On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 09:45:44 (-0500), allan wrote:
> I've run Sid exclusively for years; the last time I broke it badly
> enough to justify a reinstall was in 2013 and that was for not paying
> attention during an upgrade :)
>
> My heartburn is I would have expected to see this change in a
> ch
On Mon 29 Jul 2024 at 09:23:16 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 28/07/2024 20:08, Erwan David wrote:
> > I also have a 99-systcl.conf which is a copy of the former /etc/sysctl.conf
>
> When you are going to replace a file provided by a package, check if
> it is a configuration file at first (e.g.
On 28/07/2024 20:08, Erwan David wrote:
I also have a 99-systcl.conf which is a copy of the former /etc/sysctl.conf
When you are going to replace a file provided by a package, check if it
is a configuration file at first (e.g. dpkg -s). Despite most of files
in /etc/ are marked as configurati
On 2024-07-28 20:01:35 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> In the interests of posting something *useful*, here's a timeline.
> As I understand it, here's what's happened so far:
>
> 2024-06-23: bug #1074156 filed against package procps
> procps: Depend or Recommend linux-sysctl-defaults
> Bug f
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 01:13:10 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2024-07-28 14:13:09 +, Michael Kjörling wrote:
> > And posting on debian-user with a bombastic Subject line which implies
> > that this is a widespread issue when it really only seems to exist in
> > Unstable is, quite frankly,
On 2024-07-28 14:13:09 +, Michael Kjörling wrote:
> And posting on debian-user with a bombastic Subject line which implies
> that this is a widespread issue when it really only seems to exist in
> Unstable is, quite frankly, in my opinion at best dishonest.
No, the breakage was done *on purpos
I've run Sid exclusively for years; the last time I broke it badly
enough to justify a reinstall was in 2013 and that was for not paying
attention during an upgrade :)
My heartburn is I would have expected to see this change in a
changelog and apt-listchanges didn't say a word about this.
As far
On 2024-07-28 at 10:13, Michael Kjörling wrote:
> On 28 Jul 2024 15:08 +0200, from er...@rail.eu.org (Erwan David):
>> Le 28/07/2024 à 14:28, allan a écrit :
>>> I would agree with you *if* the change had been publicized.
>>
>> [...] But in my view it is a bug to remove something else than the
>>
On 28 Jul 2024 15:08 +0200, from er...@rail.eu.org (Erwan David):
> Le 28/07/2024 à 14:28, allan a écrit :
>> I would agree with you *if* the change had been publicized.
>
> [...] But in my view it is a bug to remove something else than
> the symlink even with the same name
At the risk of repeati
Le 28/07/2024 à 14:28, allan a écrit :
I would agree with you *if* the change had been publicized.
I found the 99-sysctl.conf symlink accidentally. I removed the
symlink and moved sysctl.conf to 99-sysctl.conf since the original
config was not being read. This turned out to be a lousy idea sin
I would agree with you *if* the change had been publicized.
I found the 99-sysctl.conf symlink accidentally. I removed the
symlink and moved sysctl.conf to 99-sysctl.conf since the original
config was not being read. This turned out to be a lousy idea since
the symlink was removed with the next
On 28 Jul 2024 04:25 +0200, from vinc...@vinc17.net (Vincent Lefevre):
>> A conffile is user-managed, so any changes you make to a conffile must
>> be respected by the package. It can't just overwrite your changes, or
>> restore a conffile if you've deleted it.
>
> This is rather poor design, bec
On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 3:38 AM Nick Sal wrote:
>
> I plan to upgrade a server running Buster to Bookworm.
> Server is running: {web,mail} servers, mysql and postregre, docker, ssh,
> ldap, ferm (firewall), and few other non-critical services.
>
> I'd like to appeal to your experience for a coupl
On 17 Jun 2024 03:41 +, from specialrou...@proton.me (Nick Sal):
> 1) Should I upgrade in two steps from Buster to Bullseye
> (oldstable), and then to Bookworm? Or should I go directly from
> Buster to Bookworm in one step?
> The upgrade will be done by changing sources.list
NEVER skip major
Hi.
On Sat, Oct 02, 2021 at 12:03:36PM +0200, pk wrote:
> I got this message when installing nginx-light today. What does it
> mean and where does it come from? I could not grep it in the
> nginx-light .deb.
It's the usual nginx behaviour on restart.
Instead of shutting down nginx complet
On Mi, 29 sep 21, 07:05:37, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> From: Greg Wooledge
> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 13:41:05 -0400
> > What does it look like?
