Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-16 Thread Tim Clewlow
> Is it? > Let's look at /etc/X11/Xsession > $ grep HOME /etc/X11/Xsession > USRRESOURCES=$HOME/.Xresources > USERXSESSION=$HOME/.xsession > USERXSESSIONRC=$HOME/.xsessionrc > ALTUSERXSESSION=$HOME/.Xsession > ERRFILE=$HOME/.xsession-errors > $ grep USERXSESSION /etc/X11/Xsession /etc/X11/Xsession.

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-16 Thread Tim Clewlow
> On Friday 16 October 2009 13:42:25 Tim Clewlow wrote: >> Ok, I found out that there is an error in the .xsession file, the >> correct version is below, note the line 'icewm &' has now become >> 'icewm-session &' - this should bring back the correct background >> and hopefully the mouse will beha

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:33:17AM +1100, Tim Clewlow wrote: > > On Wednesday 14 October 2009 00:34:57 Tim Clewlow wrote: > >> > On Tuesday 13 October 2009 10:43:21 Tim Clewlow wrote: > >> >> You can rearrange the order in which things are started in > your > >> >> .xsession file, ie you dont have

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-16 Thread Lisi
On Friday 16 October 2009 13:42:25 Tim Clewlow wrote: > Ok, I found out that there is an error in the .xsession file, the > correct version is below, note the line 'icewm &' has now become > 'icewm-session &' - this should bring back the correct background > and hopefully the mouse will behave nore

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-16 Thread Lisi
On Friday 16 October 2009 13:06:42 Tim Clewlow wrote: > > But there is still this grey greying out grid over everything > > instead of a > > desktop with icons that are not covered by a grid of any kind! > And > > if I > > use .bash_profile to start X and then start idesk from a terminal > I > > ge

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-16 Thread Tim Clewlow
Ok, I found out that there is an error in the .xsession file, the correct version is below, note the line 'icewm &' has now become 'icewm-session &' - this should bring back the correct background and hopefully the mouse will behave noremally again :-) #!/bin/sh xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults & icewm-se

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-16 Thread Tim Clewlow
> On Friday 16 October 2009 11:10:04 Tim Clewlow wrote: >> lol - that error makes quite a difference. It means pretty much what >> it says, ie X is already running, or, the combination of config files means the system ends up trying to start X twice. > Yes, I am very sorry. I know that it is essen

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-16 Thread Lisi
On Friday 16 October 2009 11:10:04 Tim Clewlow wrote: > lol - that error makes quite a difference. It means pretty much what > it says, ie X is already running, or, the combination of config > files means the system ends up trying to start X twice. Yes, I am very sorry. I know that it is essentia

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-16 Thread Tim Clewlow
> On Friday 16 October 2009 01:33:17 Tim Clewlow wrote: >> It sounds like your system is not using the xsession method of >> managing an X session, which means it is using the native xinit method. That's ok, and just as easy to work with. First check if you >> have a file called .xinitrc in your ho

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-16 Thread Lisi
On Friday 16 October 2009 01:33:17 Tim Clewlow wrote: > It sounds like your system is not using the xsession method of > managing an X session, which means it is using the native xinit > method. That's ok, and just as easy to work with. First check if you > have a file called .xinitrc in your home

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-15 Thread Tim Clewlow
> On Wednesday 14 October 2009 00:34:57 Tim Clewlow wrote: >> > On Tuesday 13 October 2009 10:43:21 Tim Clewlow wrote: >> >> You can rearrange the order in which things are started in your >> >> .xsession file, ie you dont have to start the window manager >> last. >> > [snip] >> >> Basically, when

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-15 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 14 October 2009 00:34:57 Tim Clewlow wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 October 2009 10:43:21 Tim Clewlow wrote: > >> You can rearrange the order in which things are started in your > >> .xsession file, ie you dont have to start the window manager last. > > > > [snip] > > > >> Basically, when th

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-13 Thread Tim Clewlow
> On Tuesday 13 October 2009 10:43:21 Tim Clewlow wrote: >> You can rearrange the order in which things are started in your >> .xsession file, ie you dont have to start the window manager last. > [snip] >> Basically, when the script finishes, X will close - so dont let >> the >> script finish - tha

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-13 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 13 October 2009 10:43:21 Tim Clewlow wrote: > You can rearrange the order in which things are started in your > .xsession file, ie you dont have to start the window manager last. [snip] > Basically, when the script finishes, X will close - so dont let the > script finish - thats what the

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-13 Thread Lisi
On Monday 12 October 2009 23:02:19 Nuno Magalhães wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 22:52, Lisi wrote: > [...] > > > Yes.  But I omitted to mention that because I forgot, that putting an & > > after both startx and Idesk results in Idesk running correctly - but only > > if and when I open a termina

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-13 Thread Tim Clewlow
> I don't run the xserver by entering startx in the console. I have it starting > and running automatically via an entry in ~/.bash_profile. >> All entries in your .Xsession or similar must end with &, so >> they'll >> run in the background, except the last one. This last one should be >> your win

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-12 Thread Lisi
On Monday 12 October 2009 22:56:28 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 09:32:55PM +0100, Lisi wrote: > > The box boots automatically into IceWM in 32 seconds from a standing > > start. > > > > I have Idesk configured to my satisfaction, and it runs beautifully if I > > start it m

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-12 Thread Lorenzo Beretta
Lisi ha scritto: The box boots automatically into IceWM in 32 seconds from a standing start. I have Idesk configured to my satisfaction, and it runs beautifully if I start it manually after I have booted up and IceWM is running. Any attempt, however, to make Idesk also start automatically, r

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-12 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 22:52, Lisi wrote: [...] > Yes.  But I omitted to mention that because I forgot, that putting an & after > both startx and Idesk results in Idesk running correctly - but only if and > when I open a terminal: and Idesk then closes when I shut the terminal down. Why are you

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 09:32:55PM +0100, Lisi wrote: > The box boots automatically into IceWM in 32 seconds from a standing start. > > I have Idesk configured to my satisfaction, and it runs beautifully if I > start > it manually after I have booted up and IceWM is running. > > Any attempt,

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-12 Thread Lisi
On Monday 12 October 2009 22:25:03 Nuno Magalhães wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 21:32, Lisi wrote: > [...] > > > Any attempt, however, to make Idesk also start automatically, results in > > Idesk running fine - but not X and IceWM.  The desktop looks odd (as if > > it hasn't finished loading),

Re: starting Idesk automatically in IceWM on Lenny

2009-10-12 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 21:32, Lisi wrote: [...] > Any attempt, however, to make Idesk also start automatically, results in Idesk > running fine - but not X and IceWM.  The desktop looks odd (as if it hasn't > finished loading), and although all the icons work and the applications start > up and f