On 6/27/23 14:05, David Wright wrote:
On Thu 22 Jun 2023 at 04:30:47 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
On 6/21/23 18:45, David Wright wrote:
On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 16:14:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote some words.
In reply:
Eh? Can I remind you that the Escape key is not a shift key;
you just have to
On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 21:25:15 (+), Andy Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 04:53:06PM +0100, David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 12:31:20 (+), Andy Smith wrote:
> > > feature rich editors like vim and emacs can easily write to files
> > > through sudo or sftp, thus enabling s
On Thu 22 Jun 2023 at 04:30:47 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/21/23 18:45, David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 16:14:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote some words.
> > In reply:
> >
> > Eh? Can I remind you that the Escape key is not a shift key;
> > you just have to press the Escape ke
On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 11:57:57 +0100
Joe wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 18:41:08 -0400
> Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > > 0 upgraded, 164 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> > > Need to get 44.5 MB of archives.
> > > Aft
On 6/21/23 18:45, David Wright wrote:
On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 16:14:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote some words.
In reply:
Eh? Can I remind you that the Escape key is not a shift key;
you just have to press the Escape key and /then/ the Zero key.
Cheers,
David.
.
Here, the esc key must be held whi
On 6/21/23 18:45, David Wright wrote:
On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 16:14:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote some words.
In reply:
Eh? Can I remind you that the Escape key is not a shift key;
you just have to press the Escape key and /then/ the Zero key.
Cheers,
David.
That could have been the sequence,
Andy Smith composed on 2023-06-21 21:07 (UTC):
> You were using XFCE4 on Wayland under bullseye right?
2 for 3. https://www.linux.org/threads/xfce-wayland.43792/ says it could not
have
been on Wayland.
The "wayland" that kept getting stuffed in his face was an entirely misleading
error message
On 6/21/23 17:08, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 03:50:31PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
On 6/20/23 18:23, Andy Smith wrote:
I think it's already been demonstrated in this thread that the
desktop launcher for Synaptic calls policykit to start it, so if as
you claim you do a sta
On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 16:14:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote some words.
In reply:
Eh? Can I remind you that the Escape key is not a shift key;
you just have to press the Escape key and /then/ the Zero key.
Cheers,
David.
Hello,
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 04:14:07PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/21/23 13:51, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > On Wednesday 21 June 2023 08:54:46 am Maurice Heskett wrote:
> > > it pisses me off that F10 has been stolen by the window
> > > managers to bring up a useless menu, making me f
Hi David,
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 04:53:06PM +0100, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 12:31:20 (+), Andy Smith wrote:
> > feature rich editors like vim and emacs can easily write to files
> > through sudo or sftp, thus enabling seamless editing of files as
> > different users and eve
Hello,
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 03:50:31PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/20/23 18:23, Andy Smith wrote:
> > I think it's already been demonstrated in this thread that the
> > desktop launcher for Synaptic calls policykit to start it, so if as
> > you claim you do a standard Debian install and t
Hello,
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 01:53:28PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> Oh, and synaptic asks for a pw, I give it mine, and it runs just fine.
Great, so hopefully you are now prepared to accept that all the
things about Synaptic not working under Wayland were a huge blind
alley.
We still don't kn
On 6/21/23 13:51, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
On Wednesday 21 June 2023 08:54:46 am Maurice Heskett wrote:
mc for a file manager since my original
install from floppies of redhat 5.0 in the late '90's. I am well aware
of what it CAN do. There is no gui file manager that can touch it for
utility,
On 6/20/23 21:25, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:56:36 -0400
gene heskett wrote:
Like firefox, its big and complex, but unlike
gedit has never trashed a file for me, gedit has ruined so many I
finally banned it from my machines, all of them.
Vim for the win! (kidding)
On 6/20/23 18:23, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello Gene,
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 06:01:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
Alright then the question is, is policykit the solution, or do we
install it, then spend two weeks and wreck 7 installs configuring
it to work? In other words, get to the specifics or f
On 6/20/23 18:13, Andy Smith wrote:
Hi Gene,
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 05:44:10PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
Please do not encourage Gene's fetish of running GUI apps as root.