> >
> > ls -ld / /var /var/log /var/log/journal
>
> root@joule:/# ls -ld / /var /var/log
> drwxr-xr-x 18 peter peter 4096 Sep 27 18:00 /
> drwxr-
On Wed, Sep 29 2021 at 10:35:35 PM, David Wright
wrote:
> On Wed 29 Sep 2021 at 16:46:14 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 07:05:37AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
>> > From: Greg Wooledge
>> > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 13:41:05 -0400
>> > > What does it look like?
On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 10:35:35PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> Would it be sensible for the message to actually mention ownership,
> or can it apply to very different circumstances (beyond permissions,
> that is)? I've failed to find any other cause, but see a lot of
> people messing up their owne
>From my experience gnome-disks automatically chowns / to the executing user
>when creating a filesystem.
But I don't think Peter did that.
I'd rather say it's been caused by some installation script, those are usually
buggy when it comes to file ownership.
Peter, did you install anything via a .
On Wed 29 Sep 2021 at 16:46:14 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 07:05:37AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> > From: Greg Wooledge
> > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 13:41:05 -0400
> > > What does it look like?
> > >
> > > ls -ld / /var /var/log /var/log/journal
> >
> > ro
On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 08:01:00 -0700
pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> root@joule:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
> #deb http://mirror.it.ubc.ca/debian/ bullseye main
> deb http://mirror.it.ubc.ca/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://mirror.it.ubc.ca/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-fr
On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 02:35:10PM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> I can't explain why / was owned by me. According to the above it
> happened in the release upgrade two days ago.
No, that's not what that timestamp says. The timestamp in "ls -ld"
is the modification time (mtime) on the direct
From: Nils
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 17:16:30 +
> Are you sure you still need these journals?
I don't know.
> ... my way to work around it would be to just delete those logs.
Did that and rebooted. System behaviour unchanged.
APPARENT SOLUTION
root@joule:/home/peter# ls -ld / /var
On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 07:05:37AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> From: Greg Wooledge
> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 13:41:05 -0400
> > What does it look like?
> >
> > ls -ld / /var /var/log /var/log/journal
>
> root@joule:/# ls -ld / /var /var/log
> drwxr-xr-x 18 peter peter 4096 Sep 27 18
From: Nils
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 17:16:30 +
> Are you sure you still need these journals?
I don't know.
> ... my way to work around it would be to just delete those logs.
Did that and rebooted. System behaviour is unchanged.
plymouth-label was the last package reported unconfigu
From: Greg Wooledge
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 13:41:05 -0400
> What does it look like?
>
> ls -ld / /var /var/log /var/log/journal
root@joule:/# ls -ld / /var /var/log
drwxr-xr-x 18 peter peter 4096 Sep 27 18:00 /
drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 Nov 3 2020 /var
drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 40
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 06:33:52PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 08:55:59AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> > Errors were encountered while processing:
> > systemd
> > libpam-systemd:i386
> > policykit-1
> > policykit-1-gnome
> > plymouth
> > mate-polkit:i386
> >
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 08:55:59AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> Hi,
> Here the upgrade was completed except for the problem indicated in the
> following transcript.
>
> This page appears relevant.
> https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/systemd/systemd-journald.service.8.en.html
>
> /var/log/
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 08:55:59AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> Hi,
> Here the upgrade was completed except for the problem indicated in the
> following transcript.
>
> This page appears relevant.
> https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/systemd/systemd-journald.service.8.en.html
>
> /var/log/
Hi,
Are you sure you still need these journals? Might be some nasty bug and my way
to work around it would be to just delete those logs.
I mean, it's kind of a hacky solution but I'm absolutely sure this allows the
upgrade to continue.
Hope it's a viable solution to you,
Tuxifan
Am 28. Septembe
On Sunday 26 September 2021 01:59:05 pm Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> Follow the clues form the blog below:
>
> https://economictheoryblog.com/2015/11/08/how-to-enable-gui-root-login-in-debian-8/
>
> Edit /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf and add
>
> AllowRoot=true under [security]
>
> Then edit /etc/pam.d/g
On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 01:03:26PM -0400, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> On Saturday 25 September 2021 06:36:34 pm Dan Ritter wrote:
> > If the system will not let you login as root from the graphical
> > display manager, it's the GDM's fault. It may be a configurable
> > option in its /etc/whatever
On Sun 26 Sep 2021 at 13:03:26 -0400, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> On Saturday 25 September 2021 06:36:34 pm Dan Ritter wrote:
> > If the system will not let you login as root from the graphical
> > display manager, it's the GDM's fault. It may be a configurable
> > option in its /etc/whateverdm.
