Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-19 Thread Terence
Hi, Russ, Sorry for the delay in replying- was working yesterday! My model is Eee PC 1201N. It is fairly old now, but works well with Lubuntu, (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu) updated regularly I appreciate that you are probably looking for something newer, but this does all I need. HTH. Teren

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-18 Thread Stefan Monnier
> So by "small" I mean small enough to be used without getting out of the > car (in order to set the machine on the hood or trunk). And though many In that case, a 10" netbook (like the MSI Wind or a plethora of others) would probably be a good option. You can have them for very cheap nowadays,

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-18 Thread rlharris
On Sun, October 18, 2015 9:39 am, Stefan Monnier wrote: > How small is "small"? My intent is to avoid the necessity of getting a smartphone simply to have Internet access on the road. And though it would be nice ("icing on the cake") to be able to use GoogleEarth when I am exploring out in a rura

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-18 Thread Miles Fidelman
Stefan Monnier wrote: Is there anything small which can run Debian? How small is "small"? My old MSI Wind U100 netbook ran Debian perfectly, i.e. all the hardware was fully supported, including 3D graphics, with no need for any binary blobs (according to "vrms" it was clean, except for thos

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-18 Thread Stefan Monnier
>Is there anything small which can run Debian? How small is "small"? My old MSI Wind U100 netbook ran Debian perfectly, i.e. all the hardware was fully supported, including 3D graphics, with no need for any binary blobs (according to "vrms" it was clean, except for those pesky emacs-common-no

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 18 October 2015 15:30:07 Miles Fidelman wrote: > Himanshu Shekhar wrote: > > I don't think that the Debian User Mailing List is for Smartphone > > related discussions! > > You should have some other mailing list made for you ! > > No offence! > > Not for nothing, you might actually read t

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-18 Thread Miles Fidelman
Russ, By the way, to your original question, a few more resources: https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile/ https://wiki.debian.org/TabletAndTouchScreen Both of which have some additional links. And you might nose through the Debian lists of lists at https://lists.debian.org/ - there seems to be a debia

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-18 Thread Miles Fidelman
Himanshu Shekhar wrote: I don't think that the Debian User Mailing List is for Smartphone related discussions! You should have some other mailing list made for you ! No offence! Not for nothing, you might actually read things before making snide remarks. The original question was quite Debian

Re: Debian on netbooks: was Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-18 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 10/18/15, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 18 October 2015 13:31:03 Himanshu Shekhar wrote: >> I don't think that the Debian User Mailing List is for Smartphone related >> discussions! >> You should have some other mailing list made for you ! >> No offence! > > What netbooks are suitable for Debia

Debian on netbooks: was Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 18 October 2015 13:31:03 Himanshu Shekhar wrote: > I don't think that the Debian User Mailing List is for Smartphone related > discussions! > You should have some other mailing list made for you ! > No offence! What netbooks are suitable for Debian, and run it well, in addition to fulfi

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-18 Thread Himanshu Shekhar
I don't think that the Debian User Mailing List is for Smartphone related discussions! You should have some other mailing list made for you ! No offence! On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Renaud OLGIATI < ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote: > On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 19:49:10 -0500 > rlhar...@oplink

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-18 Thread Ron
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 19:49:10 -0500 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > Thanks, Renaud; that is what I hoped to hear -- that the EeePC actually > can do GoogleEarth -- because I do have occasional need for GE while out > on the road. Snap ! > In a previous post I mentioned that I found a retailer who s

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-18 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2015-10-17 at 16:29 -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Sat, October 17, 2015 3:22 pm, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > No problem! > > I have the first generation EeePC, which I would happily give away, > > but > > I doubt you plan on visiting Sweden anytime soon? ;) > > Your offer is graciou

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-18 Thread Petter Adsen
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:29:31 -0500 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Sat, October 17, 2015 3:22 pm, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > No problem! > > I have the first generation EeePC, which I would happily give away, but > > I doubt you plan on visiting Sweden anytime soon? ;) > > Your offer is gracious

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-18 Thread rlharris
On Sun, October 18, 2015 2:23 am, Terence wrote: > FWIW I run Debian without problems on my eeePC. Terrence, would you kindly tell me the model or series number? The ones which I found in stock are "EeeBook X205". Russ

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-18 Thread Terence
Hi, Russ, FWIW I run Debian without problems on my eeePC. Terence On 17 October 2015 at 18:30, deloptes wrote: > > > > > The more I consider the liabilities of a "smartphone", the more I think > > that my need for mobile Internet access best would be served by a very > > small PC and a G4 cel

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread rlharris
On Sat, October 17, 2015 6:23 pm, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > Or get a second-hand one on ebay; I still take along my EeePC 4G when I > travel, and have recently upgraded its system with MX-14 (non-PAE) which > suits that aging machine better than Debian. > > Completely sufficient to check my email, b

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread Ron
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 14:49:07 -0500 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > So now my goal is to find an alternative to the Asus eeePC. Or get a second-hand one on ebay; I still take along my EeePC 4G when I travel, and have recently upgraded its system with MX-14 (non-PAE) which suits that aging machine

