Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 iul 12, 22:30:03, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > Well, ext3 is already entering the bitrot phase of the bathtub curve. > OTOH, since it doesn't do delayed allocations like xfs and ext4, it is > supposed to be safer against sudden power loss. Which is quite unlikely on a laptop ;

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 09 Jul 2012, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 7/9/2012 12:38 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Sun, 08 Jul 2012, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> EXT3 should be fine. Use data=journal if you want maximum filesystem > > > > I'd recommend staying away from ext3 in data=journal mode, unless yo

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-09 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/9/2012 12:38 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 08 Jul 2012, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> EXT3 should be fine. Use data=journal if you want maximum filesystem > > I'd recommend staying away from ext3 in data=journal mode, unless you hear > the opposite from Ted T'so. > > AFAIK, nob

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-09 Thread Nick Lidakis
On Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 11:43:00PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > Stan Hoeppener gave you good advice. Take it. > > Hobbyists waste a lot of time tweaking systems because that's their > hobby. Any SSD is going to be faster than your old HD. And unless > your life is measured in milliseconds, you won't

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 08 Jul 2012, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > EXT3 should be fine. Use data=journal if you want maximum filesystem I'd recommend staying away from ext3 in data=journal mode, unless you hear the opposite from Ted T'so. AFAIK, nobody upstream pays much (any?) attention to ext3 data=journal, you'll b

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-08 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/8/2012 9:32 PM, Nick Lidakis wrote: > On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 01:02:47AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> On 7/4/2012 4:15 PM, Nick Lidakis wrote: >> >>> Stan, you gave me rant because you assumed my computer case has lots of blue >>> LEDs. You can try again or just don't bother. >> >> I gave yo

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-08 Thread Gary Dale
On 03/07/12 07:49 AM, Nick Lidakis wrote: I've decided to replace the failing hard disk on my Debian Thinpad with an SSD. As I use the laptop in a harsh mobile environment, I decided to get and SSD. This one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167122 Then, I decided to Goog

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-08 Thread Nick Lidakis
On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 01:02:47AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 7/4/2012 4:15 PM, Nick Lidakis wrote: > > > Stan, you gave me rant because you assumed my computer case has lots of blue > > LEDs. You can try again or just don't bother. > > I gave you all of the information you need. Do you fe

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-05 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/5/2012 5:17 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 05 Jul 2012, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> Any "proper" sysadmin also knows that end users want and need the short >> simple answer/solution, the one that is "good enough" to get the job >> done, even if it's not the "optimal" solution. T

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 05 Jul 2012, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Any "proper" sysadmin also knows that end users want and need the short > simple answer/solution, the one that is "good enough" to get the job > done, even if it's not the "optimal" solution. They don't want to be > bogged down with the technical details

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-05 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/4/2012 10:14 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, 04 Jul 2012, Nick Lidakis wrote: >>> Once the OP asked about "alignment" I knew he needed a dose... >> >> I don't need a "dose", thank you. All my questions are valid and you did > > Indeed, you don't need any dose of reality, and

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-05 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/4/2012 5:42 PM, green wrote: > Nick Lidakis wrote at 2012-07-04 16:15 -0500: >> I'm not a tweaker; I need to get work done on my laptop. Also, I need the >> drive to perform reliably for as long as possible. My data is important to me >> and I try to use my computer hardware for as long as pos

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-04 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/4/2012 4:15 PM, Nick Lidakis wrote: > Stan, you gave me rant because you assumed my computer case has lots of blue > LEDs. You can try again or just don't bother. I gave you all of the information you need. Do you feel you are missing necessary information? -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 04 Jul 2012, Nick Lidakis wrote: > > Once the OP asked about "alignment" I knew he needed a dose... > > I don't need a "dose", thank you. All my questions are valid and you did Indeed, you don't need any dose of reality, and your questions are valid. Any proper sysadmin knows of alignmen

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-04 Thread green
Nick Lidakis wrote at 2012-07-04 16:15 -0500: > I'm not a tweaker; I need to get work done on my laptop. Also, I need the > drive to perform reliably for as long as possible. My data is important to me > and I try to use my computer hardware for as long as possible --not > subscribing to the idea o

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-04 Thread Nick Lidakis
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 01:03:34AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > People often need to be presented with a healthy dose of realism--what > you call "harsh". > > Once the OP asked about "alignment" I knew he needed a dose... I don't need a "dose", thank you. All my questions are valid and you did

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-03 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/3/2012 10:22 PM, T o n g wrote: > On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:32:45 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> If you fall into camp #2, well, >> you'll continue wasting massive amounts of time trying to figure out how >> to "perfectly" setup your SSD. > > That's kind of harsh. Look around. The world isn

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-03 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/3/2012 6:49 AM, Nick Lidakis wrote: > I've decided to replace the failing hard disk on my Debian Thinpad with an > SSD. As I use the laptop in a harsh mobile environment, I decided to get and > SSD. This one: > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167122 > > Then, I decide

Re: Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-03 Thread GeraldC
On Tuesday, July 03, 2012 09:49:17 PM Nick Lidakis wrote: > I've decided to replace the failing hard disk on my Debian Thinpad with an > SSD. As I use the laptop in a harsh mobile environment, I decided to get > and SSD. This one: > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167122 >

Current SSD setup recommendations for laptop with Debian

2012-07-03 Thread Nick Lidakis
I've decided to replace the failing hard disk on my Debian Thinpad with an SSD. As I use the laptop in a harsh mobile environment, I decided to get and SSD. This one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167122 Then, I decided to Google SSD in relation to formatting, partitions

Re: Recommendations for Laptop

1999-11-05 Thread Mike Werner
Charles Lewis wrote: > Speaking of laptops, I have a Compaq Presario 1920 that I have been dreaming > for a long time of installing Debian on it, but I've been too chicken. > Anyone else had a successfuly experience with one of these? See http://members.xoom.com/joey/linux.htm Seems to have worke

Re: Recommendations for Laptop

1999-11-05 Thread Charles Lewis
Speaking of laptops, I have a Compaq Presario 1920 that I have been dreaming for a long time of installing Debian on it, but I've been too chicken. Anyone else had a successfuly experience with one of these? === Charles Lewis, Director of Administrative Comp

Re: Recommendations for Laptop

1999-11-05 Thread Martin Fluch
On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 05 Nov 1999, Andrew Clark wrote: > > I would like to get a laptop and run Debian on it. Does anyone have > > any recommendations for machines/manufactures to buy or avoid? > > > > Regards, Andrew Clark. IBM ThinkPads are marvelous ... I by myself

Re: Recommendations for Laptop

1999-11-05 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 05 Nov 1999, Andrew Clark wrote: > I would like to get a laptop and run Debian on it. Does anyone have > any recommendations for machines/manufactures to buy or avoid? > > Regards, Andrew Clark. > I'm using a Toshiba Satellite 4000CDT which is working very well; in fact I use it in place of a