Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

Stefan Monnier writes: > Sometimes I used cloned another system, and other times I used > Debootstrap running from one of the "images" provided by the board maker > (all those images suck, IMO: they're never designed with updates in mind). Indeed, thanks. Previously I've dismissed these patched

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

>> I've never used Debian's installer on those boards, and don't even know >> if Debian officially "supports" them. > So how do you install Debian on those ARM boards? Put some image on > whatever storage they have? Sometimes I used cloned another system, and other times I used Debootstrap running

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

Stefan Monnier writes: > I've never used Debian's installer on those boards, and don't even know > if Debian officially "supports" them. So how do you install Debian on those ARM boards? Put some image on whatever storage they have? In fact, that's what I've done with my Raspberry Pi Computer Mo

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

Anssi Saari [2024-12-30 18:16:25] wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> FWIW, I've been using ARM-based SBCs for more than 10 years (4 different >> boards, I'm ashamed to say) and have used Debian on all of them. So no: >> you don't need Armbian to make use of that kind of hardware. > OK, which ones

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

Stefan Monnier writes: > FWIW, I've been using ARM-based SBCs for more than 10 years (4 different > boards, I'm ashamed to say) and have used Debian on all of them. So no: > you don't need Armbian to make use of that kind of hardware. OK, which ones? I'm only aware of the Rock64 and it's not ex

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On 29/12/2024 01:06, gene heskett wrote: It runs when it gets around to it, opening a local file is an automatic lockup for 30 seconds. And no one has identified that problem. Nobody can guess what the mess you are able to create on your machines. If you did not hate systemd then you would hav

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

>> Armbian is *NOT* Debian They do things differently there. Some of their [...] > Then you are missing out on the many things a pi clone can do on 5% of an > amd64's power budget. Granted the amd64 can do it 20x faster, ignoring that > the pi clone is fast enough. Debian seems to treat the arm64'

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

Hi, On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 06:38:16PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 12/28/24 15:49, Andy Smith wrote: > > What would have been useful for you to tell us at this point or in any > > of your other replies: > > > > - How exactly you are trying to run synaptic on these Banana Pi > >computers,

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 01:56:06AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [...] > I'm running one, about a year old now, on an actual rpi4b to run my biggest > lathe, but the last arm64 installer can't find its net interface even if you > fill in the blanks.  Armbian Just Works. Why can't debian-arm? I have

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On 12/29/24 01:30, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 07:46:09PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 12/28/24 16:41, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [...] Armbian is *NOT* Debian They do things differently there [...] Then you are missing out on the many things a pi clone can do on 5% of

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 07:46:09PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > On 12/28/24 16:41, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [...] > > Armbian is *NOT* Debian They do things differently there [...] > Then you are missing out on the many things a pi clone can do on 5% of an > amd64's power budget. Granted the

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On 12/28/24 16:41, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 01:06:11PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: armbian in the full desktop version runs noticeably slower than it runs on amd64 stuff, but its more than fast enough to run a full screen gui for a 3d printer.  I'll gladly tolerate a jus

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On 12/28/24 15:49, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 01:06:11PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 12/28/24 08:24, Andy Smith wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:53:41PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: Synaptic is a GUI frontend to apt. It's not really much different to aptitude, except tha

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

gene heskett wrote: > > On 12/28/24 08:24, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:53:41PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: > >> On 28/12/2024 10:06, Andy Smith wrote: > >>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 08:26:26PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > When is that going to happen? Trying to

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 01:06:11PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > armbian in the full desktop version runs noticeably slower than it runs on > amd64 stuff, but its more than fast enough to run a full screen gui for a 3d > printer.  I'll gladly tolerate a just noticeable lag that never crashes, > u

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

Hi, On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 01:06:11PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 12/28/24 08:24, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:53:41PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > Synaptic is a GUI frontend to apt. It's not really much different to > > > aptitude, except that it's maybe a bit more mo

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On Sat 28 Dec 2024 at 01:07:58 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > On 12/27/24 23:36, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 27 Dec 2024 at 20:26:26 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > > > When is that going to happen? Trying to maintain debian-arm stuff > > > blind is a pita. I want to SEE whats available. > > I kn

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On 12/28/24 08:24, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:53:41PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: On 28/12/2024 10:06, Andy Smith wrote: On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 08:26:26PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: When is that going to happen? Trying to maintain debian-arm stuff blind is a pita. I wa

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On 12/28/24 09:43, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:53:41 +, Darac Marjal wrote: You can run X clients on the server and remotely display that on a workstation (i.e. something _with_ a head), but AFAIK the wayland protocol doesn't support any sort of network transport (you c

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:13:18 -0500, Lee wrote: > Copy/paste is a requirement for me also. If your terminal program > doesn't do what you want, take a look at the current version of > xfce4-terminal - that has most of what I was looking for. One thing that *might* be relevant here is that X11

