On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 08:17:04PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 09:59:53AM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> >
> > How does /usr/bin/mail know to put outbound mail in /var/spool/exim4/input?
> /usr/bin/main calls /usr/sbin/sendmail . This happens to be exim .
OK, that makes se
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 09:59:53AM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> Hi Osamu,
> Thanks for the response. I really don't get it when it comes to mail.
> MTA/MDA/MUA are kind of confusing, if you know where I can find a 2 page
> explanation of email I'd really like to read it.
> I use /usr/bin/ma
Hi,
Unless you are very low in memory and lacks CPU power and swap space, it
is not worth the trouble to do nodaemon. I do not use it.
I use QUEUERUNNER='queueonly' now since I do not need to have SMTP port
listening daemon but nice to have queue daemon. My laptop is normal one
and is powerful
I save myself a lot of pain and use the esmtp package with Mutt. It
handles sending mail to my ISP and I don't need sophisticated local
delivery so it works for me. I wandered back into Exim land earlier
this year and it wasn't pretty.
- Nate >>
--
"The optimist proclaims that we live in the
Hi Osamu,
Thanks for the response. I really don't get it when it comes to mail.
MTA/MDA/MUA are kind of confusing, if you know where I can find a 2 page
explanation of email I'd really like to read it.
I use /usr/bin/mail, mutt, fetchmail and exim4.
The man page for /usr/bin/mail claims it
On 09/18/2009 02:07 PM, ludovico van wrote:
Agreed. Cron and anacron both need a mailer to inform you of errors and
various packages install cron jobs implicitly.
However, isn't there a local-only mailer that respects /etc/aliases and is
lighter-weight than exim4?
what i do on my compute
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 09:52:59AM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 01:28:21AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
>
> > Then you need an MTA/MDA and just don't run it in daemon mode. I fail
> Earlier in this thread someone suggested editing /etc/default/exim4
> setting QUEUERUNNER
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 04:23:34AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>> Not running a daemon means that you have the overhead of startup for
>> each new delivery. It implies less efficient handling of a queued mail.
>
> Given that he is doing this for local messages from daemons o
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 01:28:21AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Then you need an MTA/MDA and just don't run it in daemon mode. I fail
Earlier in this thread someone suggested editing /etc/default/exim4
setting QUEUERUNNER='nodaemon'.
When I tried this and the mail stopped getting delivered un
On Mon Sep 21, 2009 at 15:04:57 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/skxmail/
> >
> >Works for me on my laptops..
>
> That looks very interesting. Why isn't it available from official Debian
> repos?
Because exim, postfix, nullmailer, ssmtp, all exist al
On Mon,21.Sep.09, 10:32:19, Steve Kemp wrote:
>
> http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/skxmail/
>
>Works for me on my laptops..
That looks very interesting. Why isn't it available from official Debian
repos? It might solve the endless "let's make postfix the default MTA in
Debian" thre
On Monday 21 September 2009 10:06:25 Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,21.Sep.09, 00:48:29, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > >Besides (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) cron doesn't need
> > >an MTA listening on port 25, it uses /sbin/sendmail.
> >
> > Ok, first response was t
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
Not running a daemon means that you have the overhead of startup for
each new delivery. It implies less efficient handling of a queued mail.
Given that he is doing this for local messages from daemons only I think
resident memory is the primary concern, not efficiency o
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:06:25AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> Well the requirements were:
>
> - respects /etc/aliases
> - able to do local delivery
>
> NOT required (and not desired):
>
> - listening to port 25
What's wrong with listening on localhost:25 ?
IIRC this is the default configu
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 09:30:28AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> And did some research. From the packages providing mail-transport-agent
> (except the usual candidates) only xmail and dma seem interesting.
>
> Does anyone have experience with any of the two?
I tried using xmail for a while, bu
On Mon Sep 21, 2009 at 11:06:25 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,21.Sep.09, 00:48:29, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > >Besides (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) cron doesn't need
> > >an MTA listening on port 25, it uses /sbin/sendmail.
