Re: Torrents for 10.12

2022-03-26 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 14:00:14 -0500 Intense Red wrote: Hello Intense, > I think you mean 11.3. Yves means 10.12. Just because you have no interest in it -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a

Re: Torrents for 10.12

2022-03-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 02:00:14PM -0500, Intense Red wrote: > > Are there torrents for Debian 10.12 which was just announced? > >I think you mean 11.3. > >Either way, it usually takes a few hours or the next day before torrents > are created and the web pages are updated. > > https://w

Re: Torrents for 10.12

2022-03-26 Thread Intense Red
> Are there torrents for Debian 10.12 which was just announced? I think you mean 11.3. Either way, it usually takes a few hours or the next day before torrents are created and the web pages are updated. https://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ -- Fast fact: 90% of the American media is con

Re: Torrents for 10.12

2022-03-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 02:29:00PM -0400, Yves Bellefeuille wrote: > Are there torrents for Debian 10.12 which was just announced? I can't > find any. > > -- > Yves Bellefeuille > > > Hi Yves Please wait - we're in the middle of testing images for Debian 11 at the moment and images for Debian

Re: Torrents Debian 7.5 Fails

2014-05-21 Thread Mr. Queue
On 5/21/2014 11:52 AM, Martin Noblía wrote: > Hi, torrent client not work or torrent broken? Seems they didn't make the update. File a bug report if you must have it or go grab Knoppix to finish your maintenance. I just tried to start all the 7.5 live ISO's and non of them are working. -- To UN

Re: Torrents Debian 7.5 Fails

2014-05-21 Thread Gaëtan Herfray
I have downloaded it through http website and I'm currently sharing it on torrent network. May you retry it ? On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Martin Noblía wrote: > Hi, torrent client not work or torrent broken? > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subje

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-27 Thread ABS Doug
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > I have no real help to your specific problem, but you need to provide > some solid useful data so others can debug the problem. Based on stuff > in the other thread about what versions work and don't work, and the > above, I recomme

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 26 iun 10, 23:08:56, ABS Doug wrote: > > absd...@aceraspireonezg5:~$ iwconfig -a > -aNo such device Try 'iwconfig' instead. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-26 Thread ABS Doug
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > I have no real help to your specific problem, but you need to provide > some solid useful data so others can debug the problem. Based on stuff > in the other thread about what versions work and don't work, and the > above, I recommend

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-22 Thread Mark Allums
On 6/21/2010 11:03 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Thus, with the same router, I could take a few different *nix OS flavors and perl versions, blowing up the router with some, and not denting it with others. It's all about the packet load you push through the router. It's absolutely normal for setups

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Mark put forth on 6/21/2010 11:13 PM: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> Thus, with the same router, I could take a few different *nix OS flavors >> and >> perl versions, blowing up the router with some, and not denting it with >> others. >> >> It's all about the packet loa

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Mark
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > Thus, with the same router, I could take a few different *nix OS flavors > and > perl versions, blowing up the router with some, and not denting it with > others. > > It's all about the packet load you push through the router. It's > absol

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Mark put forth on 6/21/2010 1:20 PM: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Tim Clewlow wrote: > >> >> I would still like to know the answer to one simple question. >> >> Does restarting the modem/router bring the network back up? >> >> If the answer is yes, then the problem is on the modem/router.

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread Stephen Fishpaste
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 09:26:17AM +0800, Huang, Tao wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:30 AM, ABS Doug wrote: > [snip] > > I rent a room. The router is in a different part of the house. WiFi is > > included in the rent. I already asked about moving the router, but > > that isn't gunna happen. The

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Lisi
On Monday 21 June 2010 23:38:21 Mark wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Tim Clewlow wrote: > > As to why this happens at all. Not all operating systems are equal. > > Some systems can send bucket loads of new connections down the line > > very quickly, some (read windoze) have slow IO subs

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Mark
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Tim Clewlow wrote: > As to why this happens at all. Not all operating systems are equal. > Some systems can send bucket loads of new connections down the line > very quickly, some (read windoze) have slow IO subsystems and so do > not send multiple connection req

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:43:21PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > snip. > From what I can remember of his claims, it (downloading a torrent) over > the wireless connection works fine with XP and with UNR. It's just some > form of straight Debian where torrent do

