Re: smooth upgrades

2007-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 10:38:09AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > spoke too soon. firefox keeps dying with: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ firefox > /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error:\ > /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: \ > cairo_scaled_font_get_font

Re: smooth upgrades

2007-01-14 Thread tom arnall
spoke too soon. firefox keeps dying with: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ firefox /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error:\ /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: \ cairo_scaled_font_get_font_options tom arnall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PR

Re: smooth upgrades

2007-01-13 Thread tom arnall
spoke too soon. firefox keeps dying with the message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ firefox /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error:\ /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol:\ cairo_scaled_font_get_font_options and sometimes i get with th

Re: smooth upgrades

2007-01-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 12:55:35PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > i did the dist-upgrade y'day and e'thing i can remember to look at is fixed. > what a treasure this maillist! yay! enjoy. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: smooth upgrades

2007-01-13 Thread tom arnall
i did the dist-upgrade y'day and e'thing i can remember to look at is fixed. what a treasure this maillist! tom arnall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: smooth upgrades

2007-01-11 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:24:40 -0500 Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 14:03 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 11:35:03PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > debian:/etc/apt# cat apt.conf > > > > APT::Defa

Re: Mis/Dis information (was Re: smooth upgrades)

2007-01-11 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:23:33 -0500 Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 23:35 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:21:16 -0800 > > tom arnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > i have my apt-get parameter files set up properly, i think, but

Re: smooth upgrades

2007-01-11 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 14:03 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 11:35:03PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > > > > > > debian:/etc/apt# cat apt.conf > > > APT::Default-Release "etch"; > > > > It's not related to your problem, but 'etch' doesn't work as a > > Defa

Mis/Dis information (was Re: smooth upgrades)

2007-01-11 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 23:35 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:21:16 -0800 > tom arnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > i have my apt-get parameter files set up properly, i think, but when > > i do an apt-cache policy i don't like what i get, as follows: > > > > deb

Re: smooth upgrades

2007-01-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 11:35:03PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > > > debian:/etc/apt# cat apt.conf > > APT::Default-Release "etch"; > > It's not related to your problem, but 'etch' doesn't work as a > Default-Release. You must use 'testing'. Also this options is needed > only if y

Re: smooth upgrades

2007-01-11 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:21:16 -0800 tom arnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 10 January 2007 15:35, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 03:28:55PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > > On Tuesday 09 January 2007 23:08, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2

Re: smooth upgrades

2007-01-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 12:21:16PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > On Wednesday 10 January 2007 15:35, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > Okay, I would say at this point you should probably go ahead and > > dist-upgrade yourself to get caught up. I don't know how long its been > > since you upgraded,

Re: smooth upgrades

2007-01-11 Thread tom arnall
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 15:35, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 03:28:55PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > On Tuesday 09 January 2007 23:08, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 05:19:51PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > > > > > i replaced 'testing' with '

Re: smooth upgrades

2007-01-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 03:28:55PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > On Tuesday 09 January 2007 23:08, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 05:19:51PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > > > > i replaced 'testing' with 'etch' today and haven't used apt-get > > > > > since. > > > > > > > > > >

Re: smooth upgrades

2007-01-10 Thread tom arnall
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 23:08, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 05:19:51PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > > > i replaced 'testing' with 'etch' today and haven't used apt-get > > > > since. > > > > > > > > how do i tell which version (testing/stable) i'm running? > > > > > > y

Re: smooth upgrades

2007-01-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 05:19:51PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > > > i replaced 'testing' with 'etch' today and haven't used apt-get since. > > > > > > how do i tell which version (testing/stable) i'm running? > > > > you'll have to check the version numbers of a few things. I don't know > > how ap

Re: smooth upgrades

2007-01-09 Thread tom arnall
> > i replaced 'testing' with 'etch' today and haven't used apt-get since. > > > > how do i tell which version (testing/stable) i'm running? > > you'll have to check the version numbers of a few things. I don't know > how apt behaves if you don't specify a default distribution when there > are mul

