systemd-journald fails to start due to corrupted /etc/machine-id (was: Re: systemd-journald fails)

2016-12-11 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Rainer Dorsch: But to my surprise even on a fresh install of the jessie image /etc/machine-id is already broken: root@scw-790923:~# cat /etc/machine-id 9d1b906dd5ea40359e2071d29c12aabe 71f root@scw-790923:~# But it seems the systemd version in jessie seems to be more tolerant against br

Re: systemd-journald fails to start due to corrupted /etc/machine-id (was: Re: systemd-journald fails)

2016-12-10 Thread Rainer Dorsch
On Saturday 10 December 2016 16:35:50 Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 10.12.2016 um 13:38 schrieb Rainer Dorsch: > > > root@scw:~# cat /etc/machine-id 26da2c29c6a545fd9af95d29ca9b5a5a 6df > > root@scw:~# > > > > Not sure how the 6df ended in /etc/machine-id, but after removing > > that things seem to

systemd-journald fails to start due to corrupted /etc/machine-id (was: Re: systemd-journald fails)

2016-12-10 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 10.12.2016 um 13:38 schrieb Rainer Dorsch: > root@scw:~# cat /etc/machine-id 26da2c29c6a545fd9af95d29ca9b5a5a 6df > root@scw:~# > > Not sure how the 6df ended in /etc/machine-id, but after removing > that things seem to have settled: > I upgraded from a fresh jessie installation (image from

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-10 Thread Rainer Dorsch
On Friday 09 December 2016 22:16:42 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Rainer Dorsch: > > [ 20.704584] systemd[1]: Initializing machine ID from D-Bus machine ID. > > > > [ 20.916182] systemd-journald[2136]: Failed to open runtime journal: > > Invalid argument > > > > You need to look at at least

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-10 Thread Rainer Dorsch
On Friday 09 December 2016 22:43:29 Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 04.12.2016 um 16:18 schrieb Rainer Dorsch: > > The system is hosted at scaleway, i.e. it is not a Debian kernel, which > > is running. > > What kernel is that? I wrote before it is a hosted machine @scaleway. They claim a KVM setup, b

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-09 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Rainer Dorsch: [ 20.704584] systemd[1]: Initializing machine ID from D-Bus machine ID. [ 20.916182] systemd-journald[2136]: Failed to open runtime journal: Invalid argument You need to look at at least two files, /var/lib/dbus/machine-id and /etc/machine-id . They should contain only a 12

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-09 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 04.12.2016 um 16:18 schrieb Rainer Dorsch: > The system is hosted at scaleway, i.e. it is not a Debian kernel, which > is running. What kernel is that? Can you check if all requirements as outlined in /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.gz are fulfilled? -- Why is it that all of the instruments se

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-09 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hi Jonathan, many thanks for your response. On Tuesday 06 December 2016 00:04:04 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Rainer Dorsch: > > > I think this then results in errors during an apt-get upgrade: > > It does indeed. It is systemd-journald that resides at the server end > of /dev/log on a

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-05 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Rainer Dorsch: > I think this then results in errors during an apt-get upgrade: It does indeed. It is systemd-journald that resides at the server end of /dev/log on a systemd operating system. Quite a lot of other stuff will break for you if you don't have a running systemd-journald, because

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-05 Thread emetib
hey rainer yeah i wouldn't go with sid, it's fun to play around with yet not for a server install. sysinit vs systemd is up to you. i haven't had a problem with systemd, it's just another thing that you have to read about to get the hang of it. you will have to forgive me for not reading all

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-05 Thread Dan Ritter
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 07:07:45PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > > take a look at this forum for all of the discussions on sysinit vs systemd. > > > > Hmm...do you suggest to go to sysvinit? Hmmm... http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_install

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 07:07:45PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > Jessie is also using systemd (?). Yes, jessie is the first release to use systemd by default. (It was available in wheezy as a "technology preview" only.) You're also allowed to run jessie using sysvinit, but this is not the defaul

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-05 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hi emetib, On Monday 05 December 2016 08:47:55 emetib wrote: > quick question for you. > > if you wanted to have stretch, why did you install jessie and then upgrade > instead of just installing stretch? > > https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ scaleway offered jessie and sid as read

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 08:47:55AM -0800, emetib wrote: > if you wanted to have stretch, why did you install jessie and then upgrade > instead of just installing stretch? Because until the stretch installer is ready for prime time, that is the safest way to get stretch. > https://www.debian.org/

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-05 Thread emetib
quick question for you. if you wanted to have stretch, why did you install jessie and then upgrade instead of just installing stretch? https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ i've personally found it's better to just install the testing image right away instead of doing a dist-upgrade.

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-05 Thread Rainer Dorsch
On Sunday 04 December 2016 16:47:48 emetib wrote: > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:10:04 PM UTC-6, deloptes wrote: > > > /dev/log > ? > > try and take a look at 'journalctl -b 0' > that might give some info or you can look at '/var/log/messages' and/or > '/var/log/syslog'. those last two kind

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-04 Thread emetib
On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:10:04 PM UTC-6, deloptes wrote: > /dev/log ? try and take a look at 'journalctl -b 0' that might give some info or you can look at '/var/log/messages' and/or '/var/log/syslog'. those last two kind of depends on how your systemd is set up. take care em

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-04 Thread deloptes
Rainer Dorsch wrote: > The system is hosted at scaleway, i.e. it is not a Debian kernel, which is > running. would you mind if we know what is the kernel and the systemd version? I don't think it is a kernel issue though. You see your systemd-journal fails to start so you don't provide /dev/log