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread rlharris
On Sat, October 17, 2015 5:06 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote: > If we are ignoring age, my early Acer Aspire One ZG5 fits (most of) the > bill admirably and runs Debian beautifully. Does anyone know whether the successor (if any) to the Aspire One ZG5 runs Debian? Russ

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 17 October 2015 21:22:22 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > I have the first generation EeePC, which I would happily give away, but > I doubt you plan on visiting Sweden anytime soon? ;) If we are ignoring age, my early Acer Aspire One ZG5 fits (most of) the bill admirably and runs Debian beauti

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread rlharris
On Sat, October 17, 2015 3:22 pm, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > No problem! > I have the first generation EeePC, which I would happily give away, but > I doubt you plan on visiting Sweden anytime soon? ;) Your offer is gracious, Sven. However, I just found an outfit which has a few eeePC in stock, at a

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread Joe
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 15:07:52 -0500 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Sat, October 17, 2015 2:48 pm, Joe wrote: > > I have an Acer Aspire One, unfortunately with the original very slow > > 8GB SSD, but it runs Debian unstable usably. It has wifi ... > > I have a slow laptop, but closed it measures

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2015-10-17 at 14:49 -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Sat, October 17, 2015 2:27 pm, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > > Well, there was at least two questions in your post. I provided a > > suggestion for one of them. > > Forgive me, Sven. When I began this thread, I was thinking strictly

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread rlharris
On Sat, October 17, 2015 2:48 pm, Joe wrote: > I have an Acer Aspire One, unfortunately with the original very slow > 8GB SSD, but it runs Debian unstable usably. It has wifi ... I have a slow laptop, but closed it measures 10in x 15in x 1.5in and weighs 6 pounds. The large screen is nice regardi

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread rlharris
On Sat, October 17, 2015 2:27 pm, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > Well, there was at least two questions in your post. I provided a > suggestion for one of them. Forgive me, Sven. When I began this thread, I was thinking strictly in terms of a smart phone, and did not know of a smartphone forum. After

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread Joe
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 12:15:33 -0500 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > > I just now remembered the Asus eeePC. Those can run Debian, can they > not? If so, that may be the solution. And the combination of an > eeePc and G4 modem may be less expensive than is a smartphone. > I have an Acer Aspire On

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2015-10-17 at 12:21 -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > Thank you, Miles; you are the first to answer my original question. Well, there was at least two questions in your post. I provided a suggestion for one of them. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread Brian
On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 14:53:40 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > > > >Thank you, Miles; you are the first to answer my original question. > > > >Russ > Funny thing about this list :-) ... is that many people try ther best to help users. The original question was

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread Miles Fidelman
rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: On Sat, October 17, 2015 12:15 pm, Miles Fidelman wrote: I would like to find something like a smartphone discussion list for the technically-oriented -- not for the "Isn't Siri marvelous?" crowd. regarding the discussion list question - it's funny, but the technicall

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread rlharris
On Sat, October 17, 2015 12:15 pm, Miles Fidelman wrote: >>> I would like to find something like a smartphone discussion list for >>> the technically-oriented -- not for the "Isn't Siri marvelous?" crowd. > regarding the discussion list question - it's funny, but the technically > knowledgeable fol

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread rlharris
On Sat, October 17, 2015 8:33 am, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Fri, 2015-10-16 at 16:49 -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: >> ...Is there anything small which can run Debian? ... > The modem is the biggest gotcha when it comes to surveillance by > something like the NSA. (I think security updates, cra

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread Miles Fidelman
dean wrote: On 10/17/15 07:49, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: I would like to find something like a smartphone discussion list for the technically-oriented -- not for the "Isn't Siri marvelous?" crowd. I am interested in liabilities regarding security and privacy, rather than in features. regardi

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Fri, 2015-10-16 at 16:49 -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > So I need to see what is available by way of a smartphone, or perhaps > a > tablet computer. Is there anything small which can run Debian? Even with something like Cyanogenmod, you're running a blob on the modem. The modem is the big

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-17 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, Okay, well I think *you* are on the right track; many people will give away waaay too much data using their mobile spy machines ;-) - just ask Richard Stallman for one. On 17/10/2015 12:38 PM, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Fri, October

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 08:38:29PM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Fri, October 16, 2015 8:02 pm, dean wrote: > > What kind of smart phone? > > That is what I wish to learn. > > If samsung televisions have a microphone, what surveillance should we > expect of a samsung smartphone which has

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-16 Thread rlharris
On Fri, October 16, 2015 8:02 pm, dean wrote: > What kind of smart phone? That is what I wish to learn. If samsung televisions have a microphone, what surveillance should we expect of a samsung smartphone which has both microphone and camera? Instinctively, I distrust microsoft and apple. Beside

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-16 Thread dean
On 10/17/15 07:49, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > I would like to find something like a smartphone discussion list for the > technically-oriented -- not for the "Isn't Siri marvelous?" crowd. I am > interested in liabilities regarding security and privacy, rather than in > features. > > I spend muc