Re: rootfs

2013-04-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. April 2013 schrieb Kevin Chadwick: > > > Don't believe opinion as fact just because it's on a server hosted > > > by freedesktop.org. Rusty Russel and the FHS is a more > > > authoritative (and correct) source, I suggest you read it. > > > > I never split up / and /usr for the last

Re: rootfs

2013-04-21 Thread Thilo Six
Hello Roger, Excerpt from Roger Leigh: -- -- > I hope this makes clear why I currently hold the position that /usr > (*as a separately mountable filesystem*) is not a useful feature. > I long held the opposite opinion very strongly, until I spent a good > bit of time really considering the vali

Re: rootfs

2013-04-20 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > - With a package manager, if any of the rootfs, /usr or /var are > > damaged, you need to either restore the entire set from a backup > > or reinstall. This comes back to the fact that all locations > > under the control of the package manager are a unified whole: if one > > part bre

Re: rootfs

2013-04-20 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 09:43:08PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > > I am, as a matter of fact, subscribed to the FHS list. If you > > > read the specification, you'll see that it does not in any way > > > require /usr to be a *mountpoint*; it can be located on the root > > > filesystem without

Re: rootfs

2013-04-20 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 09:43:08PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > I am, as a matter of fact, subscribed to the FHS list. If you read > > the specification, you'll see that it does not in any way require > > /usr to be a *mountpoint*; it can be located on the root filesystem > > without any probl

Re: rootfs

2013-04-20 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> I am, as a matter of fact, subscribed to the FHS list. If you read > the specification, you'll see that it does not in any way require > /usr to be a *mountpoint*; it can be located on the root filesystem > without any problems. It's actually the default partitioning method. > > Do you have a

Re: rootfs

2013-04-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:50:05AM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > 2013/4/20 Jude DaShiell > > > Sorry, wrong list for reply. > > > ...though interesting :-) Although, not quite correct: http://www.lowellsmilecenter.com/blog/2008/02/04/calcium-and-stronger-teeth/ -- "If you're not careful,

Re: rootfs

2013-04-20 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 08:09:24PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > > /dev/mapper/debian-usr 4,6G 1,2G3,2G 28% /usr > > > > There's no real need to have /usr separate from / > > You could potentially merge the two. > > Unless you follow the installer, best practice and the Filesystem >

Re: rootfs

2013-04-20 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2013/4/20 Jude DaShiell > Sorry, wrong list for reply. ...though interesting :-)

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Jude DaShiell
Sorry, wrong list for reply. On Fri, 19 Apr 2013, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > 2013/4/19 Darac Marjal > > > > > That seems correct. Device nodes don't tend to take up any space. Now > > try it again on the filesystem (like I showed you). > > > > > Ok, here follows the "relevant" ouput. > Apart from

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Jude DaShiell
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Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > Don't believe opinion as fact just because it's on a server hosted > > by freedesktop.org. Rusty Russel and the FHS is a more > > authoritative (and correct) source, I suggest you read it. > > I never split up / and /usr for the last century or so and they are > all working fine. Wow, your

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 19. April 2013 schrieb Kevin Chadwick: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space > > > on rootfs but can't guess how... > > > Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > > > > > > regrds > > > /r > > > > > > debian:~# df -h > > > File syste

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 19. April 2013 schrieb Karl E. Jorgensen: > Hi > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:32:45PM +0100, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on > > rootfs but can't guess how... > > Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > >

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > Hi, > > > > I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space > > on rootfs but can't guess how... > > Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > > > > regrds > > /r > > > > debian:~# df -h > > File system Dim. Usati Dispon. Uso% Montato su > > rootfs

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Raffaele Morelli wrote: > Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > You seem to be using lvm. Can't you shrink another partition to grow root? > > Yes I could... but I have never managed lvm and this is a production > server.. You are using LVM. You have plenty of space. You just need to move it around a

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 01:32:45PM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > Hi, > > I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on rootfs > but can't guess how... > Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > > regrds > /r > > debian:~# df -h > File system Dim. Usati Disp

