Re: sarge apt and init daemons

2005-05-04 Thread Phil Dyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hasler said: > It won't restart the service if you have left at least one K link in place. > Debian provides several tools for turning services on and off. My favorite > is sysvconfig (since I wrote it). > thanks, John. I'm checking out sysvcon

Re: sarge apt and init daemons

2005-05-04 Thread John Hasler
/phil writes: > It does... what? If it checked to see if I've turned off a service... It won't restart the service if you have left at least one K link in place. Debian provides several tools for turning services on and off. My favorite is sysvconfig (since I wrote it). -- John Hasler -- To

Re: sarge apt and init daemons

2005-05-04 Thread Colin J. Ingram
Phil Dyer wrote: Nope. Because that is not how it works or has ever worked. Your expectation is skewed from reality (sorry). Hate to keep beating this. But my response is: Just because it's not how it's ever worked doesn't mean it's right. Can you give me reasoning as to *why* it works like th

Re: sarge apt and init daemons

2005-05-04 Thread Phil Dyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Miquel van Smoorenburg said: >>OK, although both solutions work, (I guess - I haven't tried the second >>solution) it still seems kludgy to me. If I use the debian supplied tool >>to remove a service from startup _totally_, and I use a debian supplied

Re: sarge apt and init daemons

2005-05-04 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Phil Dyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Miquel van Smoorenburg said: > If you want to keep updates from starting the daemon, just chmod 644 it. >>> >>>That sounds reasonable...and simple. :) thanks. >> >> Reasonable, simple, a

Re: sarge apt and init daemons

2005-05-02 Thread Phil Dyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Miquel van Smoorenburg said: >>> If you want to keep updates from starting the daemon, just chmod 644 it. >> >>That sounds reasonable...and simple. :) thanks. > > Reasonable, simple, and wrong :) > > As long as one start or stop link is still presen

Re: sarge apt and init daemons

2005-05-02 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Phil Dyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >David Clymer wrote: >> >> The debian post install script probably doest go through the rc.* >> directories looking for runlevel entries since these are all just >> symlinks to a