On 23. October 2005 at 7:53PM -0700,
Andy Streich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> AFAIK, there is not a single vendor of PC's that provides a
> robust system out of the box that includes a ready-to-go
> backup/recovery procedure. It's always something left to the
> user. It's like selling a
On Monday 24 October 2005 12:10, Andy Streich wrote:
>On Sunday 23 October 2005 10:20 pm, Steve Lamb wrote:
>> > AFAIK, there is not a single vendor of PC's that provides a robust
>> > system out of the box that includes a ready-to-go backup/recovery
>> > procedure. It's always something left to th
On Sunday 23 October 2005 10:20 pm, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > AFAIK, there is not a single vendor of PC's that provides a robust system
> > out of the box that includes a ready-to-go backup/recovery procedure.
> > It's always something left to the user. It's like selling a car
> > without a spare an
Paul Johnson wrote:
>On Saturday 22 October 2005 03:57 pm, Ian Cavnar wrote:
>
>
>>I'm hopingthat you mean 60 and 80 GB, as 140MB is nowhere near enough to
>>install Debian and have anything useful for a newb on there.
>>
>>
>
>Not true. Just depends on the newbie's situation. Case in poin
Andy Streich wrote:
> AFAIK, there is not a single vendor of PC's that provides a robust system out
> of the box that includes a ready-to-go backup/recovery procedure. It's
> always something left to the user. It's like selling a car without a spare
> and a jack.
It's a hardware issue.
On Sunday 23 October 2005 07:53 pm, Andy Streich wrote:
> On Sunday 23 October 2005 06:27 pm, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > This is a straw-man argument. Anybody who actually cares about their
> > data keeps a good set of backups anyway.
>
> Then you are not familiar with the legions of PC users who kno
On Sunday 23 October 2005 06:27 pm, Paul Johnson wrote:
> This is a straw-man argument. Anybody who actually cares about their data
> keeps a good set of backups anyway.
Then you are not familiar with the legions of PC users who know nothing of
making backups, care a lot about their data, and on
On Friday 21 October 2005 06:45 pm, Greg wrote:
> It worked, sort of.
>
> Thanks to all for the advice, including the kind I didn't listen to.
> The dual boot stet up fine. However, during the Debian install, I
> accidently skipped over the part to install the desktop environment,
> print server,
On Friday 21 October 2005 04:39 pm, Marty wrote:
> Antony Gelberg wrote:
> > He is new to Debian but sounds like he has a decent understanding of
> > PCs. If he is stupid enough to delete his Windows partition during the
> > install, it will certainly be the kind of mistake he learns from. :)
> >
On Saturday 22 October 2005 03:57 pm, Ian Cavnar wrote:
> I'm hopingthat you mean 60 and 80 GB, as 140MB is nowhere near enough to
> install Debian and have anything useful for a newb on there.
Not true. Just depends on the newbie's situation. Case in point, I switched
because I couldn't stand
On Friday 21 October 2005 12:02 pm, Greg wrote:
> I've sorted for this topic what wasn't able to find information on my
> setup.
Didn't try too hard, eh? Windows ME and Windows 95 are identical from a
booting perspective.
http://ursine.ca/cgi-bin/dwww?type=file&location=/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en
Greg wrote:
I'm a noob to Debian but I'm ready to install Debian to my current
machine. (PIII, 512MB Ram, 2 HDs; 60 MB - main and 80 MB secondary).
The first HD contains WinME (don't laugh) and the second will contain
Debian in one partition and Windows files (mp3s, JPEGs) in the other.
I've al
Kent West wrote:
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Under what conditions can I copy data under X and paste with gpm and
viceversa, with just the mouse strokes?
I don't believe you can. I just tried selecting text in X, switching to
VT1, and pasting with my middle button. Nothing happened. So I selecte
Kent West wrote:
> 3) This list generally discourages top-posting (putting your reply about
> the text of the message to which you're replying). Interspersed
> contextual replies are preferred...
Understood. Etiquette is import.
Again, thanks for the help.
Greg
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Greg wrote:
>THank you for you insight on this. FYI, I was able to make this work.
>However, when I go into aptitude and look at packages to be removed, it
>shows gpm. I also recall an error message that stated something to the
>affect that gpm was obsolete and would be reomoved from the install
I installed it and it works, however, I have a few issues. I can't get
my linksys wireless card to work (WMP54G), but I can get on the net
when I run cat5 from my NIC directly to rounter. (I have both a
wireless card and NIC)
Also, I installed gphoto2 but the system won't recongnize my camera.
W
No prob. Have you installed it yet?
