Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-03 Thread Oki DZ
Ilya Martynov wrote: > It is called read-only because user programs that work at level of > files and directories can't write on mounted filesystem. Tools that > mount filesystem work on lower level. I have visited the web page you pointed out the other day; I have no conclusion (neither did they,

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-03 Thread Oki DZ
Ilya Martynov wrote: > It is called read-only because user programs that work at level of > files and directories can't write on mounted filesystem. Tools that > mount filesystem work on lower level. I guess the guys at www.reiserfs.org should create a better startup message; currently, it says (a

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-03 Thread Ilya Martynov
>> I'm not sure about reiserfs but at least ext3 does replays logs on >> read only filesystem. I'm going to check if it so with reiserfs. >> >> Here http://kt.zork.net/kernel-traffic/kt20010119_103.html#1 you can >> find some discussion why on jornaling filesystems log can be replayed >> even if

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-02 Thread Oki DZ
Ilya Martynov wrote: > I'm not sure about reiserfs but at least ext3 does replays logs on > read only filesystem. I'm going to check if it so with reiserfs. > > Here http://kt.zork.net/kernel-traffic/kt20010119_103.html#1 you can > find some discussion why on jornaling filesystems log can be repla

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-02 Thread mdevin
Here is what I did step by step on 2 separate computers to change over to reiserfs. First of all you must have a partition large enough to hold everything. Lets say you have 4 partitions and part4 is big enough to hold everything. Lets say the 4 partitions are mounted as /boot, swap, /, /var. Y

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-02 Thread Ilya Martynov
>> I'm sorry but what is the problem with replaying log on read only >> filesystem? It should be readonly only for user's programs that use >> mounted filesystem. OD> Well, my understanding is that if you have a read-only filesytem, then OD> you wouldn't be able to write anyting to it. Having a t

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-02 Thread Oki DZ
Andrew Pollock wrote: > Using LILO? I use Grub. Thanks for the info, I'm going to lookup the man page for the identical feature. Oki

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-02 Thread Oki DZ
Ilya Martynov wrote: > I'm sorry but what is the problem with replaying log on read only > filesystem? It should be readonly only for user's programs that use > mounted filesystem. Well, my understanding is that if you have a read-only filesytem, then you wouldn't be able to write anyting to it. H

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-02 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Wed, 2 May 2001, Oki DZ wrote: > William Leese wrote: > > oh, i didn't backup /proc and /tmp because tar spewed out a few error > > messages. but from what i can recall /proc is created by the kernel(?) and > > for /tmp the directory just needs to be recreated, correct? > > You'd need to recre

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-02 Thread Ilya Martynov
OD> BTW, I have all my partitions running on reiserfs; problem is, when the OD> system booted up, / partition is always mounted read-only, so that the OD> transaction log is always replayed on, well, read-only filesystem. I OD> have done update-rc.d -f checkfs.sh remove, so that fsck wouldn't be O

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-02 Thread Oki DZ
William Leese wrote: > oh, i didn't backup /proc and /tmp because tar spewed out a few error > messages. but from what i can recall /proc is created by the kernel(?) and > for /tmp the directory just needs to be recreated, correct? You'd need to recreate the /proc directory; the system uses it as

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-01 Thread Brandon High
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 09:06:04AM +1000, Brian May wrote: > > "Ethan" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ethan> cp -R is a horribly wrong thing to use for this task, it > Ethan> will destroy symlinks and hardlinks. turning them into > Ethan> duplicate files. use cpi

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-01 Thread Peter Schüller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > hdparms and reiser, havent done this yet myself. I would think it would > work fine though. I dont think hdparms cares whats actually on the disk. I've been doing hdoarm -d 1 on my disk holding a couple of heavily-used ReiserFS partitions. No troub

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-01 Thread William Leese
> $ which tar > /bin/tar > $ ldd /bin/tar > /lib/libNoVersion.so.1 => /lib/libNoVersion.so.1 (0x40015000) > libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001f000) > /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) > > Debian is probably similar, so most likely /lib and its contents w