> >
> > Ok, first response was
09/21/2009 11:46 AM, Andrei Popescu:
- respects /etc/aliases
- able to do local delivery
Postfix with its non-monolithic architecture would help; but you'll
need an MDA in that case (Exim fills both roles).
Huh? Postfix works fine without an MDA...
He did not tell Postfix doesnt work. Or my e
Andrei Popescu wrote:
- I don't want to run a listening MTA on some machine just for that
Then don't run it in daemon mode. Not seeing the problem here. It isn't
like when it is called locally it binds to port 25.
--
Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream?
On Mon,21.Sep.09, 01:28:21, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >Well the requirements were:
>
> >- respects /etc/aliases
> >- able to do local delivery
>
> Then you need an MTA/MDA and just don't run it in daemon mode.
> I fail to see what the issue is with Exim in that case. If run
Andrei Popescu wrote:
Well the requirements were:
- respects /etc/aliases
- able to do local delivery
Then you need an MTA/MDA and just don't run it in daemon mode. I fail to
see what the issue is with Exim in that case. If runsize for the transient
time it is delivering mail is a pr
On Mon,21.Sep.09, 00:48:29, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >Besides (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) cron doesn't need
> >an MTA listening on port 25, it uses /sbin/sendmail.
>
> Ok, first response was that nullmailer might work. Is the
> intent to get it to another MTA w
Andrei Popescu wrote:
Besides (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) cron doesn't need an
MTA listening on port 25, it uses /sbin/sendmail.
Ok, first response was that nullmailer might work. Is the intent to get
it to another MTA which doe the final delivery nullmailer works. If it is
09/21/2009 10:36 AM, Andrei Popescu:
However, isn't there a local-only mailer that respects /etc/aliases and is
lighter-weight than exim4?
I'm interested as well.
What about launching MTA from (x)inetd?
If I'm not mistaken that would replace one daemon (the MTA) with another
one ((x)inetd). Wh
On Mon,21.Sep.09, 09:58:45, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
> 09/17/2009 07:48 PM, Andrei Popescu:
> >>Agreed. Cron and anacron both need a mailer to inform you of errors and
> >>various packages install cron jobs implicitly.
> >>However, isn't there a local-only mailer that respects /etc/aliases a
09/17/2009 07:48 PM, Andrei Popescu:
Agreed. Cron and anacron both need a mailer to inform you of errors and
various packages install cron jobs implicitly.
However, isn't there a local-only mailer that respects /etc/aliases and is
lighter-weight than exim4?
I'm interested as well.
What about
On Thu,17.Sep.09, 19:48:06, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Thu,17.Sep.09, 08:14:30, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>
> > Agreed. Cron and anacron both need a mailer to inform you of errors and
> > various packages install cron jobs implicitly.
> >
> > However, isn't there a local-only mailer that r
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 02:07:21PM +0200, ludovico van wrote:
> > Agreed. Cron and anacron both need a mailer to inform you of errors and
> > various packages install cron jobs implicitly.
> >
> > However, isn't there a local-only mailer that respects /etc/aliases and is
> > lighter-weight than ex
> Agreed. Cron and anacron both need a mailer to inform you of errors and
> various packages install cron jobs implicitly.
>
> However, isn't there a local-only mailer that respects /etc/aliases and is
> lighter-weight than exim4?
what i do on my computers is putting
QUEUERUNNER='nodaemon'
in /et
2009/9/18 Tom H :
> k.d.jant...@t-online.de wrote:
>>> in the booting sequence of Debian lenny I see a line saying
>>> Starting MTA:
>>> It "takes ages" until Debian comes up with "exim4". Thus booting takes
>>> quite some time.
>
k.d.jant...@t-online.de wrote:
>> in the booting sequence of Debian lenny I see a line saying
>> Starting MTA:
>> It "takes ages" until Debian comes up with "exim4". Thus booting takes
>> quite some time.
>> What does that mean?
>> Do
On Thu,17.Sep.09, 08:14:30, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> Agreed. Cron and anacron both need a mailer to inform you of errors and
> various packages install cron jobs implicitly.
>
> However, isn't there a local-only mailer that respects /etc/aliases and is
> lighter-weight than exim4?
I'm
(TOFU corrected; please trim your replies and use interleaved posting style
for this list.)