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 06/21/2010 03:37 PM, Tim Clewlow wrote: > As to why this happens at all. Not all operating systems are equal. > Some systems can send bucket loads of new connections down the line > very quickly, some (read windoze) have slow IO subsystems and so do > not send multiple connection requests anywhe

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Tim Clewlow
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Tim Clewlow > wrote: > >> >> I would still like to know the answer to one simple question. >> >> Does restarting the modem/router bring the network back up? >> >> If the answer is yes, then the problem is on the modem/router. >> > > How can this be true when th

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Mark
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Tim Clewlow wrote: > > I would still like to know the answer to one simple question. > > Does restarting the modem/router bring the network back up? > > If the answer is yes, then the problem is on the modem/router. > How can this be true when the same machine,

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Tim Clewlow
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:24 AM, ABS Doug wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Mark wrote: >> >> > Exactly. I'm hoping his dvd download via Iceweasel fails, since >> that >> would >> > point directly to a driver issue. If it succeeds, that means >> the >> problemo >> > is with the to

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 04:30:56AM -0400, ABS Doug wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Huang, Tao wrote: > > > so the torrents render you wireless disconnected. > > > > if your wifi adapter driver supports auto-reconnecting, everything > > should be solved. but i have no idea on how to get

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 21. 06. 2010 15:44:47 je Ron Johnson napisal(a): The why does it succeed when XP is the client, and for me when the torrent is "non-pirate"? Well, for one, XP is a castrated OS (the notorious limit on concurrent 'half-open' connections being just one of its many self-imposed limit

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Mark
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:24 AM, ABS Doug wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Mark wrote: > > > Exactly. I'm hoping his dvd download via Iceweasel fails, since that > would > > point directly to a driver issue. If it succeeds, that means the > problemo > > is with the torrent software. >

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread H.S.
On 06/20/10 23:10, ABS Doug wrote: > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Huang, Tao wrote: >> >> you have no control at all on how the wifi hotspots were configured, >> which is also the case of ABS Doug. >> port-forwarding (or upnp) is needed for good torrents performance. >> if the number of conne

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread H.S.
On 06/20/10 17:30, ABS Doug wrote: > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:37 AM, H.S. wrote: > >> If torrents were acting all weird in my case, I would do the following, >> in the given order. >> >> 1. Try a "safe" torrent, e.g. of a Linux distribution (Ubuntu is a good >> example). The idea is to exclude

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/21/2010 07:22 AM, Eero Volotinen wrote: 2010/6/21 ABS Doug: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: Lets not forget that my *wired* system crapped out at 86% while downloading the torrent he supplied. Bouncing my WRT56GL solved the problem. However, two other torrents I've

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/6/21 ABS Doug : > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Lets not forget that my *wired* system crapped out at 86% while downloading >> the torrent he supplied.  Bouncing my WRT56GL solved the problem. >> >> However, two other torrents I've downloaded (both "legally" on torr

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread ABS Doug
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: > Lets not forget that my *wired* system crapped out at 86% while downloading > the torrent he supplied.  Bouncing my WRT56GL solved the problem. > > However, two other torrents I've downloaded (both "legally" on torrent) > downloaded just fine.

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/21/2010 03:00 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Huang, Tao put forth on 6/21/2010 2:36 AM: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] he won't be able to get the 4.4G iso file without pausing and resuming, if a misconfigured networking enviroment (or flaky wireless) was the reaso

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 21. 06. 2010 04:10:28 je H.S. napisal(a): I think he is over-simplifying the problem of flaky wireless, but I understand where he is coming from. I have discovered that a buggy driver, or buggy firmware on the wireless card, or both, can cause wireless connectivity problems over time. It do

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread ABS Doug
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: >> It sounds like the most effective thing you could do would be to pick up >> a comprehensive Linux book and spend some quality time with it. I do have a book. It is quite handy & I do read it often. The CLI stuff... I'd have to take a really

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread ABS Doug
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Huang, Tao wrote: > so the torrents render you wireless disconnected. > > if your wifi adapter driver supports auto-reconnecting, everything > should be solved. but i have no idea on how to get there. > > correct me if i get it wrong. My visual indicator somethi

Re: Well, this is interesting... (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-21 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Huang, Tao wrote: > "When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a carbon > copy (CC) to the original poster unless they explicitly request to be > copied." That's what I thought... well we're all going to have to live with a mistake every now & ag