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 1:08 AM gene heskett wrote: > > > On 12/27/24 23:36, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 27 Dec 2024 at 20:26:26 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > >> When is that going to happen? Trying to maintain debian-arm stuff > >> blind is a pita. I want to SEE whats available. > > I know y

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:53:41 +, Darac Marjal wrote: >> You can run X clients on the server and remotely display that on a >> workstation (i.e. something _with_ a head), but AFAIK the wayland protocol >> doesn't support any sort of network transport (you can run a GUI

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:53:41 +, Darac Marjal wrote: > You can run X clients on the server and remotely display that on a > workstation (i.e. something _with_ a head), but AFAIK the wayland protocol > doesn't support any sort of network transport (you can run a GUI application > on a Wayland

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

Hi, On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:53:41PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: > > On 28/12/2024 10:06, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 08:26:26PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > When is that going to happen? Trying to maintain debian-arm stuff blind > > > is a > > > pita. I want to SEE whats

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On 28/12/2024 10:06, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 08:26:26PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: When is that going to happen? Trying to maintain debian-arm stuff blind is a pita. I want to SEE whats available. I have never in my life felt the need to use synaptic. What am I missing o

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

Hi, On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 10:35:44PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > I know you won't use aptitude, so why don't you try running > synaptic on wayland, decide what changes you want, and then > use sudo apt to actually install/remove the packages. I think Gene's situation is probably also complicat

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

Hi, On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 08:26:26PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > When is that going to happen? Trying to maintain debian-arm stuff blind is a > pita. I want to SEE whats available. I have never in my life felt the need to use synaptic. What am I missing out on? I just use "apt" from a termina

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On 12/27/24 23:36, David Wright wrote: On Fri 27 Dec 2024 at 20:26:26 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: When is that going to happen? Trying to maintain debian-arm stuff blind is a pita. I want to SEE whats available. I know you won't use aptitude, so why don't you try running synaptic on wayland,

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On Fri 27 Dec 2024 at 20:26:26 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > When is that going to happen? Trying to maintain debian-arm stuff > blind is a pita. I want to SEE whats available. I know you won't use aptitude, so why don't you try running synaptic on wayland, decide what changes you want, and then

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On 12/27/24 23:04, gene heskett wrote: On 12/27/24 22:47, gene heskett wrote: On 12/27/24 21:30, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 21:07:27 -0500, gene heskett wrote: gene@bpi51e5p:~$ synaptic-pkexec AUTHENTICATING FOR com.ubuntu.pkexec.synaptic === Authentication is requir

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On 12/27/24 22:47, gene heskett wrote: On 12/27/24 21:30, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 21:07:27 -0500, gene heskett wrote: gene@bpi51e5p:~$ synaptic-pkexec AUTHENTICATING FOR com.ubuntu.pkexec.synaptic === Authentication is required to run the Synaptic Package Manager Au

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 22:37:25 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > > following this thread I installed policykit-gnome and policykit-mate but > still misses the mark with a similar error msg: > >

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On 12/27/24 21:30, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 21:07:27 -0500, gene heskett wrote: gene@bpi51e5p:~$ synaptic-pkexec AUTHENTICATING FOR com.ubuntu.pkexec.synaptic === Authentication is required to run the Synaptic Package Manager Authenticating as: Gene Heskett,,, (gene) P

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On 12/27/24 21:30, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 21:07:27 -0500, gene heskett wrote: gene@bpi51e5p:~$ synaptic-pkexec AUTHENTICATING FOR com.ubuntu.pkexec.synaptic === Authentication is required to run the Synaptic Package Manager Authenticating as: Gene Heskett,,, (gene) P

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On 12/27/24 21:30, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 21:07:27 -0500, gene heskett wrote: gene@bpi51e5p:~$ synaptic-pkexec AUTHENTICATING FOR com.ubuntu.pkexec.synaptic === Authentication is required to run the Synaptic Package Manager Authenticating as: Gene Heskett,,, (gene) P

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 21:07:27 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > gene@bpi51e5p:~$ synaptic-pkexec > AUTHENTICATING FOR com.ubuntu.pkexec.synaptic === > Authentication is required to run the Synaptic Package Manager > Authenticating as: Gene Heskett,,, (gene) > Password: > polkit-agent-helper-1: e

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On 12/27/24 20:37, Christian Britz wrote: Hi Gene Am 28.12.24 um 02:26 schrieb gene heskett: When is that going to happen? Trying to maintain debian-arm stuff blind is a pita. I want to SEE whats available. I just switched KDE Plasma to wayland, to test. synaptic-pkexec runs perfectly (witho

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

Hi Gene Am 28.12.24 um 02:26 schrieb gene heskett: > When is that going to happen? Trying to maintain debian-arm stuff blind > is a pita. I want to SEE whats available. I just switched KDE Plasma to wayland, to test. synaptic-pkexec runs perfectly (without sudo). Why would you want to use sudo?