[…]
Andy, if you aren't behind dd-wrt for your home network, don't pretend to
tell me what I can't do
I think your
On 6/21/23 11:56, David Wright wrote:
On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 08:29:55 (-0400), Maurice Heskett wrote:
I have a gent on the Sheldon list at groups.io who would like to see
how I solved a broke into pieces compound on my bigger lathe, linuxcnc
can do all that and then some w/o a compound, so mine
Le 21/06/2023 à 19:53, gene heskett a écrit :
welp, I just did a net install of at least half of bookworm,
[...]
Oh, and synaptic asks for a pw, I give it mine, and it runs just fine.
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
Glad to hear it, Gene :-)
On 6/20/23 18:53, Stefan Monnier wrote:
Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland with root permission.
Please restart your session without Wayland, or run Synaptic without
root permission
Thank you. That's the error I saw
Correction: the above is not an error message. It's a guess of the
On Wednesday 21 June 2023 08:54:46 am Maurice Heskett wrote:
> mc for a file manager since my original
> install from floppies of redhat 5.0 in the late '90's. I am well aware
> of what it CAN do. There is no gui file manager that can touch it for
> utility, and it pisses me off that F10 has bee
Gene Heskett composed on 2023-06-21 08:54 (UTC-0400):
> I KNOW what mc can do, do you?
Hopefully you are aware of how simple it can be to find and fix broken
permissions
in a corrupted homedir using https://paste.opensuse.org/bf6c16e7e2e6 (full
window
width pane).
--
Evolution as taught in pub
On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 21:49:54 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote:
> The ~/.Xauthority file contains *secrets*, see Xsecurity(7), so I
> would not encourage people to post its content.
It's a cookie. You can just remove the file and let startx recreate
it (or whatever DEs require as the equivalent). They
On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 08:29:55 (-0400), Maurice Heskett wrote:
> I have a gent on the Sheldon list at groups.io who would like to see
> how I solved a broke into pieces compound on my bigger lathe, linuxcnc
> can do all that and then some w/o a compound, so mine is now a block
> of a cast iron, ma
On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 12:31:20 (+), Andy Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:57:41PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400
> > gene heskett wrote:
> > > My fav editor, geany is also
> > > dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as
> > > me. S
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 09:49:54PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 21/06/2023 01:41, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > X clients these days need that to talk to the X server. On my box,
> > for example:
> >
> > tomas@trotzki:~$ hexdump -C .Xauthority
> > 01 00 00 07 74 72 6f 74 7a 6b
On 21/06/2023 01:15, gene heskett wrote:
gene@coyote:/usr/local/bin$ pkexec /usr/sbin/synaptic
Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not connect:
Connection refused
Failed to initialize GTK.
Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland with root permission.
Please restart y
On 21/06/2023 01:41, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
X clients these days need that to talk to the X server. On my box,
for example:
tomas@trotzki:~$ hexdump -C .Xauthority
01 00 00 07 74 72 6f 74 7a 6b 69 00 01 30 00 12
|trotzki..0..|
0010 4d 49 54 2d 4d 41 47 49 4
On 6/21/23 09:33, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 09:23:41AM -0400, Maurice Heskett wrote:
On 6/21/23 08:33, Andy Smith wrote:
I'm sure there are other advanced editors that can do the same.
Maybe geany can; I'm not familiar with it.
You are missing out on one of linux's be
Hi.
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:57:41PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400
> gene heskett wrote:
>
>
> > My fav editor, geany is also
> > dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as
> > me. So there is a common problem.
>
> Well, you could d
Hello,
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 09:23:41AM -0400, Maurice Heskett wrote:
> On 6/21/23 08:33, Andy Smith wrote:
> > I'm sure there are other advanced editors that can do the same.
> > Maybe geany can; I'm not familiar with it.
> You are missing out on one of linux's better coding efforts Andy. I hav
On 6/21/23 08:33, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:57:41PM +0100, Joe wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400
gene heskett wrote:
My fav editor, geany is also
dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as
me. So there is a common problem.
Well,
On 6/21/23 07:58, Joe wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400
gene heskett wrote:
My fav editor, geany is also
dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as
me. So there is a common problem.
Well, you could do it the right way: edit as you with geany in a work
di
Hello,
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:57:41PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400
> gene heskett wrote:
> > My fav editor, geany is also
> > dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as
> > me. So there is a common problem.
>
> Well, you could do it the ri
On 6/21/23 03:01, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 2:24 AM Maurice Heskett wrote:
On 6/20/23 22:17, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400
Greg Wooledge wrote:
[...]
