Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 07 September 2019 18:07:01 Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 03:58:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > The manifestation matches, but having read thru amanda's tools own > > logs, on that machine, I am not so sure we've pointed the finger in > > the right direction. From t

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-07 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 03:58:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > The manifestation matches, but having read thru amanda's tools own logs, > on that machine, I am not so sure we've pointed the finger in the right > direction. From the emailed backup report, it looks as if its crashed > the instan

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 September 2019 14:32:29 John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > Firewall rule? I haven't run iptables on any of these machines > > since forever but with systemd taking over, I've no clue how to > > disable it if it is running. htop see's nothing that looks like > > iptables, has it b

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 September 2019 13:39:43 Charles Curley wrote: > On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 18:30:30 +0100 > > Tixy wrote: > > Is the problem being talked about here different to amanda usr-merge > > bug 939411 [1] which I saw that mentioned in another thread [2] ? > > > > [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bi

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 September 2019 13:30:30 Tixy wrote: > On Fri, 2019-09-06 at 13:12 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 06 September 2019 11:52:15 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Le 06/09/2019 à 16:39, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > > > On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > >> I

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread David Wright
On Fri 06 Sep 2019 at 11:39:43 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 18:30:30 +0100 > Tixy wrote: > > > Is the problem being talked about here different to amanda usr-merge > > bug 939411 [1] which I saw that mentioned in another thread [2] ? > > > > [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cg

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > Firewall rule? I haven't run iptables on any of these machines since > forever but with systemd taking over, I've no clue how to disable it > if it is running. htop see's nothing that looks like iptables, has it > been renamed? Iptables is not a daemon. It is a tool for installin

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 18:30:30 +0100 Tixy wrote: > Is the problem being talked about here different to amanda usr-merge > bug 939411 [1] which I saw that mentioned in another thread [2] ? > > [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=939411 > [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/20

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2019-09-06 at 13:12 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 06 September 2019 11:52:15 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Le 06/09/2019 à 16:39, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > > On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > >> I could very easily see amanda itself breaking from usrmer

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 September 2019 11:58:15 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 05:52:15PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Le 06/09/2019 à 16:39, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > > On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > I could very easily see amanda itself breaking from

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 September 2019 11:52:15 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 06/09/2019 à 16:39, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> I could very easily see amanda itself breaking from usrmerge, if it > >> contains programs that try to invoke commands usin

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 05:52:15PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 06/09/2019 à 16:39, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > I could very easily see amanda itself breaking from usrmerge, if it > > > contains programs that try to invoke

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 06/09/2019 à 16:39, Gene Heskett a écrit : On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote: I could very easily see amanda itself breaking from usrmerge, if it contains programs that try to invoke commands using their full paths (e.g. /bin/rm -f ...). Why would that break ? Old pa

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 10:06:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > I don't have a good reason to object to the usr merge, but its > > causing amanda to crash the systems that have had this modification. > > This is t

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 10:06:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I don't have a good reason to object to the usr merge, but its causing > amanda to crash the systems that have had this modification. This is the part where you show us the error messages from the log files that s