Re: smooth upgrades

2007-01-03 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 01:12:29PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > Hope that is enough of an explanation for you. Just to make sure I didn't do anything wrong I will detail my steps: My setup: think:~# cat /etc/apt/apt.conf APT::Default-Release "unstable"; think:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb ht

Re: smooth upgrades

2007-01-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 01:12:29PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > Hope that is enough of an explanation for you. Just to make sure I didn't do anything wrong I will detail my steps: My setup: think:~# cat /etc/apt/apt.conf APT::Default-Release "unstable"; think:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb ht

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-28 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 07:50 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 04:05:31PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 22:48 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 03:04:46PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > > You should take a look at my sources.list

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 04:05:31PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 22:48 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 03:04:46PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > You should take a look at my sources.list > > > > > > http://www.gregfolkert.net/files/sources.list > >

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2006-12-26 at 10:41 -0800, tom arnall wrote: > On Friday 22 December 2006 13:05, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 22:48 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 03:04:46PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > > You should take a look at my sources.list > > > > > >

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-26 Thread tom arnall
On Friday 22 December 2006 13:05, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 22:48 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 03:04:46PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > You should take a look at my sources.list > > > > > > http://www.gregfolkert.net/files/sources.list > > > > [qoute

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 22:48 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 03:04:46PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > You should take a look at my sources.list > > > > http://www.gregfolkert.net/files/sources.list > > [qoute from above link] > # COMMENTS: > # Do not forget to put in /etc/a

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 03:04:46PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > You should take a look at my sources.list > > http://www.gregfolkert.net/files/sources.list [qoute from above link] # COMMENTS: # Do not forget to put in /etc/apt/apt.conf # # APT::Default-Release ""; # APT::Cache-Limit 1800

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-21 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 11:50 -0800, tom arnall wrote: > On Thursday 21 December 2006 11:36, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 09:20:09PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 11:06:54AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > > > On Thursday 21 December 2006 10:45, A

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 11:50:51AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > On Thursday 21 December 2006 11:36, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 09:20:09PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 11:06:54AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > > > > > > > what are the consequen

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-21 Thread tom arnall
On Thursday 21 December 2006 11:36, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 09:20:09PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 11:06:54AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > > On Thursday 21 December 2006 10:45, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 10:00:05

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 09:20:09PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 11:06:54AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > On Thursday 21 December 2006 10:45, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 10:00:05AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fnd apt_preferen

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 08:23:08PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 09:56:29AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 10:42:33AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 07:14:08PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > > > > yo

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 11:06:54AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > On Thursday 21 December 2006 10:45, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 10:00:05AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fnd apt_preferences > > > /usr/share/man/es/man5/apt_preferences.5.gz > > > /usr/share/m

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-21 Thread tom arnall
On Thursday 21 December 2006 10:45, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 10:00:05AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fnd apt_preferences > > /usr/share/man/es/man5/apt_preferences.5.gz > > /usr/share/man/fr/man5/apt_preferences.5.gz > > /usr/share/man/man5/apt_preference

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 10:00:05AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fnd apt_preferences > /usr/share/man/es/man5/apt_preferences.5.gz > /usr/share/man/fr/man5/apt_preferences.5.gz > /usr/share/man/man5/apt_preferences.5.gz > /usr/share/man/pt_BR/man5/apt_preferences.5.gz > /usr/shar

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 09:56:29AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 10:42:33AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 07:14:08PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > > you'll have to check the version numbers of a few things. I don't know > > >

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 10:00:05AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > On Wednesday 20 December 2006 19:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > regardless, what is your version of libc6? that's probably the best > > indicator at this point. one of my etch boxes is running > > > > dpkg -l | grep libc6 > > i

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 10:42:33AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 07:14:08PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > you'll have to check the version numbers of a few things. I don't know > > how apt behaves if you don't specify a default distribution when there > > are m

