Max Nikulin (12024-02-23):
> I am realizing that the following is not an answer to the asked question.
> The thread is no more than useless arguing anyway.
>
> Some ideas that might be useful in close cases:
> - a bunch of filtering options and --output=export as a part of log rotation
> to have s
Max Nikulin writes:
> On 24/02/2024 21:09, Byunghee HWANG wrote:
>>> When I read the question I decided that syslog for auth facility is a
>>> kind of solution.
>> Really i would like to learn more. Can you show a more specific
>> example?
>> Also i'm using Debian (sid).
>
> Install rsyslog and l
On 24/02/2024 21:09, Byunghee HWANG wrote:
When I read the question I decided that syslog for auth facility is a
kind of solution.
Really i would like to learn more. Can you show a more specific example?
Also i'm using Debian (sid).
Install rsyslog and logrotate and read their configuration f
Hellow Max!
Max Nikulin writes:
> On 23/02/2024 17:15, Nicolas George wrote:
>> How do I tell systemd's logging system to keep authentication logs
>> for
>> one year and mail logs for one month?
>
> (...)
>
> P.S.
> When I read the question I decided that syslog for auth facility is a
> kind of
Dnia 2024-02-23, o godz. 15:05:52
Nicholas Geovanis napisał(a):
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024, 2:57 PM Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> > Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > > Makes one wonder why they don't use naive append-only "plain
> > > text" logs (tho with appropriate delimiters (maybe some kind of
> > > CSV) to
Dnia 2024-02-23, o godz. 12:34:34
Dan Ritter napisał(a):
> Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Makes one wonder why they don't use naive append-only "plain text"
> > logs (tho with appropriate delimiters (maybe some kind of CSV) to
> > make searches more reliable than with old-style plain text logs)?
> >
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024, 2:57 PM Dan Ritter wrote:
> Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Makes one wonder why they don't use naive append-only "plain text" logs
> > (tho with appropriate delimiters (maybe some kind of CSV) to make
> > searches more reliable than with old-style plain text logs)?
> >
> > What a
Stefan Monnier wrote:
> Makes one wonder why they don't use naive append-only "plain text" logs
> (tho with appropriate delimiters (maybe some kind of CSV) to make
> searches more reliable than with old-style plain text logs)?
>
> What are the advantages of journald's representation?
> I mean, to
Dnia 2024-02-23, o godz. 10:26:49
Stefan Monnier napisał(a):
> > [13:37:48]cthulhu:/var/log/journal☠ journalctl |dd of=/dev/zero
> > bs=1M 0+15442 records in
> > 0+15442 records out
> > 63643115 bytes (64 MB, 61 MiB) copied, 5,47791 s, 11,6 MB/s
> > du -h /var/log/journal/
> > 337M/var/lo
On 23/02/2024 17:15, Nicolas George wrote:
How do I tell systemd's logging system to keep authentication logs for
one year and mail logs for one month?
I am realizing that the following is not an answer to the asked
question. The thread is no more than useless arguing anyway.
Some ideas tha
> [13:37:48]cthulhu:/var/log/journal☠ journalctl |dd of=/dev/zero bs=1M
> 0+15442 records in
> 0+15442 records out
> 63643115 bytes (64 MB, 61 MiB) copied, 5,47791 s, 11,6 MB/s
> du -h /var/log/journal/
> 337M /var/log/journal/44cf6f547971fc33309d1e9e02e7
> 337M /var/log/journal/
>
> (I've ra
Dnia 2024-02-23, o godz. 14:23:07
Nicolas George napisał(a):
> Mariusz Gronczewski (12024-02-23):
> > Like, really what kind of person gets angry when they get too much
> > details in instruction?
>
> What kind of person writes pages of angry mail when the details are
> not liked?
>
That wou
Mariusz Gronczewski (12024-02-23):
> Like, really what kind of person gets angry when they get too much
> details in instruction?
What kind of person writes pages of angry mail when the details are not
liked?
--
Nicolas George
Dnia 2024-02-23, o godz. 14:09:45
Nicolas George napisał(a):
> Greg Wooledge (12024-02-23):
> > Have you even *read* this mailing list? Most of the people who ask
> > for help here lack experience that you might consider "baby
> > sysadmin" level, and would greatly appreciate the explanations.
Dnia 2024-02-23, o godz. 14:03:50
Nicolas George napisał(a):
> Greg Wooledge (12024-02-23):
> > What was "blind" about his anaylsis? It looked pretty well thought
> > out to me. He showed actual examples of how space-inefficient it
> > is, and provided a theoretical example of how one misbehave
Greg Wooledge (12024-02-23):
> Have you even *read* this mailing list? Most of the people who ask
> for help here lack experience that you might consider "baby sysadmin"
> level, and would greatly appreciate the explanations.
It is usually quite easy to tell the difference by the phrasing and
acc
Dnia 2024-02-23, o godz. 13:48:35
Nicolas George napisał(a):
> Mariusz Gronczewski (12024-02-23):
> > So to say it short: It is horrid.
>
> Generic bashing of systemd in favor of a blind cult of the good old
> ways are not what I am looking for either, and the unbalanced tone of
> your reply m
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 02:03:50PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> When somebody spends one line answering the question and then pages
> “offering an alternative” by explaining things a baby sysadmin would
> already know, I deduce they are not much above the level of baby
> sysadmin themselves, and
Greg Wooledge (12024-02-23):
> What was "blind" about his anaylsis? It looked pretty well thought out
> to me. He showed actual examples of how space-inefficient it is, and
> provided a theoretical example of how one misbehaved service could
> flush out the important logs of well-behaved services
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 01:48:35PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> Mariusz Gronczewski (12024-02-23):
> > So to say it short: It is horrid.
>
> Generic bashing of systemd in favor of a blind cult of the good old ways
> are not what I am looking for either, and the unbalanced tone of your
> reply ma
Mariusz Gronczewski (12024-02-23):
> So to say it short: It is horrid.
Generic bashing of systemd in favor of a blind cult of the good old ways
are not what I am looking for either, and the unbalanced tone of your
reply makes it look like precisely that.
--
Nicolas George
Dnia 2024-02-23, o godz. 13:02:00
Nicolas George napisał(a):
> Mariusz Gronczewski (12024-02-23):
> > That is not a feature systemd's logging have.
>
> That is what it seems, but I would like second opinions.
>
> > You'd have to make a
> > rsyslogd
Mariusz Gronczewski (12024-02-23):
> That is not a feature systemd's logging have.
That is what it seems, but I would like second opinions.
> You'd have to make a
> rsyslogd rule to put it in one directory
Thanks, but my question was about systemd's
Dnia 2024-02-23, o godz. 11:15:29
Nicolas George napisał(a):
> Hi.
>
> It might be an obvious question, but I do not manage to find the
> obvious answer:
>
> How do I tell systemd's logging system to keep authentication logs for
> one year and mail logs for one month?
>
> Regards,
>
That is
Hi.
It might be an obvious question, but I do not manage to find the obvious
answer:
How do I tell systemd's logging system to keep authentication logs for
one year and mail logs for one month?
Regards,
--
Nicolas George
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