Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-12 Thread mick crane
On 2019-04-12 16:11, Celejar wrote: On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 07:54:57 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: mick crane wrote: > I have wondered what they do to stop people broadcasting their own top level > domain. Nothing. They don't have to. If you want a top level domain and you control your own nameservers

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-12 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 07:54:57 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > mick crane wrote: > > I have wondered what they do to stop people broadcasting their own top level > > domain. > > Nothing. They don't have to. > > If you want a top level domain and you control your own > nameservers, you've got it. > >

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-12 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 mick crane wrote: > On 2019-04-12 13:31, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Friday 12 April 2019 07:54:57 Dan Ritter wrote: >>> [...] >>> This can actually be useful: you can define .crane for use >>> within your house, and now you have names that nobody else

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-12 Thread mick crane
On 2019-04-12 13:31, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 12 April 2019 07:54:57 Dan Ritter wrote: mick crane wrote: > I have wondered what they do to stop people broadcasting their own > top level domain. Nothing. They don't have to. If you want a top level domain and you control your own nameserve

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 12 April 2019 07:54:57 Dan Ritter wrote: > mick crane wrote: > > I have wondered what they do to stop people broadcasting their own > > top level domain. > > Nothing. They don't have to. > > If you want a top level domain and you control your own > nameservers, you've got it. > > But nob

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-12 Thread Dan Ritter
mick crane wrote: > I have wondered what they do to stop people broadcasting their own top level > domain. Nothing. They don't have to. If you want a top level domain and you control your own nameservers, you've got it. But nobody else is likely to query your nameservers about it, so it won't b

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-12 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 mick crane wrote: > On 2019-04-12 10:57, Dan Purgert wrote: >> mick crane wrote: >>> On 2019-04-11 17:16, mick crane wrote: On 2019-04-11 17:05, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 05:02:46PM +0100, mick crane wrote: >> I thin

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-12 Thread mick crane
On 2019-04-12 10:57, Dan Purgert wrote: mick crane wrote: On 2019-04-11 17:16, mick crane wrote: On 2019-04-11 17:05, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 05:02:46PM +0100, mick crane wrote: I think that is what dynamic ip address services do, change the ipaddress but the service has

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-12 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 mick crane wrote: > On 2019-04-11 17:16, mick crane wrote: >> On 2019-04-11 17:05, Greg Wooledge wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 05:02:46PM +0100, mick crane wrote: I think that is what dynamic ip address services do, change the ipaddre

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-12 Thread mick crane
On 2019-04-11 17:16, mick crane wrote: On 2019-04-11 17:05, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 05:02:46PM +0100, mick crane wrote: I think that is what dynamic ip address services do, change the ipaddress but the service has to be on the ISP's router ? Do I understand correctly then

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-11 Thread Jan Claeys
On Fri, 2019-04-12 at 00:42 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 02:34:30AM +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: > > Why not use a dynamic DNS provider? > > > > > Primarily because it wouldn't solve my problem. IIUC it would allow > me to map a domain name to the IP address assigned to my ho

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-11 Thread mick crane
On 2019-04-11 17:05, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 05:02:46PM +0100, mick crane wrote: I think that is what dynamic ip address services do, change the ipaddress but the service has to be on the ISP's router ? Do I understand correctly then when your isp/home address changes your

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 02:34:30AM +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: > > On Mon, 2019-04-08 at 21:33 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > I've created a very simple script that is capable of parsing the > > > output of "ip addr" and comparing the returned ip address for the > > > releva

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-11 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 11:51:44AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:42:12AM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > Why not use a dynamic DNS provider? > > > The problem is how I know that the IP > > address has changed and hence the DNS mapping needs updating. > > By doing it

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 05:02:46PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > I think that is what dynamic ip address services do, change the ipaddress > but the service has to be on the ISP's router ? > Do I understand correctly then when your isp/home address changes your box > broadcasts its domain new address

