On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 01:38:39AM +, Alan Chandler wrote:
>
> This is just taking a side swipe at Microsoft and only asserts that
> patents stifle innovation rather than explain why.
>
> I think the argument as to why patents are wrong is much more concerned
> with
>
I think that the best
On Friday 12 January 2007 10:29, marc wrote:
I am a UK citizen and have signed the petition. However, the arguments
used below seem to be fairly weak.
> Extract:
>
> "Software patents are used by convicted monopolists to threaten
> customers who consider using rival soft
Chris Lale said...
> If you are a UK citizen or resident and you have a view against
> software patents you might like to consider signing up to this
> formal Petition at Number Ten's website:
>
> http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/softwarepatents/
Excellent. Thanks, Chris.
Extract
If you are a UK citizen or resident and you have a view against software
patents you might like to consider signing up to this formal Petition at Number
Ten's website:
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/softwarepatents/
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HO this vote was more about power politics between the Commission and the
> Parliament than about software patents. If the Commission comes back later
> with a less confrontational approach the same MEPs who voted no this time
> may vote yes.
The issue has exposed a major constitutio
han about software patents. If the Commission comes back later
with a less confrontational approach the same MEPs who voted no this time
may vote yes.
> Hopefully, this will lead to a more sensible approach the next time the
> issue comes around.
A politician's definition of 'sensible&#x
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 14:18 +0200, Piero Piutti wrote:
> This is a great day for democracy in Europe: the European Parliament
> has rejected the Software Patents directive by 648/680 votes. We're
> free, we're save, we're happy!
>
> ;-))
>
> http://mail.f
Dave Ewart wrote:
On Wednesday, 06.07.2005 at 07:56 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
Piero Piutti writes:
We're free, we're save, we're happy!
You aren't safe. The national governments are free to adopt their own
software patent legislation, and the Commission is free to try again
later.
s/is
On Wednesday July 6 2005 15:43, Dave Ewart wrote:
> On Wednesday, 06.07.2005 at 07:56 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> > You aren't safe. The national governments are free to adopt their own
> > software patent legislation, and the Commission is free to try again
> > later.
>
> s/is free to/will almost
On Wednesday, 06.07.2005 at 07:56 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Piero Piutti writes:
> > We're free, we're save, we're happy!
>
> You aren't safe. The national governments are free to adopt their own
> software patent legislation, and the Commission is free to try again
> later.
s/is free to/will
Piero Piutti writes:
> We're free, we're save, we're happy!
You aren't safe. The national governments are free to adopt their own
software patent legislation, and the Commission is free to try again later.
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This is a great day for democracy in Europe: the European Parliament
has rejected the Software Patents directive by 648/680 votes. We're
free, we're save, we're happy!
;-))
http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/press-release/2005q3/000109.html
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Joe wrote:
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
This threat went bad. I never thought that what I like could be
bethreated like this by our own politicans. People that are elected
by us to work for our wealth and security. I just feel really
disapointed by the way things turning.
I hope we gonna have
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
This threat went bad. I never thought that what I like could be
bethreated like this by our own politicans. People that are elected by
us to work for our wealth and security. I just feel really disapointed
by the way things turning.
I hope we gonna have good surprise
On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 08:21:33AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> Geoff Thurman wrote:
>
> >But isn't he right, at the end of the day, to be concerned about
> >software patents?
> >
> Yes.
>
> >And I would have thought this list was exactly the
> &
Geoff Thurman wrote:
>But isn't he right, at the end of the day, to be concerned about
>software patents?
>
Yes.
>And I would have thought this list was exactly the
>right place for a discussion of these issues.
>
Not so much, no. A better place would be debian-legal
(
Geoff Thurman on 01/07/05 11:50, wrote:
But isn't he right, at the end of the day, to be concerned about
software patents? Are the large companies not going to use the
legislation in the same way McDonalds used the libel law? Personally I
find the way politics is run these days far more ob
gt;>
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> >>> Code of conduct
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> >>>Do not use foul language; besides, some people receive the lists via
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Steve Block wrote:
Please
stop or take your comments to slashdot, where they belong.
Steve, you're right : this comment should belong to Slashdot.
I know this mailing list is much more made for technical purpose.
However, this is the technic that is bethreated by software patents.
I&#
adio, where swearing is illegal.
There are other languages and behaviors that don't use or bit
are much worst.
There is a huge misinformation campaign to make deputies think software
patents are necessary for innovation.
Many people are mooving. Like writing letters
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
> Kent West wrote:
>
>> Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
>>
>
> There is a huge misinformation campaign to make deputies think software
> patents are necessary for innovation.
