Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown

2012-01-04 Thread Curt
On 2012-01-03, Bob Proulx wrote: > >> Now you say rebooting requires and entails the exact same electrical >> event as a poweroff? I don't quite understand. You mean that reboot >> powers off the machine, and then turns it back on again immediately, >> whereas a shutdown/poweroff simply powers t

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown

2012-01-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Curt wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Power-off hang. Reboot hang. Neither worked. They are the same > > thing. Both actions could not control the power supply from software. > > Well, now I'm confused. I might have a reboot problem and not know > about it in the sense that I hardly ever reboot

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown

2012-01-03 Thread Curt
On 2012-01-03, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Power-off hang. Reboot hang. Neither worked. They are the same > thing. Both actions could not control the power supply from software. Well, now I'm confused. I might have a reboot problem and not know about it in the sense that I hardly ever reboot (I th

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown

2012-01-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Curt wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Just two months ago I had this exact same problem with a brand new > > Intel motherboard. Searching the motherboard site for BIOS upgrades I > > found that there was one available and in my case the changelog for it > > listed reboot problems as one of the fixes

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown

2012-01-03 Thread Curt
On 2012-01-03, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Just two months ago I had this exact same problem with a brand new > Intel motherboard. Searching the motherboard site for BIOS upgrades I > found that there was one available and in my case the changelog for it > listed reboot problems as one of the fixes. I

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown

2012-01-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Curt wrote: > Periodically, for no reason I can fathom, or trace to a specific cause, > when I shutdown my machine, it fails to power off. The shutdown > procedure unrolls, or unfurls, as expected, but at the point where it > says at the console "Will now halt," instead of a power off taking > pla

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown [Fwd:]

2012-01-03 Thread Curt
On 2012-01-03, Don Juan wrote: > > you could always do alt+sysrq REISUB that's a gentler way to shut down No, I couldn't, because the system is halted and there's no magic left. This machine, an Acer X1430 running debian squeeze with a 2.6.32-5-amd64 kernel, always shuts down properly but period

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown

2012-01-02 Thread Curt
On 2012-01-02, Ashton Fagg wrote: > G'day Curt. > > On 03/01/12 02:34, Curt wrote: >> There's nothing in the logs to distinguish the no poweroff shutdowns >> from the poweroff ones (I don't think; I have looked). > > I wouldn't think there would be at the very end, because everything is > expecti

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown [Fwd:]

2012-01-02 Thread Don Juan
Original Message Subject:Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 08:42:08 -0800 From: Don Juan To: Curt On 01/02/2012 08:34 AM, Curt wrote: Periodically, for no reason I can fathom, or trace to a specific cause, when I shutdown my

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown

2012-01-02 Thread Ashton Fagg
G'day Curt. On 03/01/12 02:34, Curt wrote: There's nothing in the logs to distinguish the no poweroff shutdowns from the poweroff ones (I don't think; I have looked). I wouldn't think there would be at the very end, because everything is expecting to be powered off. Which makes everything all