In <9519478a2c4b49998620b5579bc2d...@ionicoffice.ionic.co.uk>, Chris Harries
wrote:
>-Original Message-
>From: Jochen Schulz [mailto:m...@well-adjusted.de]
>Sent: 17 September 2009 12:30
>
>>Micha
In <20090917111213.gl...@wasteland.homelinux.net>, Jochen Schulz wrote:
>Dale:
>> 2009/9/17 K. Jantzen :
>>> in the booting sequence of Debian lenny I see a line saying
>>>
>>> Starting MTA:
>>>
>>> It "takes ages" until
Dale wrote:
> 2009/9/17 K. Jantzen :
>> Hello
>>
>> in the booting sequence of Debian lenny I see a line saying
>>
>> Starting MTA:
>>
>> It "takes ages" until Debian comes up with "exim4". Thus booting takes
>> quite som
I was pointing in the right direction, rather then holding a hand
-Original Message-
From: Jochen Schulz [mailto:m...@well-adjusted.de]
Sent: 17 September 2009 12:30
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Starting MTA:
Michal:
>
> MTA is mail transfer agent, exim is one of
Michal:
>
> MTA is mail transfer agent, exim is one of those, like sendmail,
> postfix et al, and you can remove this. Check the guide under
> install/remove some software
>
> update-rc.d -f exim remove
This is bad advice for various reasons.
- It doesn't solve the problem, it's just a workarou
Dale:
> 2009/9/17 K. Jantzen :
>>
>> in the booting sequence of Debian lenny I see a line saying
>>
>> Starting MTA:
>>
>> It "takes ages" until Debian comes up with "exim4". Thus booting takes
>> quite some time.
>>
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:28:35 +0200, K. Jantzen wrote:
> Hello
>
> in the booting sequence of Debian lenny I see a line saying
>
> Starting MTA:
>
> It "takes ages" until Debian comes up with "exim4". Thus booting
> takes quite some time.
Che
-Original Message-
From: K. Jantzen [mailto:k.d.jant...@t-online.de]
Sent: 17 September 2009 11:29
To: DebianUser
Subject: Starting MTA:
Hello
in the booting sequence of Debian lenny I see a line saying
Starting MTA:
It "takes ages" until Debian comes up with "exim4
2009/9/17 K. Jantzen :
> Hello
>
> in the booting sequence of Debian lenny I see a line saying
>
> Starting MTA:
>
> It "takes ages" until Debian comes up with "exim4". Thus booting takes
> quite some time.
>
> What does that mean?
> Do I
Hello
in the booting sequence of Debian lenny I see a line saying
Starting MTA:
It "takes ages" until Debian comes up with "exim4". Thus booting takes
quite some time.
What does that mean?
Do I have to have that?
If not, how can I get rid of it.
Thanks.
-
On Thursday 06 September 2007 23:28, Jeff D wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Chris wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 September 2007 21:35, Celejar wrote:
> >> On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:13:02 +0200
> >>
> >> Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I have several desktop systems, and regadless of whet
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Chris wrote:
On Thursday 06 September 2007 21:35, Celejar wrote:
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:13:02 +0200
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
I have several desktop systems, and regadless of whether I leave exim4
unconfigured, or setup for local system use only, it takes quite
On 9/6/07, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have several desktop systems, and regadless of whether I leave exim4
> unconfigured, or setup for local system use only, it takes quite a while to
> start on boot.
>
> I don't really know what the MTA is supposed to do on a laptop or desktop
>
On Thursday 06 September 2007 21:35, Celejar wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:13:02 +0200
>
> Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have several desktop systems, and regadless of whether I leave exim4
> > unconfigured, or setup for local system use only, it takes quite a while
> > to sta
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:13:02 +0200
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have several desktop systems, and regadless of whether I leave exim4
> unconfigured, or setup for local system use only, it takes quite a while to
> start on boot.
Googling for (parts of your) subject &quo
quite a while
> > to start on boot.