On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 12:48:37PM -0400, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
Hi Roy,
> On Saturday 25 September 2021 06:08:23 pm Andy Smith wrote:
> > The release of the three newer stable versions of Debian seems to have
> > happened without you noticing.
>
> Life has handed me a whole mess of thing
On Saturday 25 September 2021 06:36:34 pm Dan Ritter wrote:
> If the system will not let you login as root from the graphical
> display manager, it's the GDM's fault. It may be a configurable
> option in its /etc/whateverdm. If not, you can always replace a
> recalcitrant GDM with original xdm, whi
On Saturday 25 September 2021 06:08:23 pm Andy Smith wrote:
> The release of the three newer stable versions of Debian seems to have
> happened without you noticing.
Life has handed me a whole mess of things to deal with over the past year or
two...
> If you remain subscribed to this mailing l
On Sb, 25 sep 21, 22:08:23, Andy Smith wrote:
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 05:07:46PM -0400, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
>
> > The only thing that works there is to log in as a regular user,
> > and then use the su command to get there. A bit of a pain. Where
> > in the software is this controll
On Sat, 25 Sep 2021, Andy Smith wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 06:22:17PM -0400, songbird wrote:
Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
[Upgrading from Debian 8.11]
don't waste any more time trying to upgrade from a version that
ancient.
I've done 8 to 10 (by way of 9) on ten different machin
Hi,
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 06:22:17PM -0400, songbird wrote:
> Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
[Upgrading from Debian 8.11]
> don't waste any more time trying to upgrade from a version that
> ancient.
I've done 8 to 10 (by way of 9) on ten different machines in the
year preceding the 11 release
Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> Lots of differences! systemd instead of init, grub instead of LILO, and
> probably many more than I'd want to list here.
As it turns out, these are just the defaults.
> I haven't been paying a whole lot of attention to upgrades. Mostly
> it's been a matter of r
Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
...
> For whatever it's worth, I have no problems with a text-based login screen
> and then typing startx once I've logged in, which is pretty typical of my
> Slackware installations anyhow. The copy of Slackware that's running my
> server machine doesn't even have
Hi Roy,
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 05:07:46PM -0400, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> I haven't been paying a whole lot of attention to upgrades.
> Mostly it's been a matter of running synaptic package manager from
> time to time, and that's about it. Except that lately it doesn't
> seem to be finding
On 5/27/21, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 08:30:16AM -0700, latincom wrote:
>> Thank you
>>
>> Here is the mistake:
>>
>> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main
>> contrib non-free
>>
>> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates m
> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 05:45:33AM -0700, latin...@vcn.bc.ca wrote:
>> Hello list
>>
>> can somebody help with the correct sources.lst Bullseye please?
>
> How do yours look at the moment?
>
> Cheers
> - t
>
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main non-free contrib
# deb-src http://deb.deb
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 08:30:16AM -0700, latincom wrote:
> Thank you
>
> Here is the mistake:
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main
> contrib non-free
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib
> non-free
Yes, the format f
Thank you
Here is the mistake:
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main
contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main
contrib non-free
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 09:32:08AM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote:
[...]
> > You may also need to add bullseye-backports later, but you can worry
> > about those later, if you need them.
> >
>
> I only use Backports, if needed for a particular product.
AFAIK, by default backports have a lower prio
On 5/27/21 5:45 AM, latin...@vcn.bc.ca wrote:
Hello list
can somebody help with the correct sources.lst Bullseye please?
that's kinda complicated, as the others have already said
1. I suggest you review this, lots of info
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting
2. probably a fresh install
On Thu, May 27, 2021, 9:12 AM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 05:45:33AM -0700, latin...@vcn.bc.ca wrote:
> > Hello list
> >
> > can somebody help with the correct sources.lst Bullseye please?
>
> There are several correct answers, depending on what you want.
>
> If you intend to *
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 05:45:33AM -0700, latin...@vcn.bc.ca wrote:
> Hello list
>
> can somebody help with the correct sources.lst Bullseye please?
How do yours look at the moment?
Cheers
- t
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On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 05:45:33AM -0700, latin...@vcn.bc.ca wrote:
> Hello list
>
> can somebody help with the correct sources.lst Bullseye please?
There are several correct answers, depending on what you want.