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread ABS Doug
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: > From what I can remember of his claims, it (downloading a torrent) over the > wireless connection works fine with XP and with UNR.  It's just some form of > straight Debian where torrent downloads fail. XP & UNR 9.10 work, Debian & UNE 10.04

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread ABS Doug
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Mark wrote: > Exactly.  I'm hoping his dvd download via Iceweasel fails, since that would > point directly to a driver issue.  If it succeeds, that means the problemo > is with the torrent software. Iceweasel, jigdo both worked. Also I've tried I think 5 differen

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Huang, Tao put forth on 6/21/2010 2:36 AM: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] >>> he won't be able to get the 4.4G iso file without pausing and >>> resuming, if a misconfigured networking enviroment (or flaky wireless) >>> was the reason. >>> >> >> From what I can reme

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Huang, Tao
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] >> he won't be able to get the 4.4G iso file without pausing and >> resuming, if a misconfigured networking enviroment (or flaky wireless) >> was the reason. >> > > From what I can remember of his claims, it (downloading a torrent) over t

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/21/2010 01:06 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Du, 20 iun 10, 00:41:29, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sb, 19 iun 10, 02:02:17, ABS Doug wrote: [problems with torrents] If you're on wireless try a wired connection for a while. Did you get to trying wired only? I don't think he can. -- Seek t

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/21/2010 12:01 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:44:17PM -0400, ABS Doug wrote: .snip Ok now I REALIZE what people have been trying to communicate. I hope I can help those smarter than I... please REALIZE, we noobs don't even KNOW what

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 20 iun 10, 00:41:29, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sb, 19 iun 10, 02:02:17, ABS Doug wrote: > > [problems with torrents] > > If you're on wireless try a wired connection for a while. Did you get to trying wired only? Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers

Re: Well, this is interesting... (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 20 iun 10, 17:18:21, ABS Doug wrote: > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> > >> When someone sends you a direct email, the expectation is that you will > >> send a direct reply. > > No problem. From now on, I'm hitting reply to all. I think you misunderstood: - privat

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread Mark
> > On 6/20/2010 11:30 PM, Huang, Tao wrote: > >> >> no, we don't want download managers here. >> we are trying to isolate the cause of the problem. >> > Exactly. I'm hoping his dvd download via Iceweasel fails, since that would point directly to a driver issue. If it succeeds, that means the pro

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread Mark Allums
On 6/20/2010 11:30 PM, Huang, Tao wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Mark Allums wrote: If you use Iceweasel for downloading, try the Firefox add-on Downthemall for management of downloads. I use and recommend it. Mainly for safer "pause" (or dropped connection) and "resume". no, we d

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:44:17PM -0400, ABS Doug wrote: .snip > >Ok now I REALIZE what people have been trying to communicate. I > hope I can help those smarter than I... please REALIZE, we noobs don't > even KNOW what info to give until the "pros" ask! Dmesg? O

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 11:30 PM, Huang, Tao wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Mark Allums wrote: If you use Iceweasel for downloading, try the Firefox add-on Downthemall for management of downloads. I use and recommend it. Mainly for safer "pause" (or dropped connection) and "resume". no, we

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread Huang, Tao
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Mark Allums wrote: > If you use Iceweasel for downloading, try the Firefox add-on Downthemall for > management of downloads.  I use and recommend it.  Mainly for safer "pause" > (or dropped connection) and "resume". no, we don't want download managers here. we ar

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread Mark Allums
On 6/20/2010 11:18 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 6/20/2010 4:39 PM, ABS Doug wrote: I'm sorry, I was trying to figure out what jiado is. Also I've never did a DL through Iceweasel& was trying to figure that out to. Then I got distracted& forgot. I'm about to go& try a download of Ubuntu via torrent

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Huang, Tao put forth on 6/20/2010 10:27 AM: > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 1:58 AM: >> >>> $ netstat -an | grep ^tcp\ | grep -v LISTEN | wc -l >>> 111 >> >> You might get a more accurate count of BitTorrent connections with: >> >> net

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread Huang, Tao
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:44 AM, ABS Doug wrote: [snip] > -Error messages: Don't know where to look. Visual indication is Skype > is offline & internet is offline so the torrents render you wireless disconnected. if your wifi adapter driver supports auto-reconnecting, everything should be solve

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread Mark Allums
On 6/20/2010 4:39 PM, ABS Doug wrote: I'm sorry, I was trying to figure out what jiado is. Also I've never did a DL through Iceweasel& was trying to figure that out to. Then I got distracted& forgot. I'm about to go& try a download of Ubuntu via torrent to see if I have an issue. If you want