In a sensible design, the GUI part would run as you, and it would send
requests to a
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400
gene heskett wrote:
> My fav editor, geany is also
> dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as
> me. So there is a common problem.
Well, you could do it the right way: edit as you with geany in a work
directory, copy to/from the rea
Jeffrey Walton composed on 2023-06-21 03:00 (UTC-0400):
> Maurice Heskett wrote:
...
>> the only damned way I can
>> login is as root!
...
> Who are you? I thought a person named Gene was having trouble. Why are
> you logging in as gene?
Because
to...@tuxteam.de (12023-06-21):
> In my view, the user should have the last say. For
> me, that is non-negociable :-)
Plonk is not restricting anybody's freedom to have the last say. And
plonk is clearly the only sane way of dealing with threads like this and
the people who feed them
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 2:24 AM Maurice Heskett wrote:
> On 6/20/23 22:17, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400
> > Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > [...]
> >> In a sensible design, the GUI part would run as you, and it would send
> >> requests to a daemon that runs as ro
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 02:23:31AM -0400, Maurice Heskett wrote:
> my last msg indicated I was going to logout and back in. Which I
> tried to do, but with a root pw set, or something else, IDK and
> don't at this point care because the only damned way I can login
> is as root!!
On 6/21/23 01:12, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:17 PM wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400
Greg Wooledge wrote:
[...]
In a sensible design, the GUI part would run as you, and it would send
requests to a daemon that runs as root, or simply issue shell commands
with "s
On 6/20/23 22:17, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400
Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com
wrote:
Apparently the broader dictum is "never run GUI apps as root". Why?
What's special about GUI apps versus those yo
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:17 PM wrote:
>
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400
> Greg Wooledge wrote:
> [...]
> > In a sensible design, the GUI part would run as you, and it would send
> > requests to a daemon that runs as root, or simply issue shell commands
> > with "sudo" or something, to do t
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 05:19:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
[...]
> geany it seems might have a problem.
> But it wasn't installed so I just used packagekit to install all of it as I
> use it heavily writing g-codes, so lets try it live and in person:
>
> root@coyote:~# geany .Xauthority
> Inv
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 09:40:22PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 18:12:56 -0400
> Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > 1) Have a root password. SET A FUCKING ROOT PASSWORD. Seriously.
>
> Do that, and there are those who will harangue you for it. Sadly,
> people
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 07:49:07PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 07:35:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > with a slight difference. So now I have an unk pw set for root, and will
> > likely have to re-install, again if I reboot.
>
> Nonsense. You can set a new root p
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 08:39:35PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:57:30AM -0400, Sarunas Burdulis wrote:
> > On 6/20/23 10:51, gene heskett wrote:
> > > Easy:
> > > gene@coyote:~/Pictures$ sudo synaptic
> > > [sudo] password for gene:
> > > Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKI
writes:
> I infer that Synaptic, by requiring root privileges to be truly useful,
> is mis-designed, since there isn't a daemon executing root level
> commands in the background.
Well, no. There is a common framework for this and it's called
PolicyKit.
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com
> wrote:
> > Apparently the broader dictum is "never run GUI apps as root". Why?
> > What's special about GUI apps versus those you run in a terminal?
>
> The extreme examp
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 18:12:56 -0400
Greg Wooledge wrote:
[snip]
> 1) Have a root password. SET A FUCKING ROOT PASSWORD. Seriously.
Do that, and there are those who will harangue you for it. Sadly,
people who argue either way know more than I do about these security
matters. And because expert
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:56:36 -0400
gene heskett wrote:
> Like firefox, its big and complex, but unlike
> gedit has never trashed a file for me, gedit has ruined so many I
> finally banned it from my machines, all of them.
Vim for the win! (kidding)
Paul
--
Paul M. Foster
Personal Blog: http:/
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 07:35:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> with a slight difference. So now I have an unk pw set for root, and will
> likely have to re-install, again if I reboot.
Nonsense. You can set a new root password with "sudo passwd root" any
time you wish, even without knowing t
On 6/20/23 18:13, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 06:01:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
Alright then the question is, is policykit the solution, or do we
install it, then spend two weeks and wreck 7 installs configuring
it to work? In other words, get to the specifics or find a new
> I understand not running, say, VLC as root. But Synaptic? It allows you
> to search, install and remove packages. Two of those things can't be
> done without root permissions. I absolutely run it as root.