If you intend to *stay* on bullseye when it becomes stable, then I
would go with:
d
On Sunday, 11 Apr 2021 at 12:05, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> As suggested elsewhere: Testing is currently frozen, relatively few changes
> happening. If this is a computer you rely on absolutely, you might want to
> make sure that all the entries in your /etc/apt/sources.list point to bullseye
> at
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 01:48:09PM +0200, Erwan David wrote:
> Le 11/04/2021 à 13:33, Eric S Fraga a écrit :
> > On Saturday, 10 Apr 2021 at 13:18, David Wright wrote:
> >> "my system (mostly Debian testing)"
> > For clarity, it's testing but has a couple of packages from elsewhere
> > (MS Team
Le 11/04/2021 à 13:33, Eric S Fraga a écrit :
> On Saturday, 10 Apr 2021 at 13:18, David Wright wrote:
>> "my system (mostly Debian testing)"
> For clarity, it's testing but has a couple of packages from elsewhere
> (MS Teams, Zoom) due to the fun times we are in... For some reason, my
> compu
On Saturday, 10 Apr 2021 at 13:08, David Wright wrote:
> My reaction upon reading this is that perhaps you should change your
> priorities slightly.
Yes, I understand where you are coming from. I do follow security
advisories and upgrade specific packages. I do periodically upgrade all
packages,
On Saturday, 10 Apr 2021 at 10:05, David Christensen wrote:
> When I want to upgrade, re-install, or install packages, I start with
> 'apt-get update'.
Yes, did that.
> I would have done 'apt-get upgrade ...' instead of 'apt install
> ...'. I then reboot.
Not sure if you are saying to upgrade a
On Saturday, 10 Apr 2021 at 13:18, David Wright wrote:
> "my system (mostly Debian testing)"
For clarity, it's testing but has a couple of packages from elsewhere
(MS Teams, Zoom) due to the fun times we are in... For some reason, my
computer seems to think I am running bullseye/sid (contents
On Saturday, 10 Apr 2021 at 14:21, Linux-Fan wrote:
> Did you try to completely stop all of the previous version's processes?
Yes, I had quit firefox and also added 'pkill firefox-esr' for good
measure.
I will try upgrading firefox-esr again and make triply sure everything
is gone before starting
On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:05:23AM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> I have not figured out the difference between apt(8) and apt-get(8). It
> looks like the former uses the latter as a back-end (?).
Not quite. They both use the same libraries to do the actual work, but
one does not actually exe
On Sat 10 Apr 2021 at 10:05:23 (-0700), David Christensen wrote:
> On 4/10/21 4:59 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
>
> > ... I did 'apt update' and 'apt install firefox-esr' to upgrade from
> > version 78.6 to version 78.9.
>
> I have not figured out the difference between apt(8) and apt-get(8).
> It loo
On Sat 10 Apr 2021 at 12:59:12 (+0100), Eric S Fraga wrote:
>
> I don't frequently upgrade if my system (mostly Debian testing) is
> working but my bank told me that my browser was out of date and I needed
> to upgrade.
>
> So, I did 'apt update' and 'apt install firefox-esr' to upgrade from
> ve
On 4/10/21 4:59 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
... I did 'apt update' and 'apt install firefox-esr' to upgrade from
version 78.6 to version 78.9.
I have not figured out the difference between apt(8) and apt-get(8). It
looks like the former uses the latter as a back-end (?). I use apt-get(8).
On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 02:21:13PM +0200, Linux-Fan wrote:
[...]
> Did you try to completely stop all of the previous version's processes?
>
> With new Firefox updates I frequently observe that the already
> running old version "disintegrates" [...]
Very polite way to put it :)
Yes, that's my
Eric S Fraga writes:
Hello all,
I don't frequently upgrade if my system (mostly Debian testing) is
working but my bank told me that my browser was out of date and I needed
to upgrade.
So, I did 'apt update' and 'apt install firefox-esr' to upgrade from
version 78.6 to version 78.9. Start up t
Thanks Jörg
snapshot.debian.org was a great help! Though I had trouble with apt to deal
with the downgrade with depedencies, aptitude's interactive UI helped a lot.
As for the xpra issue, it seemed to be something about xpra itself. I just
found xpra was somehow not in the repo anymore.
https:
S. Dash wrote on 15/07/2020 10:02:
> 2.
>
> Apart from this issue, I just realized that I was unable to downgrade to 3.8.3
> if I had not cached the deb files. All mirror sites I could find were all
> updated to have only 3.8.4~rc1-1. Is there an archive that keeps older
> versions?