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread Huang, Tao
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:59 AM, ABS Doug wrote: > Yes, quite right, a DVD. Now which one? download this one [1] with iceweasel and see if it fails or encounters any glitch. [1]: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.4/amd64/iso-dvd/debian-504-amd64-DVD-1.iso Tao -- http://huangtao.me/ http

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Zoran Kolic wrote: > > He-he! Contrary. > I assume poster tries to solve the problem himself first. > Aside of being polite, it is a fun to learn new things. > Some lists, like openbsd ones, ask you to do various steps > toward answer to the question. Describing th

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Tim Clewlow wrote: > What do you have to do to get the connection back? Restart > networking on the torrent client computer, or, restart the > modem/router, or perhaps you have a separate firewall that requires > a (networking) restart. The answer to this question

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Huang, Tao wrote: > > you have no control at all on how the wifi hotspots were configured, > which is also the case of ABS Doug. > port-forwarding (or upnp) is needed for good torrents performance. > if the number of connections is not limited, the router resouces

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread Huang, Tao
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:10 AM, H.S. wrote: > On 06/20/10 21:55, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 06/20/2010 08:26 PM, Huang, Tao wrote: >> [snip] >>> >>> torrents over wireless can be very tricky. >> >> Why? >> > > I think he is over-simplifying the problem of flaky wireless, but I > understand where h

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread H.S.
On 06/20/10 21:55, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 06/20/2010 08:26 PM, Huang, Tao wrote: > [snip] >> >> torrents over wireless can be very tricky. > > Why? > I think he is over-simplifying the problem of flaky wireless, but I understand where he is coming from. I have discovered that a buggy driver, or

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Mark wrote: > > Ubuntu download might be too small to test, that's why I suggested a dvd > download.  The logic is, if you can download large files on the same OS but > from a different software platform like jigdo or Iceweasel, you've isolated > the problem to be

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 08:26 PM, Huang, Tao wrote: [snip] torrents over wireless can be very tricky. Why? -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.d

Re: netstat (was Re: Torrents killing my conection)

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 08:07 PM, Huang, Tao wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] Nope, since that also returns tcp6 packets. This does it simplest: $ netstat -ant4 so you are not taking use of ipv6 p2p. Should I be? After all, my ISP only uses IPv4 for consumer HSI.

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread Huang, Tao
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:30 AM, ABS Doug wrote: [snip] > I rent a room. The router is in a different part of the house. WiFi is > included in the rent. I already asked about moving the router, but > that isn't gunna happen. The router isn't even mine. I might end up > trying to run a splitter at

Re: Well, this is interesting... (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread Huang, Tao
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:18 AM, ABS Doug wrote: > No problem. From now on, I'm hitting reply to all. nah, read the code of conduct http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct "When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a carbon copy (CC) to the original poster unless they

Re: netstat (was Re: Torrents killing my conection)

2010-06-20 Thread Huang, Tao
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] > Nope, since that also returns tcp6 packets.  This does it simplest: > $ netstat -ant4 so you are not taking use of ipv6 p2p. Tao -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troub

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread Andrew Reid
On Sunday 20 June 2010 18:06:37 ABS Doug wrote: > Downloading Ubuntu through Iceweasel went fine... thing is it went SO > fast, I'm not sure it's really a good test. FYI, this effectively rules out the MTU issues I suggested earlier, so it was a useful test for that. The multi-OS character wo

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread Mark
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 2:42 PM, ABS Doug wrote: > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 5:39 PM, ABS Doug wrote: > > >If you want to provide more > > info re: jiado & DL through Iceweasel, I'll try it! > It's "jigdo", and it's a great way to download big files for Debian. It's the only thing I use to down

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread H.S.
On 06/20/10 17:54, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 06/20/2010 04:30 PM, ABS Doug wrote: > [snip] >> >> I rent a room. The router is in a different part of the house. WiFi is >> included in the rent. I already asked about moving the router, but >> that isn't gunna happen. The router isn't even mine. I might

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
Downloading Ubuntu through Iceweasel went fine... thing is it went SO fast, I'm not sure it's really a good test. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanl

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 04:30 PM, ABS Doug wrote: [snip] I rent a room. The router is in a different part of the house. WiFi is included in the rent. I already asked about moving the router, but that isn't gunna happen. The router isn't even mine. I might end up trying to run a splitter at some point, but

