On Fri 03 Jan 2020 at 21:13:42 (-0500), Kenneth Parker wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:51 PM David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 02 Jan 2020 at 06:04:03 (-0500), Steve Litt wrote that usr-merge
> > causes problems with systems that are initramfs-free (and /usr is a
> > mounted filesystem). I don't t
On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:51 PM David Wright
wrote:
> On Wed 01 Jan 2020 at 18:48:00 (+0100), Sven Hartge wrote:
> > David Wright wrote:
> >
> > > But this does follow the (snipped) comment 'the "/usr Merge" that
> > > might hit a fan someday'. For those *not* preparing packages for
> > > Debian
David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 02 Jan 2020 at 19:49:45 (+0100), Sven Hartge wrote:
>> But, to summarize: I'd have liked for this change to be done in a
>> different way with *all* systems-maintainers in board.
> Reading #914897, that didn't seem likely as views were somewhat
> entrenched.
Well, t
On Thu 02 Jan 2020 at 19:49:45 (+0100), Sven Hartge wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 01 Jan 2020 at 18:48:00 (+0100), Sven Hartge wrote:
> >> David Wright wrote:
>
> >>> But this does follow the (snipped) comment 'the "/usr Merge" that
> >>> might hit a fan someday'. For those *not* prep
David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 01 Jan 2020 at 18:48:00 (+0100), Sven Hartge wrote:
>> David Wright wrote:
>>> But this does follow the (snipped) comment 'the "/usr Merge" that
>>> might hit a fan someday'. For those *not* preparing packages for
>>> Debian and/or other distributions, can anyone ex
On Wed 01 Jan 2020 at 18:48:00 (+0100), Sven Hartge wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
>
> > But this does follow the (snipped) comment 'the "/usr Merge" that
> > might hit a fan someday'. For those *not* preparing packages for
> > Debian and/or other distributions, can anyone express a downside
> > to
David Wright wrote:
> But this does follow the (snipped) comment 'the "/usr Merge" that
> might hit a fan someday'. For those *not* preparing packages for
> Debian and/or other distributions, can anyone express a downside
> to usr-merge, ie for typical "user/consumers".
For me the biggest downsi
On Wed 01 Jan 2020 at 11:04:32 (+0200), Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 31 dec 19, 16:56:31, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 04:23:24PM +0100, Sven Hartge wrote:
> > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 03:34:34PM +0100, Sven Hartge wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
On Saturday 07 September 2019 18:07:01 Mark Fletcher wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 03:58:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > The manifestation matches, but having read thru amanda's tools own
> > logs, on that machine, I am not so sure we've pointed the finger in
> > the right direction. From t
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 03:58:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> The manifestation matches, but having read thru amanda's tools own logs,
> on that machine, I am not so sure we've pointed the finger in the right
> direction. From the emailed backup report, it looks as if its crashed
> the instan
On Friday 06 September 2019 14:32:29 John Hasler wrote:
> Gene writes:
> > Firewall rule? I haven't run iptables on any of these machines
> > since forever but with systemd taking over, I've no clue how to
> > disable it if it is running. htop see's nothing that looks like
> > iptables, has it b
On Friday 06 September 2019 13:39:43 Charles Curley wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 18:30:30 +0100
>
> Tixy wrote:
> > Is the problem being talked about here different to amanda usr-merge
> > bug 939411 [1] which I saw that mentioned in another thread [2] ?
> >
> > [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bi
On Friday 06 September 2019 13:30:30 Tixy wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-09-06 at 13:12 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 06 September 2019 11:52:15 Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> > > Le 06/09/2019 à 16:39, Gene Heskett a écrit :
> > > > On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > >> I
On Fri 06 Sep 2019 at 11:39:43 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 18:30:30 +0100
> Tixy wrote:
>
> > Is the problem being talked about here different to amanda usr-merge
> > bug 939411 [1] which I saw that mentioned in another thread [2] ?
> >
> > [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cg
Gene writes:
> Firewall rule? I haven't run iptables on any of these machines since
> forever but with systemd taking over, I've no clue how to disable it
> if it is running. htop see's nothing that looks like iptables, has it
> been renamed?
Iptables is not a daemon. It is a tool for installin
On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 18:30:30 +0100
Tixy wrote:
> Is the problem being talked about here different to amanda usr-merge
> bug 939411 [1] which I saw that mentioned in another thread [2] ?
>
> [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=939411
> [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/20
On Fri, 2019-09-06 at 13:12 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 06 September 2019 11:52:15 Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>
> > Le 06/09/2019 à 16:39, Gene Heskett a écrit :
> > > On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > >> I could very easily see amanda itself breaking from usrmer
On Friday 06 September 2019 11:58:15 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 05:52:15PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> > Le 06/09/2019 à 16:39, Gene Heskett a écrit :
> > > On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > > I could very easily see amanda itself breaking from
On Friday 06 September 2019 11:52:15 Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 06/09/2019 à 16:39, Gene Heskett a écrit :
> > On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >> I could very easily see amanda itself breaking from usrmerge, if it
> >> contains programs that try to invoke commands usin
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 05:52:15PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 06/09/2019 à 16:39, Gene Heskett a écrit :
> > On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > >
> > > I could very easily see amanda itself breaking from usrmerge, if it
> > > contains programs that try to invoke
Le 06/09/2019 à 16:39, Gene Heskett a écrit :
On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote:
I could very easily see amanda itself breaking from usrmerge, if it
contains programs that try to invoke commands using their full paths
(e.g. /bin/rm -f ...).
Why would that break ? Old pa
On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 10:06:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> >
> > I don't have a good reason to object to the usr merge, but its
> > causing amanda to crash the systems that have had this modification.
>
> This is t
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 10:06:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
>
> I don't have a good reason to object to the usr merge, but its causing
> amanda to crash the systems that have had this modification.
This is the part where you show us the error messages from the log files
that s
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