Ron Johnson wrote:
>>> Hooking file-roller into gksu and dpkg wouldn't be that hard.
>>>
>>> In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if that weren't already the case.
>>>
>>
>> I think Ubuntu does it.
>
> Why am I *not* surprised?
me neither :x
tried kubuntu for about 3 months :x - never ever
regar
H.S. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In the last some weeks I recall reading in one of the mailing lists that
> it is just a matter of popularity that we are not seeing bad intentioned
> debs or rpms on the internet. If Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora were to become
> sufficiently popular, the claim is that it would be
On 02/16/2009 06:55 PM, JoeHill wrote:
[snip]
No, popularity has very little to do with it. Windows is compromised a lot
because it is trivial to do so. Linux could have twice the market share as
Windows, and it would still be less prone to invasion, simply because it is
more difficult to do so.
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:05:27 -0600
Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 02/16/2009 03:55 PM, H.S. wrote:
> > Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> >> Sure. The keylogger would have to add itself to the "autostart folder",
> >> but that's no mean feat.
> >>
> >
> > I am sorry, what is an auto start folder in relation to
H.S. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In the last some weeks I recall reading in one of the mailing lists that
> it is just a matter of popularity that we are not seeing bad intentioned
> debs or rpms on the internet. If Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora were to become
> sufficiently popular, the claim is that it would b
sudo rm -rf /
is trapped and subject to special handling. At least, it should be,
IMHO.
>>>
>>> I don't believe it. Show us!
>>
>> Ron, why don't you try to command and see for yourself? Its easy
>> enough to do it. I just don't have the time. Cough. Cough.
>
> Boyd(?) asserted the
On 02/16/2009 06:11 PM, Paul E Condon wrote:
On 2009-02-16_10:29:02, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 02/16/2009 08:26 AM, Paul E Condon wrote:
On 2009-02-15_17:26:23, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Sunday 15 February 2009 15:48:37 Ron Johnson wrote:
[W]hat's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?
On 2009-02-16_10:29:02, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 02/16/2009 08:26 AM, Paul E Condon wrote:
>> On 2009-02-15_17:26:23, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>>> On Sunday 15 February 2009 15:48:37 Ron Johnson wrote:
[W]hat's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?
$ sudo dpkg -i NakedBrittan
Dave Ewart wrote the following on 02/16/2009 10:42 AM:
On Monday, 16.02.2009 at 16:37 +, Avi Greenbury wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
I don't believe it. Show us!
In the interests of satisfying my curiosity:
vm-linux2:/# rm -rf /
rm: cannot remove root directory `/'
vm-linux2:/#
That's ra
On 02/16/2009 03:55 PM, H.S. wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
Sure. The keylogger would have to add itself to the "autostart folder",
but that's no mean feat.
I am sorry, what is an auto start folder in relation to Debian or Ubuntu?
The same people who would install NakedBrittany.deb are the sam
Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> Sure. The keylogger would have to add itself to the "autostart folder",
> but that's no mean feat.
>
I am sorry, what is an auto start folder in relation to Debian or Ubuntu?
I would expect it to put a line in .bashrc to start automatically when
user logs in or perhaps
On 02/16/2009 12:40 PM, H.S. wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 02/16/2009 04:30 AM, Dave Sherohman wrote:
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 04:22:37PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
But neither of these help in case a stupid user receives an e-mail
saying:
Run 'sudo dpkg -i FreePornPics.deb to see 's
se
> In the interests of satisfying my curiosity:
>
> vm-linux2:/# rm -rf /
Here I hold my breath!
> rm: cannot remove root directory `/'
> vm-linux2:/#
>
Here I sigh and change my pants. And of course, the ob:
http://xkcd.com/242/
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Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 02/16/2009 04:30 AM, Dave Sherohman wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 04:22:37PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
>>> But neither of these help in case a stupid user receives an e-mail
>>> saying:
>>>
>>> Run 'sudo dpkg -i FreePornPics.deb to see 's
>>> secret sex tape'.
>
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 04:42:18PM +, Dave Ewart wrote:
> On Monday, 16.02.2009 at 16:37 +, Avi Greenbury wrote:
>
> > In the interests of satisfying my curiosity:
> >
> > vm-linux2:/# rm -rf /
> > rm: cannot remove root directory `/'
> > vm-linux2:/#
>
> That's rather annoying. If I wan
On Monday, 16.02.2009 at 16:37 +, Avi Greenbury wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>
>> I don't believe it. Show us!
>>
>
> In the interests of satisfying my curiosity:
>
> vm-linux2:/# rm -rf /
> rm: cannot remove root directory `/'
> vm-linux2:/#
That's rather annoying. If I want to shoot mysel
On 02/15/2009 11:39 PM, T o n g wrote:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:48:37 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
Anyway, twice in the past few years, Debian servers have been
compromised. One time it was thru a weak DD user password,
You implication seems to be "Debian is not secure enough",
"Debian" can be
Ron Johnson wrote:
I don't believe it. Show us!
In the interests of satisfying my curiosity:
vm-linux2:/# rm -rf /
rm: cannot remove root directory `/'
vm-linux2:/#
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On 02/16/2009 08:26 AM, Paul E Condon wrote:
On 2009-02-15_17:26:23, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Sunday 15 February 2009 15:48:37 Ron Johnson wrote:
[W]hat's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?