> Many people are mooving. Like writing letters to their deputies and
s and behaviors that don't use or bit
are much worst.
There is a huge misinformation campaign to make deputies think software
patents are necessary for innovation.
Many people are mooving. Like writing letters to their deputies and to
newspapers.
The more people would hav
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
> My little sister could register on a web site.
and
> If tomorrow my job is to migrate Linux plateforms onto windows, then
> i'll feel like and will soon be unemployed.
Realizing that different cultures have different concepts of "foul
language", this is just a remi
Adam Hardy wrote:
I tried to register myself on the German anti-software-patent site,
but failed - I can't remember why,
Fine Adam.
Your "tried to register on the anti-software-patent site, but failed".
You're really that kind of person that make software patents woul
t failed".
>
> You're really that kind of person that make software patents would
> happen. My little sister could register on a web site. You don't
> even know the name of those who are helping you to keep your liberty to
> continue to create and use the software y
.
Consternation.
Hey Guillaume, take it easy, man. Most people agree that software
patents are ridiculous but you can't stop corporations from trying
everything they can to increase their shareholder value. That's their
reason for existing. Corporations are like liquid - they wi
But many opensource software will leave the enterprise field.
In 25 countries with declining growth, yes. Hundreds of other countries
may realize that they gain a competetive advantage by not cutting their
own throats with software patents (and other "IP" laws). They might even
have a m
Marty wrote:
ress the root problem.
IMNSHO there will always be some countries that outlaw some kinds of
free software, but it's unlikely that all countries will outlaw any
kinds of free software.
Marty, i'm speaking about the European Union. This ain't 2 or 3
countries. This is the whole w
ome european debian users here : you're concerned
more than ever. Your favorite system, your favorite apps, your skills
and future jobs are in danger.
Why spend time getting more skills on a system which might die?
G
Why be a fear-monger? We have software patents in the US but debian
hum
projected to reach
zero. It's gone up again because testing isn't Sarge any more.
This sucks
Yes, but democracy being what it is, it will happen. How many of your
non-IT friends are concerned about software patents?
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Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
But patents aren't really about software? Uh?
I guess there is some european debian users here : you're concerned more
than ever. Your favorite system, your favorite apps, your skills and
future jobs are in danger.
Why spend time getting more skills on a system whic
...
> I guess there is some european debian users here : you're concerned more
> than ever. Your favorite system, your favorite apps, your skills and
> future jobs are in danger.
>
> Why spend time getting more skills on a system which might die?
Debian and other free software will survive by
tem, your favorite apps, your skills and
future jobs are in danger.
Why spend time getting more skills on a system which might die?
G
Why be a fear-monger? We have software patents in the US but debian
hums happily along.
Also insulting the list that you want discussion from won't win y
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
The release of sarge stable just comes up some weeks before European
Union could vote for extented patentability of software.
I guess a lot of packages from sarge are made from gnu projects that
could be really endanger.
If some projects are attacked by lawyers and
The release of sarge stable just comes up some weeks before European
Union could vote for extented patentability of software.
I guess a lot of packages from sarge are made from gnu projects that
could be really endanger.
If some projects are attacked by lawyers and have to close down, what
h
Hello people:
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See this url:
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:05:01 -0500,
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> On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:57:32PM -0800, Loren M Lang wrote:
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> > I'm preparing a pursuasive speech against software patents for my
> > class and I&#
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:57:32PM -0800, Loren M Lang wrote:
> I'm preparing a pursuasive speech against software patents for my
> class and I'm looking for information on patents that have had the
> biggest impact to inhibit the use of software like the patent on the
> l
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I'm preparing a pursuasive speech against software patents for my
class and I'm looking for information on patents that have had the
biggest impact to inhibit the use of software like the patent on the
lzw compression used in gif or the
> Software patents are threating the freedom of programmers and users of
> free software in Europe alike. If this becomes a reality then the Free
> Software Community will suffer a hard blow to say the least. So if you
> live in Europe please take this seriously, make your voice hear
ur invention in other
products has to pay license fees to you.
I don't want to discuss normal patents right now, but for software
this will be essentially a restriction for what you are ALLOWED to
program.
Let me give you a real example from the USA because software patents
are already
What's a software patent ??
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Hi,
Software patents are threating the freedom of programmers and users of
free software in Europe alike. If this becomes a reality then the Free
Software Community will suffer a hard blow to say the least. So if you
live in Europe please take this seriously, make your voice heard and
tell all
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