Re: testing or stable

2015-04-29 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/29/2015 at 11:38 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 02:37:43PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> The "experimental" repository has no codename, at least not that I >> know of. It is used entirely for packages that developers want to >> make > > My understanding is that it i

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 02:37:43PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > The "experimental" repository has no codename, at least not that I know > of. It is used entirely for packages that developers want to make My understanding is that it is affectionally referred to as 'rc-buggy' -- "If you're not car

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 09:02:17AM -0700, Joris Bolsens wrote: > I've been using Debian Jessie for ~ a year now, now that it is stable > should I update to sid? or stick with jessie? > > I enjoy tinkering with everything, so I'm OK with things breaking or > needing some special configuration, hell

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Frank
On 28/04/15 04:58 PM, Ric Moore wrote: On 04/28/2015 04:56 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: And at the end of all that, it is still a matter of personal choice whether to move over or not. One man's meat is another man's poison. Exactly. The OP seemed to want some assurances. And, he has been provided

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/28/2015 04:56 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: And at the end of all that, it is still a matter of personal choice whether to move over or not. One man's meat is another man's poison. Exactly. The OP seemed to want some assurances. And, he has been provided the information that there are none, un

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 9 floréal, an CCXXIII, Francisco M Neto a écrit : > It did. However you have to consider that delaying the upgrade also has the > advantage of ironing out the package instability, and instead of regular > updates with eventual breaks you'd get a smoother transition. I believe this is not

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Francisco M Neto
On 04/28/2015 06:16 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Le nonidi 9 floréal, an CCXXIII, Lisi Reisz a écrit : And at the end of all that, it is still a matter of personal choice whether to move over or not. One man's meat is another man's poison. Yes. But to decide that it is necessary to have the facts

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 9 floréal, an CCXXIII, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > And at the end of all that, it is still a matter of personal choice > whether to move over or not. One man's meat is another man's poison. Yes. But to decide that it is necessary to have the facts straight. I suspect the OP was not completel

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 09:48:43 Nicolas George wrote: > Le nonidi 9 floréal, an CCXXIII, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > You ask if it is stable enough for a personal computer. How long is a > > piece of string? I personally would let it settle a bit before going > > over to Stretch. Others have test

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 9 floréal, an CCXXIII, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > You ask if it is stable enough for a personal computer. How long is a piece > of string? I personally would let it settle a bit before going over to > Stretch. Others have testing in their sources lists and went straight over > to Stretc

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread mudongliang
On Tue, 2015-04-28 at 09:16 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 28 April 2015 07:10:56 慕冬亮 wrote: > > > About stability, I wonder testing version is enough for me?Though I > > > certainly see someone in the mailing list saying that testing version is > > > very stable , I want to ask it again?

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 07:10:56 慕冬亮 wrote: > > About stability,  I wonder testing version is enough for me?Though I > > certainly see someone in the mailing list saying that testing version is > > very stable ,  I want to ask it again? Is it stable for personal computer > > ,not workstation or se

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Joe
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 01:33:06 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: > > There are those users who stay continuously with Sid, and my hat is > off to them. Thank you. Sid is indeed becoming interesting again, more than 130 upgrades last night. I assume the new testing is also waking up, there would have been

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/28/2015 02:10 AM, 慕冬亮 wrote: About stability, I wonder testing version is enough for me? Though I certainly see someone in the mailing list saying that testing version is very stable , I want to ask it again? Is it stable for personal computer ,not workstation or server? Thank you in adv

RE: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread 慕冬亮
> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 01:33:06 -0400 > From: wayward4...@gmail.com > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: testing or stable > > On 04/28/2015 01:00 AM, mudongliang wrote: > > On Mon, 2015-04-27 at 13:38 -0300, Francisco M Neto wrote: > >> I'

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/28/2015 01:00 AM, mudongliang wrote: On Mon, 2015-04-27 at 13:38 -0300, Francisco M Neto wrote: I'd recommend staying with jessie for a few months since testing is going to be just the same until new packages start popping up from sid. Personally I've been using jessie for about the same

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread mudongliang
On Mon, 2015-04-27 at 13:38 -0300, Francisco M Neto wrote: > I'd recommend staying with jessie for a few months since testing is > going to be just the same until new packages start popping up from sid. > > Personally I've been using jessie for about the same time and intend to > move to stretc

