Patrick
>
In s
* On 2024 28 Jul 20:11 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> I mostly lurk here but I like this forum/format and hope Debian sticks with
> it. IMO Discord pretty much sucks. There's a r/debian subreddit which looks
> quite active and I've found other subreddits helpful.
Discourse and Discord are two dif
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 09:09:39PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> I like this forum/format
Not wanting to try to convince people on a mailing list to not be on
a mailing list, so keeping this brief, but…
> IMO Discord pretty much sucks.
Discourse is not Discord. They are completely differe
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:32:58PM -0400, Michael Grant wrote:
> I never read web forums, I only really search for things in a
> search engine and then end up on a forum with possible answers.
The fact is that millions of tech questions are asked and answered
on Stack-like sites, probably mor
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 08:53:18PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote:
> > Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join it...
>
> Sadly, the Debian project is not willing to move with the times and
> bless a moder
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote:
> Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join it...
Sadly, the Debian project is not willing to move with the times and
bless a modern web support community such as Discourse (a Stack
Overflow or AskUbuntu-l
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 19:08:58 +, MailGuard01 wrote:
> Is it still reasonable to add my experience to existing bug report,
> or should I submit a new one instead?
Adding to an existing bug report is a good thing, especially if you can
bring new insights, new examples, etc.
On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 18:15:21 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
Ian Molton wrote:
Hello Ian,
>Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join
Don't know. Never considered switching.
From the web forums I have used, I've ascertained that they offer
nothing that can't be done on a mailing
On Friday, July 26th, 2024 at PM 10:42, David Wright
wrote:
> There is a bug report #960809, which seems related, and
> might be worth adding your experience to, if you think so.
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=960809
>
Thank you for letting me know about this. I also n
Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join
it...
On 2024-07-28, Ian Molton wrote:
> https://lists.debian.org/stats/debian-user.png
>
> An alarming decline, with a multitude of reasons.
>
> But lack of community will be the one that ends that graph. Be in no doubt.
Members remains around 3000 so I don't see a decline for this.
Messages decline b
On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 09:35:22 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
Ian Molton wrote:
Hello Ian,
>An alarming decline, with a multitude of reasons.
Same for most MLs; People think web forums are better.
Passive/aggressive messages don't help, either.
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Hi,
As I said - the mailing list stats. Public record.
Heres a picture.
https://lists.debian.org/stats/debian-user.png
An alarming decline, with a multitude of reasons.
But lack of community will be the one that ends that graph. Be in no
doubt.
On 2024-07-26, Ian Molton wrote:
> Michael, that was not a personal attack. I am in no doubt that you personally
> try to help.
And *was helped*. So I am not alone :)
> The statistics for this list, however, are public record. And they are indeed
> of concern.
Can you give the statistics which
On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 23:12 +0100, Ian Molton wrote:
> Michael, that was not a personal attack. I am in no doubt that you
> personally try to help.
>
> The statistics for this list, however, are public record. And they
> are
> indeed of concern.
>
> Like so many open source projects, Debian is
Michael, that was not a personal attack. I am in no doubt that you
personally try to help.
The statistics for this list, however, are public record. And they are
indeed of concern.
Like so many open source projects, Debian is clearly showing a loss of
community, and whilst it continues to be
On Wed 24 Jul 2024 at 14:29:34 (+), MailGuard01 wrote:
> I am trying to complete the network configuration on Debian 12 using the
> default
> installed `ifupdown` package. I have noticed some confusing behavior with
> `ifupdown` while following the manual pages.
>
> Specifically, when I place
On 2024-07-26, Ian Molton wrote:
> The attitude these days seems to be that 'if its not in bugzilla, no one
> cares'
>
> Seems like the Debian project is forgetting that it is a social endeavour, not
> a (increasingly small) handful of Devs vanity project...
I largely disagree with that. I was he
Hi.
Sorry, i cant help with your specific problem.
Just didn't want you to feel alone...
I don't know whats becoming of Debian these days.
Users need to stick together, but the traffic stats for these lists
paint a bleak picture.
The attitude these days seems to be that 'if its not in bugz
Hi all,
I am trying to complete the network configuration on Debian 12 using the default
installed `ifupdown` package. I have noticed some confusing behavior with
`ifupdown` while following the manual pages.
Specifically, when I place `iface eno1 inet6 auto` with `privext 2` after `iface
inet eno
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