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:53:33AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > > Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > > rootfs 322M 213M 93M 70% / > > > /dev/mapper/debian-root 322M 213M 93M 70% / > > > tmpfs 368M 11M339M 3% /tmp > > > /dev/m

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > rootfs 322M 213M 93M 70% / > > /dev/mapper/debian-root 322M 213M 93M 70% / > > tmpfs 368M 11M339M 3% /tmp > > /dev/mapper/debian-tmp 368M 11M339M 3% /tmp > > Note: something odd

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Bob Proulx
basti wrote: > You can also use "ncdu". > Man Page says: > > ncdu (NCurses Disk Usage) is a curses-based version of the well-known > 'du', and provides a fast way to see what directories are using your > disk space. Cool! I hadn't seen that before. Checking it out now. I have been recommending

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> I haven't actually looked at your layout but copy something like /opt > to /usr (where it should be anyway in my opinion) and bind mount it. Sorry move it! -- ___ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write progra

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> >> Ok, here follows the "relevant" ouput. > >> Apart from spf13 vim environment, that I can remove for root user, I guess > >> my only choice would be a pruned custom kernel... am I wrong? > >> > > > > You seem to be using lvm. Can't you shrink another partition to grow root? > > > Yes I co

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2013/4/19 Karl E. Jorgensen > Hi > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:32:45PM +0100, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on > rootfs but > > can't guess how... > > Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > > > > regrds > > /r > > > >

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:32:45PM +0100, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > Hi, > > I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on rootfs > but > can't guess how... > Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > > regrds > /r > > debian:~# df -h > File system Dim. Usa

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2013/4/19 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI > On Sex, 19 Abr 2013, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > >> Ok, here follows the "relevant" ouput. >> Apart from spf13 vim environment, that I can remove for root user, I guess >> my only choice would be a pruned custom kernel... am I wrong? >> > > You seem to be using lvm.

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Hello, Raffaele Morelli a écrit : > > I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on rootfs > but can't guess how... > Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > > debian:~# df -h > File system Dim. Usati Dispon. Uso% Montato su > rootfs 322M 21

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Sex, 19 Abr 2013, Raffaele Morelli wrote: Ok, here follows the "relevant" ouput. Apart from spf13 vim environment, that I can remove for root user, I guess my only choice would be a pruned custom kernel... am I wrong? You seem to be using lvm. Can't you shrink another partition to grow root?

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2013/4/19 Darac Marjal > > That seems correct. Device nodes don't tend to take up any space. Now > try it again on the filesystem (like I showed you). > > Ok, here follows the "relevant" ouput. Apart from spf13 vim environment, that I can remove for root user, I guess my only choice would be a pr

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 04/19/2013 01:32 PM, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > Hi, > > I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on > rootfs but can't guess how... > Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > > regrds > /r > > debian:~# df -h > File system Dim. Usati Dispon. Uso% Montato s

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread basti
You can also use "ncdu". Man Page says: ncdu (NCurses Disk Usage) is a curses-based version of the well-known 'du', and provides a fast way to see what directories are using your disk space. Am 19.04.2013 13:55, schrieb Raffaele Morelli: > 2013/4/19 Darac Marjal > >> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 01

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 01:55:06PM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote: >2013/4/19 Darac Marjal <[1]mailingl...@darac.org.uk> > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 01:32:45PM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > � �Hi, > > � �I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space >

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2013/4/19 Darac Marjal > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 01:32:45PM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > >Hi, > >I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on > >rootfs but can't guess how... > >Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > > You have 213Mb in your root fil

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 01:32:45PM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote: >Hi, >I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on >rootfs but can't guess how... >Here follows the filesystem, any hints? You have 213Mb in your root file system, that seems fairly small to m

