Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-21 Thread Michael Milliman
On 06/21/2016 09:24 AM, John Hasler wrote: Charlie writes: Also no longer use that address or Gmail for the list, as The address is obviously toxic... No it isn't. No it is not my email address that is "toxic." I may be able to make some changes to improve such situations in the future, but

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, Charlie S wrote: > Which people? We who are getting these bounces or some other people? Some other person whose MUA setup is sending the bounces. You'll get them in response to messages that you send to the mailing list while the offending subscriber's email address is broken

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 21 June 2016 09:26:02 Charlie wrote: > Then what sender? The sender of the bounce. The addressee? Lisi

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-21 Thread John Hasler
Charlie writes: > Also no longer use that address or Gmail for the list, as The address > is obviously toxic... No it isn't. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-21 Thread Charlie
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 08:00:09 -0500 Michael Milliman sent: > However, the solution has been presented in this thread -- forward > the offending message to the list administrator so that the email > address from which the spam/bounce notice is coming can be > unsubscribed. Once that happens, the sp

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-21 Thread John Hasler
Here's the explanation: http://www.atelier.net/en/trends/articles/bounceio-looking-turn-non-delivered-emails-advertising-goldmine_431691 https://betterbounces.net/ I'd say that this "Scott Brown" guy behind bounce.io is a bungler, but that may be too generous. He may be doing this on purpose so

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-21 Thread Michael Milliman
On 06/21/2016 03:37 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi Lisi Reisz wrote: It is the sender that has the misconfiguration in this case. But what is misconfigured in particular ? The mail clients used are all different: Lisi: User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10[gets no spam] Michael:User-Agent: M

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-21 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 6/20/16, Michael Milliman wrote: > I just replied to an email here on the debian-user list. I have checked > the debian-user list archive on debian.org, and the email was indeed > received and posted to the list. Nevertheless, I also received a bounce > notice which was somewhat disturbing.

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-21 Thread John Hasler
Charlie writes: > Which people? We who are getting these bounces or some other people? Someone subscribed to the list. Then, for one of many reasons (perhaps they got fired and the address is no longer valid), the email server they utilized started bouncing messages from the list. However, said

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-21 Thread Charlie
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 08:33:22 +0100 Lisi Reisz sent: > On Tuesday 21 June 2016 07:29:42 Charlie S wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:03:10 -0500 Don Armstrong sent: > > > On Mon, 20 Jun 2016, Michael Milliman wrote: > > > > I just replied to an email here on the debian-user list. I have > > > >

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi Lisi Reisz wrote: > It is the sender that has the misconfiguration in this case. But what is misconfigured in particular ? The mail clients used are all different: Lisi: User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10[gets no spam] Michael:User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0[gets spam] Charlie S: X-Maile

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-21 Thread Charlie
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 08:33:22 +0100 Lisi Reisz sent: > On Tuesday 21 June 2016 07:29:42 Charlie S wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:03:10 -0500 Don Armstrong sent: > > > On Mon, 20 Jun 2016, Michael Milliman wrote: > > > > I just replied to an email here on the debian-user list. I have > > > >

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 21 June 2016 07:29:42 Charlie S wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:03:10 -0500 Don Armstrong sent: > > On Mon, 20 Jun 2016, Michael Milliman wrote: > > > I just replied to an email here on the debian-user list. I have > > > checked the debian-user list archive on debian.org, and the email

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-20 Thread Charlie S
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:03:10 -0500 Don Armstrong sent: > On Mon, 20 Jun 2016, Michael Milliman wrote: > > I just replied to an email here on the debian-user list. I have > > checked the debian-user list archive on debian.org, and the email > > was indeed received and posted to the list. Neverthe

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-20 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016, Michael Milliman wrote: > I just replied to an email here on the debian-user list. I have checked the > debian-user list archive on debian.org, and the email was indeed received > and posted to the list. Nevertheless, I also received a bounce notice which > was somewhat distu

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-20 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Michael Milliman wrote: > Situation not resolved Hm. If not the reply by Charlie S would report the same effect, i'd say somebody is picking on you personally. (Subscribe to list, wait for mail from you, make up some pseudo bounce message.) I tried to learn about the strange headers like

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-20 Thread Michael Milliman
On 06/20/2016 04:32 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Joe wrote: There are algorithms, which are particularly keen on bounces, Interestingly the bounce messages did not appear on the list but only in the mailboxes of the original senders. So either the Debian list server filtered them out or it

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-20 Thread Michael Milliman
On 06/20/2016 04:32 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Joe wrote: There are algorithms, which are particularly keen on bounces, Interestingly the bounce messages did not appear on the list but only in the mailboxes of the original senders. So either the Debian list server filtered them out or it

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-20 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Joe wrote: > There are algorithms, which are particularly keen on bounces, Interestingly the bounce messages did not appear on the list but only in the mailboxes of the original senders. So either the Debian list server filtered them out or it did not get them at all. Well, at least during t

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-20 Thread Joe
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:04:17 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > I guess i now get such a mail, too. > > The classical solution by the list admin is to remove the subscription > which causes this mail reflection. Do we have list admins here ? > There are algorithms, which are particularly keen on

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-20 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Michael Milliman wrote: > I also received a bounce notice which was somewhat disturbing. Possibly a relative of the dreaded I-am-on-holiday reply mails. Somebody subscribed to this list and some automat is now reporting that the mail will not be looked at. I guess i now get such a mail, too.

Re: Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-20 Thread Charlie S
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 02:38:41 -0500 Michael Milliman sent: > I just replied to an email here on the debian-user list. I have > checked the debian-user list archive on debian.org, and the email was > indeed received and posted to the list. Nevertheless, I also > received a bounce notice which was

Strange Email Bounce

2016-06-20 Thread Michael Milliman
I just replied to an email here on the debian-user list. I have checked the debian-user list archive on debian.org, and the email was indeed received and posted to the list. Nevertheless, I also received a bounce notice which was somewhat disturbing. It reported the email bounced from bac...