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-01 Thread Matthew Dalton
William Leese wrote: > > > > 3) rm -rf /usr, /lib.. etc after mounting the vfat partition which also > > > contains a copy of /sbin and /bin untarred. > > > > Hmmm... aren't there important things in /lib, namely libc? > > would that be needed for running mkreiserfs, tar and perhaps a few other g

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-01 Thread William Leese
> > 3) rm -rf /usr, /lib.. etc after mounting the vfat partition which also > > contains a copy of /sbin and /bin untarred. > > Hmmm... aren't there important things in /lib, namely libc? would that be needed for running mkreiserfs, tar and perhaps a few other gnu tools? because thats all that is

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-01 Thread Matthew Dalton
William Leese wrote: > also, is it 'safe' to use hdparm when having reiserfs partitions? If you used it with ext2 partitions, I don't see why using it with reiserfs would be a problem. It's all disk access. > I'll be doing the following: > > 1) backup each dir and its subdirs with tar (tar cf /

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-01 Thread Brian May
> "Ethan" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ethan> cp -R is a horribly wrong thing to use for this task, it Ethan> will destroy symlinks and hardlinks. turning them into Ethan> duplicate files. use cpio or tar. or cp -a will preserve everything, too, I think. I often

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-01 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 01:54:58PM -0400, Ron Bettle wrote: > You will need the reiserFS utils, get these rom reisers site. > > Its not difficult more time consuming than anything. What needs to happen is > this. Say your /usr is it own partition. You need a 'spare' partition that is > as big as

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-01 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 03:38:54PM -0400, Ron Bettle wrote: > Sounds fool proof(your plan that is). This depends on how much disk spaces you have. If you do not install X programs, 500MB is sufficient for Linux. I would rather make 500MB worth extra space by reorganizing current system and do no

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-01 Thread William Leese
On Tuesday 01 May 2001 21:38, Ron Bettle wrote: > Sounds fool proof(your plan that is). > > hdparms and reiser, havent done this yet myself. I would think it would > work fine though. I dont think hdparms cares whats actually on the disk. i think the same, but better safe than sorry :) > heh rm -

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-01 Thread Ron Bettle
Sounds fool proof(your plan that is). hdparms and reiser, havent done this yet myself. I would think it would work fine though. I dont think hdparms cares whats actually on the disk. heh rm -fr the directories before copyin, even with a tar backup would scare me =). Hope it works for you let us

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-01 Thread DvB
http://www.reiserfs.com/install.html William Leese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm considering moving my partitions to ReiserFS. I'll not be using lilo, instead I'm using boot floppies. So, I can safely move all my partitions over to ReiserFS. I'm aware that I have to compile a kernel

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-01 Thread William Leese
> not exactly efficient, but simple enough to not make any large mistakes.. > (i hope, but if something goes seriously wrong i still have everything in > tarballs on the vfat partition) oh, i didn't backup /proc and /tmp because tar spewed out a few error messages. but from what i can recall /pro

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-01 Thread William Leese
On Tuesday 01 May 2001 19:54, Ron Bettle wrote: > You will need the reiserFS utils, get these rom reisers site. is there any reason why i should not use the packaged reiserFS utils in Sid? also, is it 'safe' to use hdparm when having reiserfs partitions? I'll be doing the following: 1) backup e

Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-01 Thread Ron Bettle
You will need the reiserFS utils, get these rom reisers site. Its not difficult more time consuming than anything. What needs to happen is this. Say your /usr is it own partition. You need a 'spare' partition that is as big as /usr. Then you unmount the 'spare' format it as reiser (mkreiserfs /

ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-01 Thread William Leese
I'm considering moving my partitions to ReiserFS. I'll not be using lilo, instead I'm using boot floppies. So, I can safely move all my partitions over to ReiserFS. I'm aware that I have to compile a kernel with ReiserFS support but apart from that I have no clue how to create the ReiserFS par