Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-15 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:48:11 +0100, Brian wrote: (...) > ATAs may be standards compliant but they are not exactly open. Given > that, they can be far more convenient to use in a static situation. Is there any "old-fashioned" (aka, PSTN/ISDN or hybrids) PBX that is "open"? (no, Asterik does not

Re: psi instead of Skype [OT]

2011-06-15 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 14/06/11 04:58, Camaleón wrote: >> On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:33:41 +0100, Brian wrote: >>> On Mon 13 Jun 2011 at 14:24:54 +, Camaleón wrote: For those -friends, family, skype-friendly, etc...- I just simply use the low land-line/mobile rates my SIP provider h

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-14 Thread Brian
On Tue 14 Jun 2011 at 11:40:49 +, Camaleón wrote: > I use VoIP with Ekiga by means of USB headset (from Plantronics) and > works like a charm. I'm so happy with it that I'm thinking in acquiring > an ATA converter so I can use any standard phone with it and make VoIP my > default calling sy

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-14 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:52:37 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 15:24, Camaleón wrote: >> low land-line/mobile rates my SIP provider has > > How's the sound quality? With "standard" DSL (10 Mbps/1 Mbps) is very good (sometimes even better that when I use my cell phone). Wit

Re: psi instead of Skype [OT]

2011-06-14 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:28:52 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 04:34, Scott Ferguson > wrote: > > [...]and ISPs start rolling out VOIP products of their own. [...] > > Will ISPs start blocking VoIP ports? *evil grin* (...) Our ISP carrier (Telefonica) recently installed F

Re: psi instead of Skype [OT]

2011-06-14 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 04:34, Scott Ferguson wrote: [...]and ISPs start rolling out VOIP products of their own. [...] Will ISPs start blocking VoIP ports? *evil grin* > with the telcos. I heard of one that is basically a wireless PSTN > equivalent - no line rental, a landline number, data rate

Re: psi instead of Skype [OT]

2011-06-13 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, Scott Ferguson wrote: Both Virgin and Vodaphone have portable wireless products being tested that will compete directly with the telcos. I heard of one that is basically a wireless PSTN equivalent - no line rental, a landline number, data rates, and analogue connection plugs. Essentiall

Re: psi instead of Skype [OT]

2011-06-13 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 14/06/11 04:58, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:33:41 +0100, Brian wrote: > >> On Mon 13 Jun 2011 at 14:24:54 +, Camaleón wrote: >> >>> For those -friends, family, skype-friendly, etc...- I just simply use >>> the low land-line/mobile rates my SIP provider has and place them a >>

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 15:24, Camaleón wrote: > low land-line/mobile rates my SIP provider has How's the sound quality? Any big known SIP providers? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Ar

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Brian
On Mon 13 Jun 2011 at 18:58:40 +, Camaleón wrote: > Here (Spain) rates for mobile phone calls are still very expensive. > There are some bonuses for free calling when you sign-up for some offers > but I find that options very limited and restrictive (calls must have > place between X and Y

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:33:41 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Mon 13 Jun 2011 at 14:24:54 +, Camaleón wrote: > >> For those -friends, family, skype-friendly, etc...- I just simply use >> the low land-line/mobile rates my SIP provider has and place them a >> standard call. > > There some good deals

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Brian
On Mon 13 Jun 2011 at 14:24:54 +, Camaleón wrote: > For those -friends, family, skype-friendly, etc...- I just simply use > the low land-line/mobile rates my SIP provider has and place them a > standard call. There some good deals in the SIP --> PSTN world but, depending on your country of

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Andreas Weber's message of 2011-06-13 12:43:30 +0200: > On 2011-06-13 11:19, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > > Afaik the audio codec skype uses is open now, but I too doubt that this > > goes for the whole protocol. I doubt the situation will get better with > > skype in the hands of ms.

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:04:14 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: (...) > Try converting your friends to open protocols instead ;) [not an easy > task, i know] For those -friends, family, skype-friendly, etc...- I just simply use the low land-line/mobile rates my SIP provider has and place them a st

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Andreas Weber
On 2011-06-13 11:19, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > Afaik the audio codec skype uses is open now, but I too doubt that this > goes for the whole protocol. I doubt the situation will get better with > skype in the hands of ms. Ok, I didn't express myself clear enough, sorry for that. Forget Skype. I

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:19, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > I doubt the situation will get better with > skype in the hands of ms. There was a thread about that recently. AFAIK it'll just get integrated into MSN-Live or whatever it's called. My 2¢ Nuno -- Mars 2 Stay! But a torus on L1 first, p

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Nuno Magalhães's message of 2011-06-13 00:04:14 +0200: > Hi, > > Not an expert, but skype uses its own proprietary protocol, i think > (plus SIP to initiate), so i think you'd need a skype transport on > your jabber server. Again, not an expert. > > Try converting your friends to op

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-12 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Hi, Not an expert, but skype uses its own proprietary protocol, i think (plus SIP to initiate), so i think you'd need a skype transport on your jabber server. Again, not an expert. Try converting your friends to open protocols instead ;) [not an easy task, i know] HTH, Nuno -- Mars 2 Stay! htt