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 04:23 PM, ABS Doug wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: pan2, unrar and par2 got me over my distrust of multi-part downloads. Yep. Funny thing too, these days I almost *NEVER* find anything incomplete or corrupted. I only download par2 files& run the chec

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 5:39 PM, ABS Doug wrote: >If you want to provide more > info re: jiado & DL through Iceweasel, I'll try it! Sorry, I got what you mean DL through Iceweasel... doing it now, downloading Ubuntu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a sub

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Mark wrote: > My previous reply: > > Nuno mentioned looking at your hardware, and it's possible the drivers are > different in the Ubuntu/XP/Debian platforms that's causing the dropout.  Is > it only with torrents, or is it all downloads?  What if you download a d

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:37 AM, H.S. wrote: > If torrents were acting all weird in my case, I would do the following, > in the given order. > > 1. Try a "safe" torrent, e.g. of a Linux distribution (Ubuntu is a good > example). The idea is to exclude the possibility of using bad or > intentiona

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: > pan2, unrar and par2 got me over my distrust of multi-part downloads. Yep. Funny thing too, these days I almost *NEVER* find anything incomplete or corrupted. I only download par2 files & run the check... can't remember the last time I need t

Re: Well, this is interesting... (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> When someone sends you a direct email, the expectation is that you will >> send a direct reply. No problem. From now on, I'm hitting reply to all. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsu

Re: Well, this is interesting... (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 4:31 AM, Klistvud wrote: > Call me paranoid (many people do), but I have a strong hunch that, in order > to subvert the bittorrent protocol and eventually dismantle its user base, > the media majors are flooding the Internet with intentionally malformed > torrents/trackers

Re: This is why gmail sucks (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 05:58 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 4:44 AM: On 06/20/2010 04:04 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 1:52 AM: Gee, I've got a lot of Linksys kit... It didn't used to be like that.) Too much shopping at WorstBuy et al and no

netstat (was Re: Torrents killing my conection)

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 10:27 AM, Huang, Tao wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 1:58 AM: $ netstat -an | grep ^tcp\ | grep -v LISTEN | wc -l 111 You might get a more accurate count of BitTorrent connections with: netstat -an | grep ^tcp\

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread Huang, Tao
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 1:58 AM: > >> $ netstat -an | grep ^tcp\  | grep -v LISTEN | wc -l >> 111 > > You might get a more accurate count of BitTorrent connections with: > > netstat -an | grep ^tcp\  | grep ":"[6][8,9][0-9][0-9] |

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread H.S.
On 06/19/10 02:02, ABS Doug wrote: > I still don't have an answer. It would seem for the 1st time in my > life, I've reached a point were I can't figure something out. Here is > what I've tried: > > -Lowered upload speed below 50% of total upload capacity (fail). > -Lowered the number of peers, bo

Re: This is why gmail sucks (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 4:44 AM: > On 06/20/2010 04:04 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 1:52 AM: >> >>> Gee, I've got a lot of Linksys kit... It didn't used to be like that.) >> >> Too much shopping at WorstBuy et al and not enough at Newegg, Fryes, >> etc m

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 1:58 AM: > $ netstat -an | grep ^tcp\ | grep -v LISTEN | wc -l > 111 You might get a more accurate count of BitTorrent connections with: netstat -an | grep ^tcp\ | grep ":"[6][8,9][0-9][0-9] | grep -c -v LISTEN Your command line merely shows all TCP connecti

Re: This is why gmail sucks (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 04:04 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 1:52 AM: Gee, I've got a lot of Linksys kit... It didn't used to be like that.) Too much shopping at WorstBuy et al and not enough at Newegg, Fryes, etc maybe? On the contrary, I do almost all my shopping at Ne

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread Mark Allums
On 6/20/2010 1:34 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/20/2010 12:50 AM, Mark Allums wrote: [snip] Throttling is just one possibility, and maybe (probably) not even the best guess. It's just a suggestion. I think throttling is more likely if you open lots of connections, so try using fewer. Beyond abo

Re: This is why gmail sucks (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 1:52 AM: > Gee, I've got a lot of Linksys kit... It didn't used to be like that.) Too much shopping at WorstBuy et al and not enough at Newegg, Fryes, etc maybe? -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "un

