Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-29 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > You need a more compliant girlfriend. Lucy Liu-bot comes to mind. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Dated_a_Robot wtf did I just waste fifteen minutes reading? You do not point at wikipedia articles citing toons. Geez. It may have been an enjoyable episod

Re: Stupid question (was Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges")

2007-09-29 Thread s. keeling
Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I don't like it, but I also don't like reloading. :-) Ah, ya puss! Burn a backup CD and do it. Think of all those doors opening up for you. You can try anything! =[8]-) -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)ht

Re: Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-29 Thread Moderation Robot
your, The Moderation Robot. --- Follows the first few lines of your article From: Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Subject: Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges" Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:20:24 +0200 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PR

Re: Stupid question (was Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges")

2007-09-29 Thread s. keeling
Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I don't like it, but I also don't like reloading. :-) Ah, ya puss! Burn a backup CD and do it. Think of all those doors opening up for you. You can try anything! =[8]-) -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)ht

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-29 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > You need a more compliant girlfriend. Lucy Liu-bot comes to mind. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Dated_a_Robot wtf did I just waste fifteen minutes reading? You do not point at wikipedia articles citing toons. Geez. It may have been an enjoyable episod

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-27 Thread Mike McCarty
Mike McCarty wrote: These have (nearly) all been posted before, but some have requested that they be reposted. [snip] Well, the story is under the thread about GNOME and multiple queues on printers. Thanks all for the helpful comments and such. Michelle, I believe we've met before. You jumpe

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-27 Thread Joey Hess
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > One of the later steps is to upgrade from latest sarge to latest-etch. > Etch is now at r1. The tested upgrade path is r0. Since so much > changed between r0 and r1, there may be problems; I don't know. Seems unlikely to me. We're talking about less change in the 4.1r1

Re: Stupid question (was Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges")

2007-09-27 Thread Michael Marsh
On 9/27/07, Owen Heisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I started using Linux with FC2 (or FC3 maybe) and was just thrilled with it > (with Linux, really). Then I got annoyed with FC's bleeding edge software and > also decided that I shouldn't have to reinstall every 6 months in order to > stay > c

Re: Stupid question (was Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges")

2007-09-27 Thread Owen Heisler
On Wed, 2007.09.26 12:52, Mike McCarty wrote: > Fedora I would not recommend to anyone not interested in > eternally fiddling with the machine, broken interfaces, > and churn. It's for people whose hobbies include fiddling > with new installs and reloading. > > I'm not into that, either, for these

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/26/07 21:47, Charlie wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, Douglas A. Tutty shared this with us all: >> --} On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 11:35:04AM +1000, Charlie wrote: >> --} > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, Douglas A. Tutty shared this with us all: >> --} > >--} One

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/26/07 21:32, s. keeling wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> You need a more compliant girlfriend. Lucy Liu-bot comes to mind. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Dated_a_Robot > > wtf did I just waste fifteen minutes reading? You do n

Re: Stupid question (was Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges")

2007-09-26 Thread s. keeling
Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I don't like it, but I also don't like reloading. :-) Ah, ya puss! Burn a backup CD and do it. Think of all those doors opening up for you. You can try anything! =[8]-) -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)ht

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Charlie
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, Douglas A. Tutty shared this with us all: >--} On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 11:35:04AM +1000, Charlie wrote: >--} > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, Douglas A. Tutty shared this with us all: >--} > >--} One of the later steps is to upgrade from latest sarge to > latest-etch. --} > >--} Etch is

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > You need a more compliant girlfriend. Lucy Liu-bot comes to mind. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Dated_a_Robot wtf did I just waste fifteen minutes reading? You do not point at wikipedia articles citing toons. Geez. It may have been an enjoyable episod

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 11:35:04AM +1000, Charlie wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, Douglas A. Tutty shared this with us all: > >--} One of the later steps is to upgrade from latest sarge to latest-etch. > >--} Etch is now at r1. ?The tested upgrade path is r0. ?Since so much > >--} changed between r0

