Re: systemd/cgroups changing permissions (was: Re: Effectively criticizing decisions you disagree with in Debian)

2014-09-22 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:35:59AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: >> 2014/09/22 5:21 "Ansgar Burchardt" : >> > >> > Hi Joel, >> > >> > Joel Rees writes: >> > > (6) systemd and cgroups (at minimum) end up overriding the permissions >> > > system.

Re: systemd/cgroups changing permissions

2014-09-22 Thread Joel Rees
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:56 AM, Ric Moore wrote: > On 09/22/2014 10:27 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:35:59AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > >>> When I can, I'll file a bug report. If ever. >>> >>> I know the theory, so I don't use those, so it's not a high priority for >>

Re: systemd/cgroups changing permissions

2014-09-22 Thread Ric Moore
On 09/22/2014 10:27 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:35:59AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: When I can, I'll file a bug report. If ever. I know the theory, so I don't use those, so it's not a high priority for me. If you are interested, read the manuals,do the math, it falls ou

Re: systemd/cgroups changing permissions (was: Re: Effectively criticizing decisions you disagree with in Debian)

2014-09-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:35:59AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > 2014/09/22 5:21 "Ansgar Burchardt" : > > > > Hi Joel, > > > > Joel Rees writes: > > > (6) systemd and cgroups (at minimum) end up overriding the permissions > > > system. It's bad enough having SELinux and ACLs brought in to knock > > >

Re: systemd/cgroups changing permissions (was: Re: Effectively criticizing decisions you disagree with in Debian)

2014-09-21 Thread Joel Rees
2014/09/22 5:21 "Ansgar Burchardt" : > > Hi Joel, > > Joel Rees writes: > > (6) systemd and cgroups (at minimum) end up overriding the permissions > > system. It's bad enough having SELinux and ACLs brought in to knock > > holes in the permissions system, but when arbitrary non-kernel system > > f