Greg wrote:
Yes, GB not MB. My bad.
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Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Under what conditions can I copy data under X and paste with gpm and
> viceversa, with just the mouse strokes?
>
I don't believe you can. I just tried selecting text in X, switching to
VT1, and pasting with my middle button. Nothing happened. So I selected
text in VT1, the
I'm hopingthat you mean 60 and 80 GB, as 140MB is nowhere near enough to
install Debian and have anything useful for a newb on there.
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Greg wrote:
Okay. I played with some of the mouse settings and was able to get
into X but mouse wouldn't work. I googled some and found this from
Kent West;
If you're in X, press Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get to the second virtual
terminal;
if you're not in X, you're fine where you are.
"apt-get install
Greg wrote:
>"apt-get install gpm"
>Tell gpm that your mouse is on "/dev/psaux", of type "imps2", and to
>repeat "raw".
>
I have since learned that the "officially" proper repeat type is "ms3".
>If you have a USB mouse, the
>location will be "/dev/input/mice", but you also have to have USB
>suppo
Okay. I played with some of the mouse settings and was able to get
into X but mouse wouldn't work. I googled some and found this from
Kent West;
If you're in X, press Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get to the second virtual
terminal;
if you're not in X, you're fine where you are.
"apt-get install gpm"
Tell gpm
I got the mouse and desktop to work. I will post tomorrow regarding
how I did it.
I have a few more things to fix (wireless networking, etc), but I like
what I see so far. It seems to be a very elegent operating system.
Good night.
Greg
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On Friday 21 October 2005 08:58 pm, Greg wrote:
> Actually, I did a Google. I ran tasksel as root and loaded the files
> for the dektop. I answered several questions during the process.
> However, I still can't load the desktop. I get the following error
> message
>
> (EE) ef860penSerial I canno
Actually, I did a Google. I ran tasksel as root and loaded the files
for the dektop. I answered several questions during the process.
However, I still can't load the desktop. I get the following error
message
(EE) ef860penSerial I cannot open device /dev/input/mouse
(EE) ConfiguredMouse: Cannot
On Fri October 21 2005 06:45 pm, Greg wrote:
> It worked, sort of.
>
> Thanks to all for the advice, including the kind I didn't listen to.
> The dual boot stet up fine. However, during the Debian install, I
> accidently skipped over the part to install the desktop environment,
> print server, etc
On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 06:45:19PM -0700, Greg wrote:
> Thanks to all for the advice, including the kind I didn't listen to.
> The dual boot stet up fine. However, during the Debian install, I
> accidently skipped over the part to install the desktop environment,
> print server, etc. When all wa
It worked, sort of.
Thanks to all for the advice, including the kind I didn't listen to.
The dual boot stet up fine. However, during the Debian install, I
accidently skipped over the part to install the desktop environment,
print server, etc. When all was complete I was left with a prompt.
Not w
Antony Gelberg wrote:
He is new to Debian but sounds like he has a decent understanding of
PCs. If he is stupid enough to delete his Windows partition during the
install, it will certainly be the kind of mistake he learns from. :)
d-i is very friendly and I think he should proceed with both d
Greg wrote:
> I'm a noob to Debian but I'm ready to install Debian to my current
> machine. (PIII, 512MB Ram, 2 HDs; 60 MB - main and 80 MB secondary).
> The first HD contains WinME (don't laugh) and the second will contain
> Debian in one partition and Windows files (mp3s, JPEGs) in the other.
>
Greg wrote:
I'm a noob to Debian but I'm ready to install Debian to my current
machine. (PIII, 512MB Ram, 2 HDs; 60 MB - main and 80 MB secondary).
The first HD contains WinME (don't laugh) and the second will contain
Debian in one partition and Windows files (mp3s, JPEGs) in the other.
I've alr
Greg wrote:
My question is this, I want to use a boot loader
that will load either WinME or Debian. Grub seems like the default
boot loader per the installation docs I've read. During installation,
will Grub be smart enough to see WinMe on the other drive and will
itput the boot loader file on
yep you should be fine... just remember if you ever nuke your debian
install your bootloader will no longer work (or maybe its just that it
wont find its menu.lst file, can't remember as its been awhile since I
goofed up and did that) since thats where it stores the grub files (even
though grub wil
I'm a noob to Debian but I'm ready to install Debian to my current
machine. (PIII, 512MB Ram, 2 HDs; 60 MB - main and 80 MB secondary).
The first HD contains WinME (don't laugh) and the second will contain
Debian in one partition and Windows files (mp3s, JPEGs) in the other.
I've already partition
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