>
> Googling for (parts of your) subject "Starting MTA takes long" would have
> taken you directly to
> http://datenroulette.de/blog/index.php?blog=4&title=starting_mta_takes_a_lo
>ng_time&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:13:02 +0200
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have several desktop systems, and regadless of whether I leave exim4
> unconfigured, or setup for local system use only, it takes quite a while to
> start on boot.
>
> I don't really know what the MTA is supposed to
Hi,
I have several desktop systems, and regadless of whether I leave exim4
unconfigured, or setup for local system use only, it takes quite a while to
start on boot.
I don't really know what the MTA is supposed to do on a laptop or desktop
system, but I've read that it shouldn't be uninstallte
#include
* Serena Cantor [Fri, Oct 13 2006, 07:02:26PM]:
> During sarge installation, I select 3rd option (local delivery). Each time it
> boots, starting MTA
> take too much time, I have to remove it from /etc/rc2.d.
You have a broken (but configured) internet connection? Your
On Saturday 14 October 2006 12:02, Serena Cantor wrote:
> During sarge installation, I select 3rd option (local delivery). Each time
> it boots, starting MTA take too much time, I have to remove it from
> /etc/rc2.d.
>
> Is there any problem with that?
AFAIK you should have some
During sarge installation, I select 3rd option (local delivery). Each time it
boots, starting MTA
take too much time, I have to remove it from /etc/rc2.d.
Is there any problem with that?
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On 2005-11-23, roberto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i have kernel 2.6.8-2-386 currently installed and when i boot not
> being connected to the network the booting process stops for at least
> 3 or 4 minutes showing:
> .....
> Starting MTA:
> .
>
> and then it goe
> > 3 or 4 minutes showing:
> > .
> > Starting MTA:
> > .
> Install ifplugd, i.e. aptitude install ifplugd.
>
i installed ifplugd but the problem is still there;
i attach here some useful parts of /var/log/messages:
kernel: tg3: eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full du
On Wednesday 23 November 2005 01:12 am, roberto wrote:
> hello
> i have kernel 2.6.8-2-386 currently installed and when i boot not
> being connected to the network the booting process stops for at least
> 3 or 4 minutes showing:
> .....
> Starting MTA:
> .
>
> an
The problem is that the MTA is trying to do reverse lookups on you
hostname, configure local dns on the box, or put a /etc/hosts entry
with your ip and full dns hostname in it.
Kegan Holtzhausen
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A solution:
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Regards,
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roberto escreveu:
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Starting MTA:
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hello
i have kernel 2.6.8-2-386 currently installed and when i boot not
being connected to the network the booting process stops for at least
3 or 4 minutes showing:
.
Starting MTA:
.
and then it goes on correctly, but it is very tedious to wait so much,
how can i skip this test if the pc
connect to the
Internet (mail and
browse) via a network at the office where I was working. Now that
I'm home I
notice that when booting the system hangs for approximately 60
seconds at
"Starting: MTA."
I'm pretty green with Linux, but I'm guessing that the mail
transfer
Where is this GUI? I have the same problem (litterally: No network, eth0, hangs at start-up).
Thanks.
Indeed it was looking for a network.
Found the solution. I went to the network settings GUI and unchecked "activate
when the computer starts" in the properties menu for the ethernet LAN card
(eth0). I don't have a network at home, but had used a network while at an
out-of-town office.
Now it d
On 6/20/05, David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 20 June 2005 22:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > Now that I'm home I
> > notice that when booting the system hangs for approximately 60 seconds at
> > "Starting: MTA."
> >
> &g
On Monday 20 June 2005 22:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Now that I'm home I
> notice that when booting the system hangs for approximately 60 seconds at
> "Starting: MTA."
>
> I'm pretty green with Linux, but I'm guessing that the mail transfer agent
>
On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Elmer E. Dow wrote:
I was traveling on business and attempted to connect to the Internet (mail and
browse) via a network at the office where I was working. Now that I'm home I
notice that when booting the system hangs for approximately 60 seconds at
"Starting: MT
Greetings:
I was traveling on business and attempted to connect to the Internet (mail and
browse) via a network at the office where I was working. Now that I'm home I
notice that when booting the system hangs for approximately 60 seconds at
"Starting: MTA."
I'm pretty g
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