Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9

2018-12-31 Thread John Hasler
The Debian upgrade will run ldconfig and the Debian maintainers are not likely to get it wrong. I'll concede that it might be possible to bugger up your system in such a way as to make an upgrade fail by installing a sufficiently broken package in /usr/local but it's going to be a rare corner case

Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9

2018-12-30 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 08:37:38AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > You wouldn't be installing something in /usr/local/lib that shadows the > SONAME of a library that is in the Debian archive (as it will be if a > binary from a Debian package is searching for it) unless the "funny > results" are what

Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9

2018-12-30 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > Nothing wrong with that as long as you install in /usr/local and realize > that you may have to recompile after an upgrade. Reco writes: > You install any library in /usr/local/lib, run ldconfig and every > binary will start searching libraries there first. That can always > lead to fun

Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9

2018-12-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 03:26:48PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Reco writes: > > Or, in this particular case, follow "good old" > > configure-make-make_install pattern. > > Nothing wrong with that as long as you install in /usr/local and realize > that you may have to recompile after a

Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9

2018-12-29 Thread Reco
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 04:12:53PM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 11:06:37PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 02:40:41PM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > > > while people paying $$$ for RHEL support > > > contracts were always told, "wipe and reinsta

Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9

2018-12-29 Thread John Hasler
Reco writes: > Or, in this particular case, follow "good old" > configure-make-make_install pattern. Nothing wrong with that as long as you install in /usr/local and realize that you may have to recompile after an upgrade. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9

2018-12-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 11:06:37PM +0300, Reco wrote: > On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 02:40:41PM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > while people paying $$$ for RHEL support > > contracts were always told, "wipe and reinstall" was at least part of > > what moved Red Hat to start providing support for

Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9

2018-12-29 Thread Reco
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 02:40:41PM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On the other hand, I have done in-place upgrades of Debian on every > occasion Ditto. Worked better than they tell on this list to the newcomers. This particular installation I'm writing from began its life as etch back before i

Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9

2018-12-29 Thread John Hasler
Roberto's experience matches mine. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9

2018-12-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 10:56:51AM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 12/29/18 6:36 AM, mik...@corigroup.it wrote: > > I couple of days ago I've upgraded from 8 (jessie) to 9 (stretch) ... > > In years past, I tried doing major version upgrades in-place. It seemed > like no matter how many issu

Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9

2018-12-29 Thread David Christensen
On 12/29/18 6:36 AM, mik...@corigroup.it wrote: I couple of days ago I've upgraded from 8 (jessie) to 9 (stretch) ... In years past, I tried doing major version upgrades in-place. It seemed like no matter how many issues I tracked down and fixed, another would emerge. I had no confidence in

Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9

2018-12-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 04:15:07PM +0100, mik...@corigroup.it wrote: > > So I've performed an elegant: > rm -rf /usr/local/lib/* > lddconfig > > and now mpv is working :) > > It looks like /usr/local/lib/ was getting priority over the other libraries > and /usr/local/lib/ was full of old stuff f

Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9

2018-12-29 Thread mik...@corigroup.it
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 10:13:35 -0500 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 04:01:15PM +0100, mik...@corigroup.it wrote: > > > > root@linux:~# apt-cache policy `dpkg -S /usr/bin/mpv` > > mpv: > > Installed: 0.23.0-2+deb9u2 > > Candidate: 0.23.0-2+deb9u2 > > Version table: > > *

Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9

2018-12-29 Thread mik...@corigroup.it
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 16:01:15 +0100 "mik...@corigroup.it" wrote: > On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 09:50:13 -0500 > Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 03:36:40PM +0100, mik...@corigroup.it wrote: > > > I couple of days ago I've upgraded from 8 (jessie) to 9 (stretch) > > > taking care

Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9

2018-12-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 04:01:15PM +0100, mik...@corigroup.it wrote: > > root@linux:~# apt-cache policy `dpkg -S /usr/bin/mpv` > mpv: > Installed: 0.23.0-2+deb9u2 > Candidate: 0.23.0-2+deb9u2 > Version table: > *** 0.23.0-2+deb9u2 500 > 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch/main

Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9

2018-12-29 Thread mik...@corigroup.it
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 09:50:13 -0500 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 03:36:40PM +0100, mik...@corigroup.it wrote: > > I couple of days ago I've upgraded from 8 (jessie) to 9 (stretch) > > taking care of removing third-party repositories before upgrading, in my > > /etc/apt/sour

Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9

2018-12-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 03:36:40PM +0100, mik...@corigroup.it wrote: > I couple of days ago I've upgraded from 8 (jessie) to 9 (stretch) > taking care of removing third-party repositories before upgrading, in my > /etc/apt/sources.list file, > which is now as follows: > > deb http://deb.debian.or