Re: top(1) and the meaning of columns

2006-11-03 Thread Miles Bader
Matus UHLAR - fantomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> In this case it means that the processes are trying to use more memory >> _actively_ than will fit in RAM, and you end up with a very high page >> fault rate, meaning your system spends much more time doing disk I/O >> to the swap area than it d

Re: top(1) and the meaning of columns

2006-11-03 Thread David Hart
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 10:12:11AM +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > "Tshepang Lekhonkhobe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> RES (aka RSS) is actually extremely important: if the sum of all > > >> programs' RSS exceeds your RAM size, your system will thrash, and > > >> thrashing is not go

Re: top(1) and the meaning of columns

2006-11-03 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> "Tshepang Lekhonkhobe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> RES (aka RSS) is actually extremely important: if the sum of all > >> programs' RSS exceeds your RAM size, your system will thrash, and > >> thrashing is not good. > > > > What does thrashing mean? On 03.11.06 11:58, Miles Bader wrote: > I

Re: top(1) and the meaning of columns

2006-11-02 Thread Miles Bader
"Tshepang Lekhonkhobe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> RES (aka RSS) is actually extremely important: if the sum of all >> programs' RSS exceeds your RAM size, your system will thrash, and >> thrashing is not good. > > What does thrashing mean? In this case it means that the processes are trying t

Re: top(1) and the meaning of columns

2006-11-01 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On 11/2/06, Russell L. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: >> RES (aka RSS) is actually extremely important: if the sum of all >> programs' RSS exceeds your RAM size, your system will thrash, and >> thrashing is not good. > What does thrashing mean? An example of thrash

Re: top(1) and the meaning of columns

2006-11-01 Thread Mike McCarty
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: What does thrashing mean? Literally, "thrashing" means beating repetedly. In this context it is being used figuratively. There are two possible meanings in this regard. One of them is when disc is being cached in faster memory (these days, RAM), but the algorithm fo

Re: top(1) and the meaning of columns

2006-11-01 Thread Russell L. Harris
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: RES (aka RSS) is actually extremely important: if the sum of all programs' RSS exceeds your RAM size, your system will thrash, and thrashing is not good. What does thrashing mean? An example of thrashing: You're hauling a ton of live chickens in a van rated for a h

Re: top(1) and the meaning of columns

2006-11-01 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On 11/1/06, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tim Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm not discounting the RES/SHR columns because they are indeed > interesting, but not entirely useful and as someone pointed out .. a bit > cryptic. RES (aka RSS) is actually extremely important: if the s

Re: top(1) and the meaning of columns

2006-10-31 Thread Miles Bader
Tim Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm not discounting the RES/SHR columns because they are indeed > interesting, but not entirely useful and as someone pointed out .. a bit > cryptic. RES (aka RSS) is actually extremely important: if the sum of all programs' RSS exceeds your RAM size, your

Re: top(1) and the meaning of columns

2006-10-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/31/06 09:14, Tim Post wrote: > On Tue, 2006-10-31 at 07:43 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] > Are you debugging or trying to figure out why contiguous blocks > are getting kind of small? No, just curmudgeonly about the size of popular apps. Wor

Re: top(1) and the meaning of columns

2006-10-31 Thread Olafur Jens Sigurdsson
Þann 2006-10-31, 08:20:45 (-0600) skrifaði Ron Johnson: > Ok, read that. Does it mean that RES is *in addition to* SHR? Thats not what the article says: "SHR is shared memory. Potentionally shared memory. I.e. memory that may be used not only by this particular app but also by some else. And act

Re: top(1) and the meaning of columns

2006-10-31 Thread Tim Post
On Tue, 2006-10-31 at 07:43 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > PID USER VIRT RES SHR %MEM COMMAND > > 19383 me249m 101m 26m 10.0 firefox-bin > > 19068 me197m 73m 22m 7.3 icedove-bin > > 23727 me172m 58m 40m 5.8 soffice.bin > > Does this mean th

Re: top(1) and the meaning of columns

2006-10-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/31/06 08:03, Olafur Jens Sigurdsson wrote: > Þann 2006-10-31, 07:43:00 (-0600) skrifaði Ron Johnson: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi, >> >> PID USER VIRT RES SHR %MEM COMMAND >> 19383 me249m 1

Re: top(1) and the meaning of columns

2006-10-31 Thread Olafur Jens Sigurdsson
Þann 2006-10-31, 07:43:00 (-0600) skrifaði Ron Johnson: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > PID USER VIRT RES SHR %MEM COMMAND > > 19383 me249m 101m 26m 10.0 firefox-bin > > 19068 me197m 73m 22m 7.3 icedove-bin > > 23727 me