Re: rootfs mounted twice

2012-06-09 Thread hvw59601
Sven Joachim wrote: On 2012-06-09 16:07 +0200, Roman V.Leon. wrote: Please give me a tip - is it normal that i see in 'df -h' output that my rootfs is mounted twice ?: Yes, that's normal. You did not see it in the past when /etc/mtab was a regular file, but now /etc/mtab is a symlink to /pro

Re: rootfs mounted twice

2012-06-09 Thread Mika Suomalainen
On 09.06.2012 17:07, Roman V.Leon. wrote: > Hello gents. > Please give me a tip - is it normal that i see in 'df -h' output that my > rootfs is mounted twice ?: > > $ df -h > > rootfs 97G 34G 59G 37% / > > /dev/disk/by-uuid/a863f3c2-ddaf-4c23-9d56-51245edbe394 97G 34G 59G > 3

Re: rootfs mounted twice

2012-06-09 Thread Roman V.Leon.
On 09.06.2012 18:49, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2012-06-09 16:07 +0200, Roman V.Leon. wrote: Please give me a tip - is it normal that i see in 'df -h' output that my rootfs is mounted twice ?: Yes, that's normal. You did not see it in the past when /etc/mtab was a regular file, but now /etc/mtab

Re: rootfs mounted twice

2012-06-09 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-06-09 16:07 +0200, Roman V.Leon. wrote: > Please give me a tip - is it normal that i see in 'df -h' output that > my rootfs is mounted twice ?: Yes, that's normal. You did not see it in the past when /etc/mtab was a regular file, but now /etc/mtab is a symlink to /proc/mounts. See http:

Re: rootfs on SSD

2011-05-13 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 11 mai 11, 12:05:01, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > > I tested three setups: > > 1) Setup: rootflags and UUID fstab entry (the one I had before): > Result: no configured options for root filesystem > > rd@blackbox:~$ cat /proc/cmdline > BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem > root=UUID=

Re: rootfs on SSD

2011-05-11 Thread Thilo Six
Rainer Dorsch wrote the following on 11.05.2011 12:05 > Am Montag, 9. Mai 2011 schrieb Thilo Six: >> Andrei Popescu wrote the following on 09.05.2011 09:18 >> rd@blackbox:~$ mount|grep rootfs rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) rd@blackbox:~$ >>> >>> I don't have any 'rootfs' in the output

Re: rootfs on SSD

2011-05-11 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Am Montag, 9. Mai 2011 schrieb Thilo Six: > Andrei Popescu wrote the following on 09.05.2011 09:18 > > >> rd@blackbox:~$ mount|grep rootfs > >> rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) > >> rd@blackbox:~$ > > > > I don't have any 'rootfs' in the output of mount, instead I have this: > > > > /dev/sda6 on / t

Re: rootfs on SSD

2011-05-09 Thread Thilo Six
Andrei Popescu wrote the following on 09.05.2011 09:18 >> rd@blackbox:~$ mount|grep rootfs >> rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) >> rd@blackbox:~$ > > I don't have any 'rootfs' in the output of mount, instead I have this: > > /dev/sda6 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro,commit=0) > > I hav

Re: rootfs on SSD

2011-05-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 08 mai 11, 23:23:52, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > > rd@blackbox:~$ mount|grep rootfs > rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) > rd@blackbox:~$ I don't have any 'rootfs' in the output of mount, instead I have this: /dev/sda6 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro,commit=0) I have a feeling there's

Re: rootfs on SSD

2011-05-08 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hi Florian, Am Sonntag, 8. Mai 2011 schrieb Florian Ernst: > Hello Rainer, > > On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 04:14:53PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > > [...] > > When I now run the mount command, I get all options listed for /home > > > > /dev/sdc2 on /home type ext4 (rw,noatime,discard,data=ordered)

Re: rootfs on SSD

2011-05-08 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello Rainer, On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 04:14:53PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > [...] > When I now run the mount command, I get all options listed for /home > > /dev/sdc2 on /home type ext4 (rw,noatime,discard,data=ordered) > > but not for root > > rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) > > Were the noat