Re: backups Was: SSD and HDD

2020-10-13 Thread Dan Ritter
mick crane wrote: > On 2020-10-13 00:46, Dan Ritter wrote: > > mick crane wrote: > > > > > This looks like good advice, thanks Dan and all. > One thing I wonder about if I reboot and change boot order to start windows > is if I might create some confusion on the network as pfsense PC does DHCP >

Re: backups Was: SSD and HDD

2020-10-13 Thread mick crane
On 2020-10-13 00:46, Dan Ritter wrote: mick crane wrote: might I ask a favour for information on accepted wisdom for this stuff ? I being a home user have pfsense on old lenovo between ISP router and switch to PCs another old buster lenovo doing email another Buster PC I do bits of programmi

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-12 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-10-12 15:04, Weaver wrote: On 13-10-2020 07:27, mick crane wrote: I being a home user have pfsense on old lenovo between ISP router and switch to PCs I personally have apf-firewall onboard, and it's hard to beat in my opinion, for ease of config as well as efficiency, but pfsense is

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-12 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-10-12 14:27, mick crane wrote: might I ask a favour for information on accepted wisdom for this stuff ? I being a home user have pfsense on old lenovo between ISP router and switch to PCs another old buster lenovo doing email another Buster PC I do bits of programming on. Windows PC I

backups Was: SSD and HDD

2020-10-12 Thread Dan Ritter
mick crane wrote: > > might I ask a favour for information on accepted wisdom for this stuff ? > I being a home user have pfsense on old lenovo between ISP router and switch > to PCs > another old buster lenovo doing email > another Buster PC I do bits of programming on. > Windows PC I play poker

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-12 Thread Weaver
if I were doing this I'd have an extra >> storage device for redundancy… ] >> >> If I were in your position and still had concerns about write >> endurance I'd probably put everything in LVM with a volume group on >> the SSD and a volume group on the H

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-12 Thread mick crane
ilesystems that got a lot of writes. The use of LVM like this would allow me to change my mind later and move LVs between the SSD and HDD while the machine is online. Plus any time you are thinking of doing multiple filesystems, LVM is a good bet. Plus you might be using LVM anyway for encryption.

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 11 oct 20, 19:06:12, Linux-Fan wrote: > > Another common option is using the `relatime` mount option for SSDs, but I > do not configure this explicitly on my systems. According to mount(8) 'relatime' is the default since Linux 2.6.30. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFr

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-10-11 09:45, mick crane wrote: Bearing in mind I rarely do installs and when I do usually let the installer do its thing. Got a PC that has SSD and a HDD. I see that you are supposed to avoid writes to SSD for longevity. Is it a matter of putting entries in fstab for /swap /var /home to

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 20:25 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2020-10-11 13:48 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 19:47 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > > > "Percentage Used Endurance Indicator" > > > > Where do you see that? > > For a SATA SSD: > > # smartctl -l devstat $SSD >

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2020-10-11 13:48 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 19:47 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: >> "Percentage Used Endurance Indicator" > > Where do you see that? For a SATA SSD: # smartctl -l devstat $SSD Cheers, Sven

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Darac Marjal
On 11/10/2020 18:48, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 19:47 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: >> "Percentage Used Endurance Indicator" > Where do you see that? If you have an NVMe device, you can run "nvme smart-log /dev/nvme" (or "nvme smart-log /dev/nvmen" if you have multiple namespaces o

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 01:48:48PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 19:47 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > > "Percentage Used Endurance Indicator" > > Where do you see that? Usually a SMART attribute like "233 Media Wearout Indicator" or if that isn't available devices ofte

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Andy Smith
f writes. The use of LVM like this would allow me to change my mind later and move LVs between the SSD and HDD while the machine is online. Plus any time you are thinking of doing multiple filesystems, LVM is a good bet. Plus you might be using LVM anyway for encryption. But again I can't

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 19:47 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > "Percentage Used Endurance Indicator" Where do you see that? -Jim P.

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2020-10-11 17:45 +0100, mick crane wrote: > Bearing in mind I rarely do installs and when I do usually let the > installer do its thing. > Got a PC that has SSD and a HDD. I see that you are supposed to avoid > writes to SSD for longevity. No, you are not. I put an SSD into my desktop compute

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Peter Ehlert
I don't use the automatic install, I don't like what it chooses. I use the manual method to set things up exactly as desired. to answer your question you can install on any available drive, SSD or HDD... use or create some or all of your partitions wherever you like. your new fstab will point t

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Linux-Fan
mick crane writes: Bearing in mind I rarely do installs and when I do usually let the installer do its thing. Got a PC that has SSD and a HDD. I see that you are supposed to avoid writes to SSD for longevity. Is it a matter of putting entries in fstab for /swap /var /home to suitably format

SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread mick crane
Bearing in mind I rarely do installs and when I do usually let the installer do its thing. Got a PC that has SSD and a HDD. I see that you are supposed to avoid writes to SSD for longevity. Is it a matter of putting entries in fstab for /swap /var /home to suitably formatted partitions on HDD ?

Re: UEFI install (was: Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD)

2012-08-12 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 11. August 2012 schrieb Greg Madden: > Not sure about all the: > > - GPT + UEFI > > - MBR + UEFI > > - GPT + BIOS > > I just installed Wheezy and it seemed to install just like any other > install I have done. Ah, so you are not sure its using UEFI at all? Do you have grub-pc or gr

Re: UEFI install (was: Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD)

2012-08-11 Thread L V Gandhi
9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dale wrote: >> > > > On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote: >> > > >> Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in >> > > >> ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD? >> > > >> Kindly give li

Re: UEFI install (was: Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD)

2012-08-11 Thread Greg Madden
Gandhi wrote: > > > >> Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in > > > >> ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD? > > > >> Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux. > > > > > > > > You don

UEFI install (was: Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD)

2012-08-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
d squeeze in > > >> ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD? > > >> Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux. > > > > > > You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the > > > way you like. Linux installers

Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD

2012-08-09 Thread L V Gandhi
oot system of windows and squeeze in >> >> ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD? >> >> Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux. >> > >> > You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the way >> > you like. Linux install

Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD

2012-08-09 Thread Greg Madden
On Thursday 09 August 2012 4:37:05 am L V Gandhi wrote: > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dale wrote: > > On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote: > >> Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in > >> ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD

Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD

2012-08-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/12 08:37 AM, L V Gandhi wrote: On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dale wrote: On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote: Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD? Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux

Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD

2012-08-09 Thread L V Gandhi
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dale wrote: > On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote: >> >> Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in >> ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD? >> Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux

Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD

2012-08-08 Thread Gary Dale
On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote: Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD? Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux. You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the way you like.

Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD

2012-08-08 Thread L V Gandhi
Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD? Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux. -- L V Gandhi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troubl