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-11 Thread mick crane
On 2019-04-11 16:42, Mark Fletcher wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 02:34:30AM +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: On Mon, 2019-04-08 at 21:33 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > I've created a very simple script that is capable of parsing the > output of "ip addr" and comparing the returned ip address for the > r

RESOLVED: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-11 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 02:14:33PM +0100, Thomas Pircher wrote: > Mark Fletcher wrote: > > mutt won't let me go back and edit the subject line. > > Hi Mark, > > > Short version: Is it reasonable to expect a piece of software to exist > > that establishes a direct connection to a "remote" MTA and

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:42:12AM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > Why not use a dynamic DNS provider? > The problem is how I know that the IP > address has changed and hence the DNS mapping needs updating. By doing it correctly. has an example for Debian

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-11 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 02:34:30AM +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: > On Mon, 2019-04-08 at 21:33 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > I've created a very simple script that is capable of parsing the > > output of "ip addr" and comparing the returned ip address for the > > relevant interface to a stored ip addr

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 08.04.19 17:43, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 09:33:03PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > Hello all > > > > As I wrote this I began to consider this is slightly OT for this list; > > my apologies for not putting OT in the subject line but mutt won't let > > me go back and e

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Jan Claeys
On Mon, 2019-04-08 at 21:33 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > I've created a very simple script that is capable of parsing the > output of "ip addr" and comparing the returned ip address for the > relevant interface to a stored ip address, and thus being able to > tell if the IP address has changed. Wh

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 14:14:33 +0100 Thomas Pircher wrote: > Mark Fletcher wrote: > > mutt won't let me go back and edit the subject line. > > Hi Mark, > > FYI, mutt does allow you to change the Subject line, in the Compose > Menu, just before sending the mail. > > > Short version: Is it reasonab

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 09:33:03PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > Hello all > > As I wrote this I began to consider this is slightly OT for this list; > my apologies for not putting OT in the subject line but mutt won't let > me go back and edit the subject line. Mutt can do that, too. To send v

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 02:39:35PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 21:33:03 +0900 > Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > > > > My image of an ideal solution is a piece of software that can present > > email to a remote MTA (ie an MTA not on the local machine) for > > delivery, but is not itself a

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 02:14:33PM +0100, Thomas Pircher wrote: > Mark Fletcher wrote: > > mutt won't let me go back and edit the subject line. > > Hi Mark, > > Yes, have a look at the dma or nullmailer packages. There used to be > more of these programs in Debian (ssmtp, for example), but on my

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Joe
On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 21:33:03 +0900 Mark Fletcher wrote: > > My image of an ideal solution is a piece of software that can present > email to a remote MTA (ie an MTA not on the local machine) for > delivery, but is not itself an MTA, and certainly has no capability > to listen for incoming mail.

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 07:54:30AM -0500, Ryan Nowakowski wrote: > You might check out sSMTP[1] > > [1] https://wiki.debian.org/sSMTP > Thanks, looks like sSMTP will do the job. As was pointed out elsewhere in the thread, it seems to have been dropped from Buster, but that is no barrier for me

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
You might check out sSMTP[1] [1] https://wiki.debian.org/sSMTP On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 09:33:03PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > Hello all > > As I wrote this I began to consider this is slightly OT for this list; > my apologies for not putting OT in the subject line but mutt won't let > me go

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Thomas Pircher
Mark Fletcher wrote: > mutt won't let me go back and edit the subject line. Hi Mark, FYI, mutt does allow you to change the Subject line, in the Compose Menu, just before sending the mail. > Short version: Is it reasonable to expect a piece of software to exist > that establishes a direct connec

Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Mark Fletcher
Hello all As I wrote this I began to consider this is slightly OT for this list; my apologies for not putting OT in the subject line but mutt won't let me go back and edit the subject line. Short version: Is it reasonable to expect a piece of software to exist that establishes a direct connect