Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 22/07/2017 à 14:52, Felix Miata a écrit : Pascal Hambourg composed on 2017-07-22 11:03 (UTC+0200): Felix Miata composed: at least one primary is always EXT2 with Grub Legacy and little else, unless the disk is a pure data-only disk, in which case its MBR sector is empty but for the partit

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-22 Thread Felix Miata
Pascal Hambourg composed on 2017-07-22 11:03 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata composed: >> To be clear, in MBR systems I only ever install DOS or OS/2 on a primary >> partition. All other OS go on logicals. Except for one ancient PC that has >> only >> WinXP on it (which I did not install), at least on

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 21/07/2017 à 08:34, Felix Miata a écrit : To be clear, in MBR systems I only ever install DOS or OS/2 on a primary partition. All other OS go on logicals. Except for one ancient PC that has only WinXP on it (which I did not install), at least one primary is always EXT2 with Grub Legacy and li

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 21/07/2017 à 04:11, Felix Miata a écrit : Pascal Hambourg composed on 2017-07-20 23:40 (UTC+0200): Felix Miata composed: Grub Legacy requires no scripts or filesystem mounting to setup, and its menu.lst is magnitudes easier than Grub2's grub.cfg to manually maintain. This is your opini

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-21 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 07/20/2017 11:34 PM, Felix Miata wrote: Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-07-20 2:13 (UTC-0700): Felix Miata wrote: ...I wanted Jessie on sda1 where I keep my menu.lst and keep things simple. "Simple" I find impossible in multiboot of any serious extent. Closest thing there can be to simpl

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-21 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:11:10PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: [cut] OTOH, every Debian kernel installation, plus initrd regenerations, fill my screens with complaints like dpkg: warning: version 'cur' has bad syntax: version number does not start with digit dpkg: warning: version 'prv' has bad s

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-21 Thread Curt
On 2017-07-20, Weaver wrote: > On 2017-07-21 07:29, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> Le 20/07/2017 à 08:51, Curt a écrit : >>> On 2017-07-19, Curt wrote: On 2017-07-19, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : >> Some of you may already know that setting up g

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-20 Thread Felix Miata
Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-07-20 2:13 (UTC-0700): > Felix Miata wrote: > ...I wanted Jessie on sda1 where I keep my > menu.lst and keep things simple. "Simple" I find impossible in multiboot of any serious extent. Closest thing there can be to simple is a master bootloader on a primary part

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-20 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 07/20/2017 02:46 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: You don't have to use the auto-generated grub.cfg. You can write and maintain your own one manually. You can! Good for you! Cheers, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - Intel G3220 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-20 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 07/19/2017 11:33 AM, Felix Miata wrote: Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-07-19 02:30 (UTC-0700): Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can be imposable, I've been thinking about this for awhile now and how to solve this problem that Ubuntu does not have. So I ad

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-20 Thread Felix Miata
Pascal Hambourg composed on 2017-07-20 23:40 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata composed: >> Grub Legacy requires no scripts or filesystem mounting to >> setup, and its menu.lst is magnitudes easier than Grub2's grub.cfg to >> manually >> maintain. > This is your opinion. Grub2 setup can be run without

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-20 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 19/07/2017 à 22:20, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : On 07/19/2017 11:04 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can be imposable, Imposable ? What would impose it ? Debian grub-legacy setup is no

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-20 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 19/07/2017 à 20:33, Felix Miata a écrit : Grub Legacy requires no scripts or filesystem mounting to setup, and its menu.lst is magnitudes easier than Grub2's grub.cfg to manually maintain. This is your opinion. I beg to differ. Once you are used to it, manually maintaining grub.cfg is rath

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-20 Thread Weaver
On 2017-07-21 07:29, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 20/07/2017 à 08:51, Curt a écrit : >> On 2017-07-19, Curt wrote: >>> On 2017-07-19, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : > Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can > be imp

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-20 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 20/07/2017 à 08:51, Curt a écrit : On 2017-07-19, Curt wrote: On 2017-07-19, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can be imposable, Imposable ? What would impose it ? I think he meant

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-19 Thread Curt
On 2017-07-19, Curt wrote: > On 2017-07-19, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : >>> Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can >>> be imposable, >> >> Imposable ? What would impose it ? > I think he meant impossible. In fact, I re

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-19 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 07/19/2017 11:04 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can be imposable, Imposable ? What would impose it ? Debian grub-legacy setup is no longer supported, yet it can still be install

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-19 Thread Curt
On 2017-07-19, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : >> Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can >> be imposable, > > Imposable ? What would impose it ? I think he meant impossible. In fact, I read impossible (and only reread the ph

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-07-19 02:30 (UTC-0700): > Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can > be imposable, I've been thinking about this for awhile now and how to > solve this problem that Ubuntu does not have. > So I added trusty main to my Jessie repos and

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-19 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can be imposable, Imposable ? What would impose it ? (...) Questions or suggestions? One question : why use GRUB legacy ? One suggestion : upgrade.

Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-19 Thread Jimmy Johnson
Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can be imposable, I've been thinking about this for awhile now and how to solve this problem that Ubuntu does not have. So I added trusty main to my Jessie repos and installed trusty grub and trusty grub-common, I had to do a f