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-21 Thread tom arnall
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 19:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:25:51PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > On Wednesday 20 December 2006 15:41, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 02:20:16PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > > > and until 'etch' becomes 's

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 07:14:08PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > you'll have to check the version numbers of a few things. I don't know > how apt behaves if you don't specify a default distribution when there > are multiple sources. for example, I have my apt_preferences set for > "sid" on

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:25:51PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > On Wednesday 20 December 2006 15:41, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 02:20:16PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > > and until 'etch' becomes 'stable', do i get rid of the ref's to 'stable' > > > in sources.list once i

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-20 Thread tom arnall
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 15:41, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 02:20:16PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > and until 'etch' becomes 'stable', do i get rid of the ref's to 'stable' > > in sources.list once i've replaced 'testing' with 'etch'? or have the > > ref's to 'stable

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 02:20:16PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > > and until 'etch' becomes 'stable', do i get rid of the ref's to 'stable' in > sources.list once i've replaced 'testing' with 'etch'? or have the ref's > to 'stable' been ignored all along, beginning at the point where i put the

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-20 Thread tom arnall
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 13:51, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 11:33:10AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > On Monday 18 December 2006 11:10, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > largely. Are you currently pointed at testing or at etch? If at > > > testing, you might want to cha

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 02:29:08PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 01:51:57PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > [...] > > warning! train platform analogy! warning! > > > > okay, here's how I view the releases. Debian is like a set of > > trains. There are a limited

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-20 Thread richard
On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 01:51:57PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [...] > warning! train platform analogy! warning! > > okay, here's how I view the releases. Debian is like a set of > trains. There are a limited number of platforms for getting on the > trains. Each platform has a name and the

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-19 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 11:33:10AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > > Andrew, > > Thanks for getting back to me. By 'pointed at Etch', do you mean get rid of > the 'testing' addresses and have only 'stable' in 'sources.list'? Hate being > a nervous nelly, but it means a lot to me to get a solid os

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 11:33:10AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > On Monday 18 December 2006 11:10, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > largely. Are you currently pointed at testing or at etch? If at > > testing, you might want to change to etch so you don't get caught out. > > > > my one etch server

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-19 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 11:33:10AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > Andrew, > > Thanks for getting back to me. By 'pointed at Etch', do you mean get rid of > the 'testing' addresses and have only 'stable' in 'sources.list'? Hate being > a nervous nelly, but it means a lot to me to get a solid os on my

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-19 Thread tom arnall
On Monday 18 December 2006 11:10, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 10:59:26AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > On Saturday 18 November 2006 17:33, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 07:47:21PM -0500, Leonid Grinberg wrote: > > > > I assume that you mean that u

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 10:59:26AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > On Saturday 18 November 2006 17:33, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 07:47:21PM -0500, Leonid Grinberg wrote: > > > I assume that you mean that upgrades do not break your system. Testing > > > is always better at thi

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-12-18 Thread tom arnall
On Saturday 18 November 2006 17:33, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 07:47:21PM -0500, Leonid Grinberg wrote: > > I assume that you mean that upgrades do not break your system. Testing > > is always better at this than Unstable. Etch is a particular example, > > because it will b

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-11-18 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 07:47:21PM -0500, Leonid Grinberg wrote: > I assume that you mean that upgrades do not break your system. Testing > is always better at this than Unstable. Etch is a particular example, > because it will become stable soon. > Upgrades in testing or unstable always risking b

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-11-18 Thread Leonid Grinberg
I assume that you mean that upgrades do not break your system. Testing is always better at this than Unstable. Etch is a particular example, because it will become stable soon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: smooth upgrades

2006-11-12 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 11:12:39AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > of the two versions of Debian - unstable and testing - which is the most > likely to provide smooth upgrades? > What do you mean by smooth upgrades? If you are the sort of person who likes to update every day, then unstable is mor