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Charlie
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, Douglas A. Tutty shared this with us all: >--} One of the later steps is to upgrade from latest sarge to latest-etch. >--} Etch is now at r1.  The tested upgrade path is r0.  Since so much >--} changed between r0 and r1, there may be problems; I don't know. >--} I have install

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Kent West
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Since in the process of upgrading you'll end up replacing everything anyway, it may end up easier and faster to just do a reinstall. Since the gf is likely to install Windows anyway, you might try persuading her to leave a goodly chunk of drive space unpartitioned, a

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
Mike, Right now you're at Sarge. If you do an upgrade, consider: One of the first steps is to upgrade your Sarge. That will likely be a big download with the chance of breakage. One of the later steps is to upgrade from latest sarge to latest-etch. Etch is now at r1. The tested upgrade path i

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread p
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 04:26:34PM -0600, bent. wrote: > On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 09:33:43PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > __deletia__ > > > > Another issue which has never been posted: She installed more > > memory. She had 512 MB RAM, and now has 1.5 Gig. Unfortunately, > > Debian seems only to re

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread bent.
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 09:33:43PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: __deletia__ > > Another issue which has never been posted: She installed more > memory. She had 512 MB RAM, and now has 1.5 Gig. Unfortunately, > Debian seems only to recognize just under 1.0 Gig. I haven't > looked on the web for a fix

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Okay, I think a lot of your problems would be alleviated by an upgrade to etch. Again, this is all predicated on the idea that she will give you a little more time to do this stuff. Ok. head over to www.debian.org and read up (at least browse through) the upgrad

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 12:45:39PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: How current is her Debian install? >>> From stable, but a little old. >> From what you're saying I think she is running oldstable (sarge) and not >> stable (etch). It could make a big difference as etch has

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/26/07 13:03, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 12:45:39PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: >> Andrei Popescu wrote: > How current is her Debian install? From stable, but a little old. >>> From what you're saying I think sh

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 12:58:20AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:50:44 -0500 > Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > [snipped the on-topic stuff] > > > > Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. > > > Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 12:45:39PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: How current is her Debian install? >>> From stable, but a little old. >> From what you're saying I think she is running oldstable (sarge) and not >> stable (etch). It could make a big difference as etch has

Re: Stupid question (was Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges")

2007-09-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: I know how to do the necessary admin with FC. Debian I'm much less capable with. I wouldn't call FC "turnkey". But it uses a completely different set of admin tools. Why did you push Debian on her, when your expertise lies in FC? "Push" is a four letter word :-) I got her

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Andrei Popescu wrote: How current is her Debian install? From stable, but a little old. From what you're saying I think she is running oldstable (sarge) and not stable (etch). It could make a big difference as etch has kernel 2.6.18 as opposed to 2.6.8 (or the default 2.4). From stable a

Stupid question (was Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges")

2007-09-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/26/07 11:58, Mike McCarty wrote: > Wayne Topa wrote: >> Mike McCarty([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: >>> >>> Ok, so how does one get a newer kernel, install it, and get >>> all the memory available? >>> >> >> >> That question indicat

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 11:53:03AM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > I'd have to check. I know it was installed within the last > couple of years. Actually, looking back in my e-mail records, > it was probably in Sep 2005. I don't think it has been updated > much if any since then. I updated her Thunde

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 09:33:43PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: My GF installed a USB mouse, and her keyboard went away. They work together with THE OTHER OS. IIRC (it's been a while) using a debug startup allows us to get up to a root login, and look around, but using ^D f

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Gabriel Parrondo wrote: El mié, 26-09-2007 a las 01:17 -0500, Mike McCarty escribió: Gabriel Parrondo wrote: El mar, 25-09-2007 a las 21:33 -0500, Mike McCarty escribió: [snip of something I can't help with] She can't associate multiple queues with a single printer, but there is already a

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:50:44 -0500, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Oops! I somehow neglected to specify... PS/2 style keyboard PS/2 style mouse Keyboard works PS/2 style keyboard USB style mouse Keyboard stops working I am afraid I cannot reproduc