>
Yes, ther
Sivaram Neelakantan writes:
> I'd like to upgrade Emacs to the 26.x series and only that and it's
> dependencies. Is there a way to do that? A search on the web showed
> some confusing instructions. Below are, hopefully, enough information
> for any suggestions.
>
> user1@DESKTOP:~$ cat /etc/
On Thu, Nov 07, 2019 at 10:39:41PM +0530, Sivaram Neelakantan wrote:
>
> I'd like to upgrade Emacs to the 26.x series and only that and it's
> dependencies. Is there a way to do that? A search on the web showed
> some confusing instructions. Below are, hopefully, enough information
> for any su
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 18:14, John Conover wrote:
>
> I installed debian-live-10.1.0-amd64-xfce.iso from
> https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
>
> Programs compiled on Debian 9, Amd64, fail to execute, with a wrong
> binary format error.[1]
If you don't provide the
On Friday 20 September 2019 12:42:16 deloptes wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > I have to play Sam Elliot here, John, reminding us that it took a
> > special kind of stupid to elect what we did elect in the last poll.
>
> But Gene, it was not hard given the alternative. I still think it is
> the le
Gene Heskett wrote:
> I have to play Sam Elliot here, John, reminding us that it took a special
> kind of stupid to elect what we did elect in the last poll.
But Gene, it was not hard given the alternative. I still think it is the
less evil what you and we got :|
In fact I can't remember when wa
ident.
- Original Message -
From: "Gene Heskett"
To: "debian-user"
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 3:18:48 PM
Subject: Re: Upgrading point release from 10 to 10.1
On Thursday 19 September 2019 13:47:30 John Hasler wrote:
> Fred writes:
> > Do we have our lying idiot, ba
On Thursday 19 September 2019 13:47:30 John Hasler wrote:
> Fred writes:
> > Do we have our lying idiot, bag of crap, fake President to thank for
> > making that much worse?
>
> This comes from the loons on the other side. Trump & Co have their
> own set of stupidities.
I have to play Sam Elliot
Wrong thread. Sorry.
--
John Hasler
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA
Fred writes:
> Do we have our lying idiot, bag of crap, fake President to thank for
> making that much worse?
This comes from the loons on the other side. Trump & Co have their own
set of stupidities.
--
John Hasler
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA
> I upgraded to Debian 10.0 (from 9) a few days ago, and I just tried to
> upgrade to 10.1 (sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get
> dist-upgrade), but it doesn't upgrade to 10.1 (lsb_release -a still lists
> 10). What am I missing?
>
> And it is normal that the word InRelea
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 04:14:37PM +, D&P Dimov wrote:
> I upgraded to Debian 10.0 (from 9) a few days ago, and I just tried to
> upgrade to 10.1 (sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get
> dist-upgrade), but it doesn't upgrade to 10.1 (lsb_release -a still lists
> 10). What a
James Allsopp writes:
Hi,
I was going to upgrade to Buster, but I've got docker installed and am
running a container as an ldap server. Consequently I don't want to get rid
of it, but the install guide I read suggested removing all 3rd-party
repositories before starting.
This is the cur
I upgraded just fine with 3rd party repositories enabled. What you might
want to do is ensure the repositories match the Debian version you're
upgrading to.
Typically repositories that do different builds for different Debian
versions put the version in the repository URL. So check whether any suc
Hi Phil,
> Thanks Richard, that looks like the best solution. They even
> have a mailing list.
I have have really enjoyed using docker for such issues - mix&match
useland as you like it - without interfering with you "main"
distribution and without any performance overhead.
Br, Clemens
Br, Cle
Richard Hector wrote:
Another option is to switch to using the pgdg repo for 9.6:
https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt
Thanks Richard, that looks like the best solution. They even
have a mailing list.
Cheers, Phil.
Phil Endecott [2019-07-08T22:24:17+01] wrote:
> Indeed, not upgrading to Buster is a possibility. Also upgrading
> PostgreSQL to version 11 is a possibility. I think I understand the
> issues with each of those options, but I don't have a good
> understanding of the issues with trying to keep pg-9
On Lu, 08 iul 19, 22:24:17, Phil Endecott wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > Is upgrading to buster a necessity? Stretch will be supported by Debian
> > for one more year and probably some more by the LTS effort.
>
> Indeed, not upgrading to Buster is a possibility. Also upgrading PostgreSQL
On 9/07/19 9:24 AM, Phil Endecott wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>> On Lu, 08 iul 19, 20:02:36, Phil Endecott wrote:
>>> Dear Experts,
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any advice about the possibility of upgrading
>>> systems from Stretch to Buster, but keeping Postgresql-9.6 for
>>> the time being?