$ sudo dpkg -i NakedBrittany.deb
What's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?
sudo rm -rf
On 02/16/2009 04:30 AM, Dave Sherohman wrote:
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 04:22:37PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
But neither of these help in case a stupid user receives an e-mail saying:
Run 'sudo dpkg -i FreePornPics.deb to see 's
secret sex tape'.
No, but it still wouldn't get far becau
Paul E Condon wrote:
> On 2009-02-16_09:37:55, H.S. wrote:
>> Paul E Condon wrote:
>>> unaware. I suspect that the security is pretty good. Early on, there
>>> were powerful organizations that would have benefitted handsomely if
>>> Debian had been disrupted, and it wasn't disrupted. But there is
>
On 2009-02-16_09:37:55, H.S. wrote:
> Paul E Condon wrote:
> > unaware. I suspect that the security is pretty good. Early on, there
> > were powerful organizations that would have benefitted handsomely if
> > Debian had been disrupted, and it wasn't disrupted. But there is
>
> Interesting. Care to
Paul E Condon wrote:
> unaware. I suspect that the security is pretty good. Early on, there
> were powerful organizations that would have benefitted handsomely if
> Debian had been disrupted, and it wasn't disrupted. But there is
Interesting. Care to elaborate a bit?
Thanks.
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On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 07:26:38AM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> And, without testing it, I'm pretty sure that
>
> sudo rm -rf /
>
> is trapped and subject to special handling. At least, it should be,
> IMHO.
Only one way to find out whether it is or not... Try it! *evil grin*
(Well, OK, you
On 2009-02-15_17:26:23, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Sunday 15 February 2009 15:48:37 Ron Johnson wrote:
> > [W]hat's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?
> >
> > $ sudo dpkg -i NakedBrittany.deb
>
> What's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?
> sudo rm -rf The Great American Novell / M
On 2009-02-15_19:51:11, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 04:33:53PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> > Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> > > A Debian user should not be expected to install just any .deb file.
> > >
> >
> > Ideally speaking, I'd say this holds for any OS: Users should not
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 04:22:37PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> But neither of these help in case a stupid user receives an e-mail saying:
>
> Run 'sudo dpkg -i FreePornPics.deb to see 's
> secret sex tape'.
No, but it still wouldn't get far because, unlike all the major Windows
malware t
T o n g wrote:
> You implication seems to be "Debian is not secure enough", but my conclusion
> from above incident is quite the opposite from yours -- Debian is *amazingly*
> secure.
>
> If a Windoze PC is taken over by someone or some new malware that no
> existing anti-virus software can detec
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:48:37 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Anyway, twice in the past few years, Debian servers have been
> compromised. One time it was thru a weak DD user password,
You implication seems to be "Debian is not secure enough", but my conclusion
from above incident is quite the opposi
Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> *Maybe* not on Debian, since Debian users *tend* to be more
Yup, I agree.
> sophisticated, but what's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?
>
> $ sudo dpkg -i NakedBrittany.deb
This is more likely since some of the present day popular packages are
commonly downloaded
On 02/15/2009 05:26 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Sunday 15 February 2009 15:48:37 Ron Johnson wrote:
[W]hat's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?
$ sudo dpkg -i NakedBrittany.deb
What's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?
sudo rm -rf The Great American Novell / Movie
Neither i
On Sunday 15 February 2009 15:48:37 Ron Johnson wrote:
> [W]hat's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?
>
> $ sudo dpkg -i NakedBrittany.deb
What's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?
sudo rm -rf The Great American Novell / Movie
Neither is an actual security issue.
> and the
> other thru a
On 02/15/2009 01:11 PM, T o n g wrote:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:25:35 -0500, H.S. wrote:
In the last some weeks I recall reading in one of the mailing lists that
it is just a matter of popularity that we are not seeing bad intentioned
debs or rpms on the internet. If Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora were to
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 04:33:53PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> > A Debian user should not be expected to install just any .deb file.
> >
>
> Ideally speaking, I'd say this holds for any OS: Users should not just
> install (or click, or run) everything they see.
>
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> A Debian user should not be expected to install just any .deb file.
>
Ideally speaking, I'd say this holds for any OS: Users should not just
install (or click, or run) everything they see.
In practice things happen differently, especially in the Windows world.
--
A la
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 04:22:37PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> T o n g wrote:
> > On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:25:35 -0500, H.S. wrote:
> >
> >
> >> In the last some weeks I recall reading in one of the mailing lists that
> >> it is just a matter of popularity that we are not seeing bad inten
T o n g wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:25:35 -0500, H.S. wrote:
>
>
>> In the last some weeks I recall reading in one of the mailing lists that
>> it is just a matter of popularity that we are not seeing bad intentioned
>> debs or rpms on the internet. If Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora were to become
>>
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:25:35 -0500, H.S. wrote:
> In the last some weeks I recall reading in one of the mailing lists that
> it is just a matter of popularity that we are not seeing bad intentioned
> debs or rpms on the internet. If Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora were to become
> sufficiently popular, the c
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