Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

2013-06-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 07 iun 13, 11:15:42, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > aptitude sometimes proposes removals of many packages even when this > is not the case. A few days ago, due to the hplip upgrade IIRC, > aptitude proposed to remove hundreds of packages, while apt-get just > proposed to remove libsnmp15 (and i

Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

2013-06-07 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-06-05 07:46:54 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Andrei writes: > > Not necessarily. The package being installed might conflict with them > > (for good reasons) and aptitude doesn't always suggest the option with > > fewer removals. > > In that case Aptitude would be stating that it proposed to

Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

2013-06-05 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 05 Jun 2013, Bob Proulx wrote: > Anthony Campbell wrote: > > If I try to install any package I see a list of some 80 packages which > > were automatically installed and are no longer required. The list > > includes apt, grub-pc-bin, and grub2-common. > > That does not make sense. Probably your

Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

2013-06-05 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 05 Jun 2013, John Hasler wrote: > Andrei writes: > > Not necessarily. The package being installed might conflict with them > > (for good reasons) and aptitude doesn't always suggest the option with > > fewer removals. > > In that case Aptitude would be stating that it proposed to remove them, >

Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

2013-06-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Anthony Campbell wrote: > If I try to install any package I see a list of some 80 packages which > were automatically installed and are no longer required. The list > includes apt, grub-pc-bin, and grub2-common. That does not make sense. Probably your package indexes are messed up. Try running '

Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

2013-06-05 Thread John Hasler
Andrei writes: > Not necessarily. The package being installed might conflict with them > (for good reasons) and aptitude doesn't always suggest the option with > fewer removals. In that case Aptitude would be stating that it proposed to remove them, not merely mentioning that they were no longer r

Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

2013-06-05 Thread Alan Ianson
On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 08:11:31 +0100 Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 04 Jun 2013, Goh Lip wrote: > > > > "Note that in DebianWheezy and beyond tasksel provides and uses > > dummy packages (known as meta packages) to pull required > > dependencies." > > > > but as there are 80 packages (seems heck a l

Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

2013-06-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 04 iun 13, 10:24:28, John Hasler wrote: > > So don't. It's merely informing you that those packages were > automatically installed as dependencies and that no packages depending > on them remain. If you don't want to see the message mark the packages > as manually-installed. Not necessar

Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

2013-06-05 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 04 Jun 2013, Goh Lip wrote: > > "Note that in DebianWheezy and beyond tasksel provides and uses > dummy packages (known as meta packages) to pull required > dependencies." > > but as there are 80 packages (seems heck a lot), be careful to > verify first. So leave them alone till you're sure. >

Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

2013-06-04 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 04 Jun 2013, John Hasler wrote: > Anthony Campbell writes: > > If I try to install any package I see a list of some 80 packages which > > were automatically installed and are no longer required. The list > > includes apt, grub-pc-bin, and grub2-common. > > > Obviously I'm not goint to remove al

Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

2013-06-04 Thread Goh Lip
On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 16:56:15 +0800, Anthony Campbell wrote: If I try to install any package I see a list of some 80 packages which were automatically installed and are no longer required. The list includes apt, grub-pc-bin, and grub2-common. Obviously I'm not goint to remove all these; parti

Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

2013-06-04 Thread John Hasler
Anthony Campbell writes: > If I try to install any package I see a list of some 80 packages which > were automatically installed and are no longer required. The list > includes apt, grub-pc-bin, and grub2-common. > Obviously I'm not goint to remove all these... So don't. It's merely informing yo

Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

2013-06-04 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-06-04 09:56:15 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > If I try to install any package I see a list of some 80 packages which ^^^ > were automatically installed and are no longer required. The list > includes apt, grub-pc-bin, and grub2-common. How? aptitude often wa

Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

2013-06-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 04 iun 13, 09:56:15, Anthony Campbell wrote: > If I try to install any package I see a list of some 80 packages which > were automatically installed and are no longer required. The list > includes apt, grub-pc-bin, and grub2-common. > > Obviously I'm not goint to remove all these; particula

Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

2013-06-04 Thread Alan Ianson
On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:56:15 +0100 Anthony Campbell wrote: > If I try to install any package I see a list of some 80 packages which > were automatically installed and are no longer required. The list > includes apt, grub-pc-bin, and grub2-common. > > Obviously I'm not goint to remove all these; p

Sid wants to remove lots of packages

2013-06-04 Thread Anthony Campbell
If I try to install any package I see a list of some 80 packages which were automatically installed and are no longer required. The list includes apt, grub-pc-bin, and grub2-common. Obviously I'm not goint to remove all these; particulaly losing apt would be a disaster. Anyone else seeing this beh