>>
>>
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Lu, 08 iul 19, 20:02:36, Phil Endecott wrote:
Dear Experts,
Does anyone have any advice about the possibility of upgrading
systems from Stretch to Buster, but keeping Postgresql-9.6 for
the time being?
Is upgrading to buster a necessity? Stretch will be supported by D
On Lu, 08 iul 19, 20:02:36, Phil Endecott wrote:
> Dear Experts,
>
> Does anyone have any advice about the possibility of upgrading
> systems from Stretch to Buster, but keeping Postgresql-9.6 for
> the time being?
Is upgrading to buster a necessity? Stretch will be supported by Debian
for one m
Phil Endecott:
>
> Does anyone have any advice about the possibility of upgrading
> systems from Stretch to Buster, but keeping Postgresql-9.6 for
> the time being?
With previous Debian releases you always had to migrate your cluster to
the new Postgres version manually. The new packages are inst
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:10:01AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Richard Owlett writes:
> > Quoting webopedia.com, "A local-area network (LAN) is a computer
> > network that spans a relatively small area." The sticking point is an
> > unstated assumption - a LAN connects two *OR MORE* computers. I w
Richard Owlett writes:
> Quoting webopedia.com, "A local-area network (LAN) is a computer
> network that spans a relatively small area." The sticking point is an
> unstated assumption - a LAN connects two *OR MORE* computers. I wish
> to connect *EXACTLY* two computers {for which an RS232 null mod
On 10/15/2018 04:09 AM, David wrote:
On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 23:01, Richard Owlett wrote:
I have no desire nor need for a traditional LAN.
Wanting to transfer or share data between machines, while simultaneously
declaring the above, appears inconsistent.
I don't know what a "traditional LAN"
On Monday 15 October 2018 10:45:54 Dan Purgert wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 15 October 2018 05:09:05 David wrote:
> > [...]
> > And the best of both worlds is had buy investing in a good router,
> > useing to to Native Address Translation between the dhcp supplied
> > address your
>
Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 15 October 2018 05:09:05 David wrote:
> [...]
> And the best of both worlds is had buy investing in a good router, useing
> to to Native Address Translation between the dhcp supplied address your
NAT = "Network Address Translation" ;)
> ISP gives the router when
On Monday 15 October 2018 05:09:05 David wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 23:01, Richard Owlett
wrote:
> > I have no desire nor need for a traditional LAN.
>
As a somewhat senior to Richard, one thing I've learned in a lng
carrear in electronics is that life is a lot simpler if you use the
On 10/15/2018 04:09 AM, David wrote:
On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 23:01, Richard Owlett wrote:
I have no desire nor need for a traditional LAN.
Wanting to transfer or share data between machines, while simultaneously
declaring the above, appears inconsistent.
[ *MASSIVE* snip]
Thank you for your
On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 23:01, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> I have no desire nor need for a traditional LAN.
Wanting to transfer or share data between machines, while simultaneously
declaring the above, appears inconsistent.
I don't know what a "traditional LAN" is, so I wonder what you mean by thos
On 10/10/2018 08:01 AM, Alexandre Rossi wrote:
Hi,
Something just brought to mind apt-offline. The introductory paragraph
in the man page states:
apt-offline brings offline package management functionality to Debian
based system. It can be used to download packages and its dependencies
to be i
On 10/10/2018 02:53 AM, Curt wrote:
On 2018-10-09, Gene Heskett wrote:
It's about time some invented a WiFi device which plugs into a USB
port.
Not needed, you can buy such a dongle from netgear for at least half a
decade or longer. I was out of ports on the 4 port in the shop, so I
I inte
mick crane wrote:
>songbird wrote:
...
>> i used to take the USB stick to the library to download
>> big packages when needing updates. glad i haven't had to
>> do that in a while, but i still have a relatively slow
>> connection (about 10M/minute) compared to many, but it's
>> much better than
On Wednesday 10 October 2018 11:18:46 David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 10 Oct 2018 at 10:52:10 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Wednesday 10 October 2018 09:58:22 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, October 09, 2018 04:01:49 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 09 October 2018 12:20:25
On Wed 10 Oct 2018 at 10:52:10 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 October 2018 09:58:22 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 09, 2018 04:01:49 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 09 October 2018 12:20:25 Brian wrote:
> > > > It's about time some invented a WiFi device w
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