Re: Well, this is interesting... (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 20. 06. 2010 09:59:55 je Ron Johnson napisal(a): For the first time since I bought it, I just had to reboot my router! Doug's torrent was 86% complete. Call me paranoid (many people do), but I have a strong hunch that, in order to subvert the bittorrent protocol and eventually dismantle

Well, this is interesting... (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 01:52 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/19/2010 11:53 PM, ABS Doug wrote: I send you mail in private, and the gmail interface is so bad that you don't notice. So, either post the .torrent so that other can test it, or keep your problems to yourself. Not gmail, I probably did that. Ha

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-20 Thread Mark
I'm just curious since ABS Doug didn't reply to my suggestions, have you read my reply? Here is the pertinent info below. It's clearly not a hardware problem, on the computer or router, since other OS's work fine. My previous reply: Nuno mentioned looking at your hardware, and it's possible the

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 01:44 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 1:34 AM: On 06/20/2010 12:50 AM, Mark Allums wrote: [snip] Throttling is just one possibility, and maybe (probably) not even the best guess. It's just a suggestion. I think throttling is more likely if you open lo

Re: This is why gmail sucks (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/19/2010 11:53 PM, ABS Doug wrote: I send you mail in private, and the gmail interface is so bad that you don't notice. So, either post the .torrent so that other can test it, or keep your problems to yourself. Not gmail, I probably did that. Habit as I don't want to be rude& send to the

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-19 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 1:34 AM: > On 06/20/2010 12:50 AM, Mark Allums wrote: > [snip] >> >> Throttling is just one possibility, and maybe (probably) not even the >> best guess. It's just a suggestion. >> >> I think throttling is more likely if you open lots of connections, so >> try usi

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 12:50 AM, Mark Allums wrote: [snip] Throttling is just one possibility, and maybe (probably) not even the best guess. It's just a suggestion. I think throttling is more likely if you open lots of connections, so try using fewer. Beyond about four, you won't see much improvement if

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-19 Thread Mark Allums
On 6/20/2010 12:04 AM, ABS Doug wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Mihira Fernando wrote: Do they throttle torrents when protocol encryption is enabled as well ? My isp here does the same thing with unencrypted torrents but no issues at all when protocol encryption is turned on. Thing

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Zoran Kolic
> Or just used Windows. I mean it works & it would seem there are a fair > amount of people that really don't like requests for help on the Linux > E-mail "help" lists. He-he! Contrary. I assume poster tries to solve the problem himself first. Aside of being polite, it is a fun to learn new things

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Tim Clewlow
> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Andrew Reid > wrote: >>  Is this only true of torrents, or is it also true of large >> downloads?  What happens if you try to pull a few megs of >> something? > > Usenet seems to work fine. But there I'm downloading in pieces of > course. Is the anything else

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/19/2010 11:59 PM, ABS Doug wrote: On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Andrew Reid wrote: Is this only true of torrents, or is it also true of large downloads? What happens if you try to pull a few megs of something? Usenet seems to work fine. But there I'm downloading in pieces of cours

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-19 Thread Mark Allums
On 6/19/2010 11:49 PM, Mihira Fernando wrote: On 06/20/2010 09:51 AM, Mark Allums wrote: I agree, in an ideal universe, torrents are a great innovation, and should be the standard method. Alas, in many places, by many ISPs, torrents are punished, throttled to the point of uselessness and worse.

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-19 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Mihira Fernando wrote: > Do they throttle torrents when protocol encryption is enabled as well ? My > isp here does the same thing with unencrypted torrents but no issues at all > when protocol encryption is turned on. Thing is, if I'm getting throttled, how com

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread ABS Doug
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Andrew Reid wrote: >  Is this only true of torrents, or is it also true of large > downloads?  What happens if you try to pull a few megs of > something? Usenet seems to work fine. But there I'm downloading in pieces of course. Is the anything else I can put throu

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-19 Thread Mihira Fernando
On 06/20/2010 09:51 AM, Mark Allums wrote: I agree, in an ideal universe, torrents are a great innovation, and should be the standard method. Alas, in many places, by many ISPs, torrents are punished, throttled to the point of uselessness and worse. Do they throttle torrents when protocol enc

Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-19 Thread ABS Doug
> My conclusion would be: some time has to > be spent to learn ins and outs of debian first. Next, to learn > how torrent works, including reading rfc or whatever similar. > Last, choose the application people use and help on forums or > irc channel. Or just used Windows. I mean it works & it woul

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