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Wayne Topa wrote: Mike McCarty([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Ok, so how does one get a newer kernel, install it, and get all the memory available? That question indicates, to me at least, that you don't know as much about Debian as I thought you did. That's not your fault, I

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Nate Bargmann wrote: * Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Sep 26 03:22 -0500]: Ron Johnson wrote: On 09/25/07 21:33, Mike McCarty wrote: [snip] USB keyboard? (I've always been leery of them, because of the mutually-exclusive HID and {o,u}chi drivers. Oops! I somehow neglected to specif

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:50:44 -0500, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Oops! I somehow neglected to specify... PS/2 style keyboard PS/2 > style mouse Keyboard works > PS/2 style keyboard USB style mouse Keyboard stops working I am afraid I cannot reproduce this. I have two machi

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Wayne Topa
Mike McCarty([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 09/25/07 21:33, Mike McCarty wrote: > > [snip] > >> USB keyboard? (I've always been leery of them, because of the >> mutually-exclusive HID and {o,u}chi drivers. > > Oops! I somehow neglected to specify... <>

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:18:11 -0500 Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Sep 26 03:22 -0500]: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 09/25/07 21:33, Mike McCarty wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > >> USB keyboard? (I've always been leery of them, because of the > >>

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 09:33:43PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > My GF installed a USB mouse, and her keyboard went away. > They work together with THE OTHER OS. IIRC (it's been > a while) using a debug startup allows us to get up to > a root login, and look around, but using ^D from there > makes t

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-26 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Sep 26 03:22 -0500]: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 09/25/07 21:33, Mike McCarty wrote: > > [snip] > >> USB keyboard? (I've always been leery of them, because of the >> mutually-exclusive HID and {o,u}chi drivers. > > Oops! I somehow neglected to specify... > P

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-25 Thread Gabriel Parrondo
El mié, 26-09-2007 a las 01:17 -0500, Mike McCarty escribió: > Gabriel Parrondo wrote: > > El mar, 25-09-2007 a las 21:33 -0500, Mike McCarty escribió: > > [snip of something I can't help with] > >> She can't associate multiple queues with a single printer, > >> but there is already another thread

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-25 Thread Mike McCarty
Gabriel Parrondo wrote: El mar, 25-09-2007 a las 21:33 -0500, Mike McCarty escribió: [snip of something I can't help with] She can't associate multiple queues with a single printer, but there is already another thread about that. There is currently no work around, but there is hope that using t

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-25 Thread Gabriel Parrondo
El mar, 25-09-2007 a las 21:33 -0500, Mike McCarty escribió: [snip of something I can't help with] > > She can't associate multiple queues with a single printer, > but there is already another thread about that. There is > currently no work around, but there is hope that using the > CUPS I/F direc

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-25 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:50:44 -0500 Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: [snipped the on-topic stuff] > > Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. > > Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! > > Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. > Teach a man to fish, and

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-25 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: On 09/25/07 21:33, Mike McCarty wrote: [snip] USB keyboard? (I've always been leery of them, because of the mutually-exclusive HID and {o,u}chi drivers. Oops! I somehow neglected to specify... PS/2 style keyboard PS/2 style mouse Keyboard works PS/2 style keyboard USB

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-25 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:10:17 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > USB keyboard? (I've always been leery of them, because of the > mutually-exclusive HID and {o,u}chi drivers. I use a Dell USB keyboard, scavenged from an old desktop. It "just works": > usb 1-1: new full speed

Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/25/07 21:33, Mike McCarty wrote: > These have (nearly) all been posted before, but some have requested > that they be reposted. If you don't like reading stuff > YET AGAIN, then just skip this message, please. > > My GF installed a USB mouse, an

Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

2007-09-25 Thread Mike McCarty
These have (nearly) all been posted before, but some have requested that they be reposted. If you don't like reading stuff YET AGAIN, then just skip this message, please. My GF installed a USB mouse, and her keyboard went away. They work together with THE OTHER OS. IIRC (it's been a while) using