Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-14 Thread deloptes
Eugen Dedu wrote: > Thank you to all for your comments.  After the post, it worked ok until > yesterday.  Yesterday I shut down the laptop and noticed that the > problem affected grub again, so X is not faulty.  I opened the laptop, > but only the back cover; the keyboard is on the front cover, an

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-14 Thread Eugen Dedu
Hi, I have a Dell Latitude 5580 laptop, and have been a happy debian unstable user for 20 years. I have a very weird problem with its builtin keyboard which slows down my work significantly (ctrl-c, ctrl-x, ENTER etc. do not work): Since several months ago some keys on my keyboard do not work

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-12 Thread Doug McGarrett
On 8/12/20 5:24 AM, songbird wrote: Dan Ritter wrote: Doug McGarrett wrote: Someone along this thread mentioned key-pullers. I have a couple of IBM model M keyboards that haven't been cleaned in years. They work well anyway, but I'd like to clean the keys. Where could I get one of those key-

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-12 Thread songbird
Dan Ritter wrote: > Doug McGarrett wrote: >> >> Someone along this thread mentioned key-pullers. I have a couple of IBM >> model M >> keyboards that haven't been cleaned in years. They work well anyway, but I'd >> like to clean >> the keys. Where could I get one of those key-puller tools? >> (If

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-12 Thread songbird
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Oh, one other thing I should mention -- on most keyboards (at least the ones > I've cleaned) there are some metal pieces (essentially springs) under many of > the larger (wider) keys. I am pretty sure they are intended to allow > pressing > either end (or the center

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-11 Thread Dan Ritter
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Oh, one other thing I should mention -- on most keyboards (at least the ones > I've cleaned) there are some metal pieces (essentially springs) under many of > the larger (wider) keys. I am pretty sure they are intended to allow > pressing > either end (or the cente

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Doug McGarrett wrote: > > Someone along this thread mentioned key-pullers. I have a couple of IBM > model M > keyboards that haven't been cleaned in years. They work well anyway, but I'd > like to clean > the keys. Where could I get one of those key-puller tools? > (If you ever get a chance to ge

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-11 Thread rhkramer
Oh, one other thing I should mention -- on most keyboards (at least the ones I've cleaned) there are some metal pieces (essentially springs) under many of the larger (wider) keys. I am pretty sure they are intended to allow pressing either end (or the center) of those long keys (e.g., the space

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-11 Thread Doug McGarrett
On 8/11/20 9:53 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: The way I clean (a non-laptop) keyboard is by disassembling it and putting all the parts in a fresh (i.e., clean) washtub of warm water with dishsoap, let it soak for a few minutes, then rinse with clean water and let dry, often

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-11 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 10:28:37 AM Stefan Monnier wrote: > That should work as well, but I was never able to disassemble any part > of a keyboard without having the impression that I was breaking it, so > I prefer to refrain from any such thing. I started doing it a long time ago, so have pro

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
> The way I clean (a non-laptop) keyboard is by disassembling it and putting > all > the parts in a fresh (i.e., clean) washtub of warm water with dishsoap, let > it > soak for a few minutes, then rinse with clean water and let dry, often > overnight (I almost always have a spare keyboard, but

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-11 Thread Dan Ritter
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > The way I clean (a non-laptop) keyboard is by disassembling it and putting > all > the parts in a fresh (i.e., clean) washtub of warm water with dishsoap, let > it > soak for a few minutes, then rinse with clean water and let dry, often > overnight (I almost always

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-11 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, August 10, 2020 10:34:56 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > IIRC, this is about a keyboard on a laptop -- I would not put any part of > > that in a dishwasher. > > You sure can, tho you'll want to put only the keyboard (many other parts > of a laptop can go safely into the dishwasher, actuall

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
> IIRC, this is about a keyboard on a laptop -- I would not put any part of > that > in a dishwasher. You sure can, tho you'll want to put only the keyboard (many other parts of a laptop can go safely into the dishwasher, actually, but indeed you probably don't want to put the whole laptop in).

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-10 Thread rhkramer
IIRC, this is about a keyboard on a laptop -- I would not put any part of that in a dishwasher. On Monday, August 10, 2020 07:04:39 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I suspect it is a hardware problem, and what I would do is get the manual > > for the laptop and look into how hard it might be to clean

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I suspect it is a hardware problem, and what I would do is get the manual for > the laptop and look into how hard it might be to clean the keyboard. Definitely a good idea, since it's easy to do and can solve the problem (depending on the problem's origin, obviously). > You might try blowing o

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-10 Thread Doug McGarrett
On 8/10/20 7:56 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: Hi, I have a Dell Latitude 5580 laptop, and have been a happy debian unstable user for 20 years.  I have a very weird problem with its builtin keyboard which slows down my work significantly (ctrl-c, ctrl-x, ENTER etc. do not work): Since several mon

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-10 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, August 10, 2020 07:56:43 AM Eugen Dedu wrote: > I have a Dell Latitude 5580 laptop, and have been a happy debian > unstable user for 20 years. I have a very weird problem with its > builtin keyboard which slows down my work significantly (ctrl-c, ctrl-x, > ENTER etc. do not work): > >

Re: Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-10 Thread Stefan Krusche
Dear Eugen, Am Montag 10 August 2020 schrieb Eugen Dedu: > Hi, > > I have a Dell Latitude 5580 laptop, and have been a happy debian > unstable user for 20 years. I have a very weird problem with its > builtin keyboard which slows down my work significantly (ctrl-c, > ctrl-x, ENTER etc. do not wor

Some keys on the keyboard do not work

2020-08-10 Thread Eugen Dedu
Hi, I have a Dell Latitude 5580 laptop, and have been a happy debian unstable user for 20 years. I have a very weird problem with its builtin keyboard which slows down my work significantly (ctrl-c, ctrl-x, ENTER etc. do not work): Since several months ago some keys on my keyboard do not wo