Re: Shutting down lessens computer life............

2013-12-11 Thread Russell Powers
> On December 11, 2013 at 1:59 AM Andrei POPESCU > wrote: > > > On Lu, 09 dec 13, 17:21:11, Steven Rosenberg wrote: > > I don't see well-used laptops lasting longer than 5 years. Something's > > bound to go wrong. > > What about not well used laptops? Seriously, as far as I recall my > Thinkpad i

Re: Shutting down lessens computer life............

2013-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 dec 13, 17:21:11, Steven Rosenberg wrote: > I don't see well-used laptops lasting longer than 5 years. Something's > bound to go wrong. What about not well used laptops? Seriously, as far as I recall my Thinkpad is already 5 years old. I had to replace the CPU fan twice and the keyboar

Re: Shutting down lessens computer life............

2013-12-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 07:31:28PM -0500, Brad Alexander wrote: > I remember reading a report in the mid-90s stating that one of the biggest > life-shortening properties of powering on and off was heating and cooling > of the hard drive bearings. Now, that said, I do not know how much change > has

Re: Shutting down lessens computer life............

2013-12-10 Thread Brad Alexander
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Steven Rosenberg wrote: > I don't see well-used laptops lasting longer than 5 years. Something's > bound to go wrong. > I still have an old PII Toshiba that still works. Now I haven't booted it up in a couple of years, but everything was still functional.

Re: Shutting down lessens computer life............

2013-12-09 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/9/2013 7:31 PM, Brad Alexander wrote: On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Charlie mailto:aries...@skymesh.com.au>> wrote: On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 15:27:15 +0100 Gian Uberto Lauri sent: > I know that shutting down the machine saves electricity, but heating > and cooling is the mec

Re: Shutting down lessens computer life............

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 20:58 +, Ron Leach wrote: > That was a serious problem with older > Ni-Cad batteries; this and most modern laptops use Ni-MH or Lithium > batteries and, so far, I have not heard that either of those have > problems with recharge cycles. All batteries fail after a while

Re: Shutting down lessens computer life............

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 07:41 +1100, Charlie wrote: > On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 15:27:15 +0100 Gian Uberto Lauri sent: > > > I know that shutting down the machine saves electricity, but heating > > and cooling is the mechanical stress that hits the non-moving > > components of your computer, computer that

Re: Shutting down lessens computer life............

2013-12-09 Thread Steven Rosenberg
I don't see well-used laptops lasting longer than 5 years. Something's bound to go wrong. -- Steven Rosenberg http://stevenrosenberg.net/blog http://blogs.dailynews.com/click -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listm

Re: Shutting down lessens computer life............

2013-12-09 Thread Brad Alexander
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Charlie wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 15:27:15 +0100 Gian Uberto Lauri sent: > > > I know that shutting down the machine saves electricity, but heating > > and cooling is the mechanical stress that hits the non-moving > > components of your computer, computer that

Re: Shutting down lessens computer life............

2013-12-09 Thread Ron Leach
On 09/12/2013 20:41, Charlie wrote: 7 years is not a long life for a laptop, I have heard of others that are still working after 10 years on this list I think. They keyboards on my laptops are pretty worn and they each only have 512 MB RAM but otherwise work as when new but now running Debian Je

Re: Shutting down lessens computer life............

2013-12-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 07:41:48AM +1100, Charlie wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 15:27:15 +0100 Gian Uberto Lauri sent: > > > I know that shutting down the machine saves electricity, but heating > > and cooling is the mechanical stress that hits the non-moving > > components of your computer, comp

Shutting down lessens computer life............

2013-12-09 Thread Charlie
On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 15:27:15 +0100 Gian Uberto Lauri sent: > I know that shutting down the machine saves electricity, but heating > and cooling is the mechanical stress that hits the non-moving > components of your computer, computer that turn off less often live > longer. I wonder if the above i