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Bret Busby
On 28/04/2015, The Wanderer wrote: > On 04/27/2015 at 02:12 PM, Bret Busby wrote: >> The next more stable version, is the "olderstable" (?) version, >> which is the last previous "oldstable" version, and, which has a >> version name, that is bubbled down from the "oldstable" version, when >> a

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/27/2015 at 02:11 PM, songbird wrote: > Joris Bolsens wrote: > >> sorry, I was under the impression that it went wheezy -> Jessie -> >> Sid > > a few days ago that would have been accurate, but as of the release > of Jessie Wheezy is now oldstable, Jessie is stable, testing is > testing (bu

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Joe
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:59:58 -0500 Tim Kelley wrote: > True that. When you run unstable or testing it's best to take great > care when updating or installing anything, as in sid installing > something can trigger a shitstorm depending on what was uploaded that > day ... stable only for me these d

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Tim Kelley
True that. When you run unstable or testing it's best to take great care when updating or installing anything, as in sid installing something can trigger a shitstorm depending on what was uploaded that day ... stable only for me these days. Tim Kelley On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Sven Hartg

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Joe
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 02:12:02 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > > My understanding, and, I stand to be corrected in this belief, > follows, below. > > Sid = "experimental" - the name Sid is permanent for the experimental > version, and is so named, because the character Sid, in Toy Story, the > origin

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/27/2015 at 02:12 PM, Bret Busby wrote: > On 28/04/2015, Joris Bolsens wrote: >> sorry, I was under the impression that it went wheezy -> Jessie -> >> Sid >> > > Hello. > > I believe that this is part of the confusion that occurs, due to the > use of version names for versions and status

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread songbird
Joris Bolsens wrote: > > sorry, I was under the impression that it went wheezy -> Jessie -> Sid a few days ago that would have been accurate, but as of the release of Jessie Wheezy is now oldstable, Jessie is stable, testing is testing (but some people will call it Stretch even if Stretch isn't

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Bret Busby
On 28/04/2015, Joris Bolsens wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > sorry, I was under the impression that it went wheezy -> Jessie -> Sid > Hello. I believe that this is part of the confusion that occurs, due to the use of version names for versions and status. My under

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/27/2015 at 12:49 PM, Joris Bolsens wrote: > sorry, I was under the impression that it went wheezy -> Jessie -> > Sid It goes stable -> testing -> unstable. Each of these three has a codename. The codename for unstable is always sid. The codenames for the other releases change whenever a

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Joris Bolsens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 sorry, I was under the impression that it went wheezy -> Jessie -> Sid I meant stretch xD On 04/27/2015 09:48 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > So if you want to go on tinkering, update to Stretch! Otherwise > stick to Jessie. > > Or you could go to Sid

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 27 April 2015 17:02:17 Joris Bolsens wrote: > I've been using Debian Jessie for ~ a year now, now that it is stable > should I update to sid? or stick with jessie? Why Sid? Why not Stretch? > I enjoy tinkering with everything, so I'm OK with things breaking or > needing some special co

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Francisco M Neto
I'd recommend staying with jessie for a few months since testing is going to be just the same until new packages start popping up from sid. Personally I've been using jessie for about the same time and intend to move to stretch in a few months - quite possibly after the first couple of point r

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 27 April 2015 at 17:05, Pete Orrall wrote: > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Joris Bolsens > wrote: > > I've been using Debian Jessie for ~ a year now, now that it is stable > > should I update to sid? or stick with jessie? > ​I guess you could move either to be testing or sid from jessie.

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Sven Hartge
Joris Bolsens wrote: > I've been using Debian Jessie for ~ a year now, now that it is stable > should I update to sid? or stick with jessie? > I enjoy tinkering with everything, so I'm OK with things breaking or > needing some special configuration, hell I'll even patch a thing and > recompile f

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Pete Orrall
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Joris Bolsens wrote: > I've been using Debian Jessie for ~ a year now, now that it is stable > should I update to sid? or stick with jessie? Jessie was released as the new stable distribution this past Saturday (4-25-2015). You shouldn't have any problems runnin