Re: Soft ejects

2000-01-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
> "Ethan" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ethan> On 9/1/2000 Brian May wrote: Brian> [1] Dos/windows copes with this problem in a different (IMHO Brian> broken) way - it keeps track of which disk is inserted, and if Brian> it needs to read/write to another disk, it complains to the

Re: Soft ejects

2000-01-13 Thread Sean Johnson
I agree completely. Sean Joachim Trinkwitz wrote: > > Fish Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The bottom line is, it isn't appropriate for my > > machine to be making decisions as to whether it is > > appropriate to eject a dis(k/c) or not. I should be > > making those decisions because t

Re: Soft ejects

2000-01-13 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Fish Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The bottom line is, it isn't appropriate for my > machine to be making decisions as to whether it is > appropriate to eject a dis(k/c) or not. I should be > making those decisions because the machine is > unreliable and if I make a bad decision then I, as

Re: Soft ejects

2000-01-10 Thread David Wright
ou leave it a while if writing, and (b) it's a FAT disk rather than ext2. This is one reason why I only use FAT floppies. (The other is I'm worried about people thinking ext2 floppies are corrupted and throwing them away when they can't read them.) > >Perhaps the real problem wi

Re: Soft ejects

2000-01-10 Thread Ethan Benson
On 10/1/2000 Brian May wrote: However, I see you are now correct. Now data is written to the disk almost immediately (1 second delay) after it is dirty. This means the developers have put the safety of the disk ahead of performance issues... this is not necessarily the case, from my tests some

Re: Soft ejects

2000-01-10 Thread Ethan Benson
On 9/1/2000 Fish Smith wrote: I was taught in kindergarten /never/ to remove a disk when the light was on, and I never do it. Removing while it is mounted but not currently being read or written isn't very damaging--you just get an error message, have to unmount and remount. this is true if

Re: Soft ejects

2000-01-09 Thread Brian May
> "Fish" == Fish Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> It is not only newbies that can make stupid mistakes, and >> remove a floppy disk that is currently mounted... Fish> I was taught in kindergarten /never/ to remove a disk when Fish> the light was on, and I never do it. Rem

Re: Soft ejects

2000-01-09 Thread Fish Smith
very damaging--you just get an error message, have to unmount and remount. >Perhaps the real problem with soft ejects is that current >implementations make it to easy to override, eg when the power is off. >Personally, I think I would much prefer the risk of not being able to >eject a

OT: Re: Soft ejects

2000-01-09 Thread Robert Waldner
On Sat, 08 Jan 2000 23:09:43 -0900, Ethan Benson writes: >On 9/1/2000 Brian May wrote: >>as far as to suggest that the CD-ROM might be dirty. Now thats what I >>call "machine is smarter"!!! which reminds me of a user crying: "you dumb computer, do what I want, not what I say!" *g* &rw -- -- +++

Re: Soft ejects

2000-01-09 Thread Ethan Benson
On 9/1/2000 Brian May wrote: [1] Dos/windows copes with this problem in a different (IMHO broken) way - it keeps track of which disk is inserted, and if it needs to read/write to another disk, it complains to the user to reinsert the original disk. Why is this mechanism broken? For starters: som

Re: Soft ejects

2000-01-09 Thread Brian May
o tolerate a system with a Fish> learning curve then they don't have to use it, and probably Fish> don't deserve to. Leave this domain to those of us who do Fish> care to learn. It is not only newbies that can make stupid mistakes, and remove a floppy disk that is

Re: Soft ejects

2000-01-08 Thread Fish Smith
Disclaimer: Some of this can probably be interpreted as flame bait. So let 'er rip =) >> > I've hever been able to open a CD drive without unmounting the volume -- the >> > drawer won't open. >> >> Along the same linesthis is the one mechanism of mac/sun/other(?) >> floppies that I would lik

Re: Soft ejects (was Re: umount - URGENT)

2000-01-07 Thread Dave Sherohman
Gary Hennigan said: > My SGI is entirely "soft button". If it crashes sometimes I can't even > turn the power off on it, I end up having to unplug the stupid thing > to reset it! That's excessive, of course, but I'd like to see something along the lines of the option on most ATX BIOSes to have a m

Soft ejects (was Re: umount - URGENT)

2000-01-07 Thread Gary Hennigan
Brian Servis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > *- On 7 Jan, Carl Fink wrote about "Re: umount - URGENT" > > On Fri, Jan 07, 2000 at 01:52:15PM -0500, Michael Stenner wrote: > >> while it's a good habit to demand successful umounts before removing > >> media, remember that it IS a cdROM after all. You