>
The problem is not what the App is expected to do, but the GUI code may
"accidentally" do
>> Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland with root permission.
>> Please restart your session without Wayland, or run Synaptic without
>> root permission
>
> Thank you. That's the error I saw
Correction: the above is not an error message. It's a guess of the
likely cause of the error messa
Hello Gene,
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 06:01:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> Alright then the question is, is policykit the solution, or do we
> install it, then spend two weeks and wreck 7 installs configuring
> it to work? In other words, get to the specifics or find a new horse.
I think it's al
Hi Gene,
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 05:44:10PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > Please do not encourage Gene's fetish of running GUI apps as root.
[…]
> Andy, if you aren't behind dd-wrt for your home network, don't pretend to
> tell me what I can't do
I think your contributions to this list do a gr
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 06:01:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> Alright then the question is, is policykit the solution, or do we
> install it, then spend two weeks and wreck 7 installs configuring
> it to work? In other words, get to the specifics or find a new horse.
I don't use synaptic, or xfc
On 6/20/23 17:18, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 20:39:35 +
Andy Smith wrote:
Please do not encourage Gene's fetish of running GUI apps as root.
Plenty of people have been wasting their time trying to t
On 6/20/23 17:03, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
Apparently the broader dictum is "never run GUI apps as root". Why?
What's special about GUI apps versus those you run in a terminal?
The extreme example is a web browser. Your typi
On 6/20/23 16:40, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:57:30AM -0400, Sarunas Burdulis wrote:
On 6/20/23 10:51, gene heskett wrote:
Easy:
gene@coyote:~/Pictures$ sudo synaptic
[sudo] password for gene:
Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not connect:
Conne
On 6/20/23 16:01, Charles Curley wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 13:37:01 -0400
gene heskett wrote:
Gene, this is a long shot. Do you have any KDE or qt components
installed?
in packagekit:
kde search = desktop-base, girl.2-webkit2, libblockdev2,
libblockdev-crypto2, libblockdev-fs2, libblock
gene heskett composed on 2023-06-20 16:08 (UTC-0400):
> Felix Miata wrote:
>> gene heskett composed on 2023-06-20 10:51 (UTC-0400):
Independently of whether you are able to do that without corrupting
something,
please provide here GUI terminal input/output from 'inxi -GSaz',
The
On 6/20/23 14:35, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:15:19 -0400
gene heskett wrote:
[snip]
gene@coyote:/usr/local/bin$ pkexec /usr/sbin/synaptic
Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not
connect: Connection refused
Failed to initialize GTK.
Probably y
Hello,
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 20:39:35 +
> Andy Smith wrote:
> > Please do not encourage Gene's fetish of running GUI apps as root.
> > Plenty of people have been wasting their time trying to tell him not
> > to do that f
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> Apparently the broader dictum is "never run GUI apps as root". Why?
> What's special about GUI apps versus those you run in a terminal?
The extreme example is a web browser. Your typical web browser probably
has thousands
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 20:39:35 +
Andy Smith wrote:
[snip]
>
> Please do not encourage Gene's fetish of running GUI apps as root.
> Plenty of people have been wasting their time trying to tell him not
> to do that for years now, and the last thing they need is bystanders
> handing him a differ
On 6/20/23 14:32, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 02:15:19PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
On 6/20/23 14:03, zithro wrote:
On 20 Jun 2023 18:21, Charles Curley wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:52:47 +0200
Anders Andersson wrote:
I'm running Gnome. Maybe synaptic is not compatible
Hello,
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:57:30AM -0400, Sarunas Burdulis wrote:
> On 6/20/23 10:51, gene heskett wrote:
> > Easy:
> > gene@coyote:~/Pictures$ sudo synaptic
> > [sudo] password for gene:
> > Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not connect:
> > Connection refused
> >
On 6/20/23 12:50, Felix Miata wrote:
gene heskett composed on 2023-06-20 10:51 (UTC-0400):
Independently of whether you are able to do that without corrupting something,
please provide here GUI terminal input/output from 'inxi -GSaz',
...
This is still bullseye, a netinstall from a week ago a
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 13:37:01 -0400
gene heskett wrote:
> >
> > Gene, this is a long shot. Do you have any KDE or qt components
> > installed?
> >
> in packagekit:
> kde search = desktop-base, girl.2-webkit2, libblockdev2,
> libblockdev-crypto2, libblockdev-fs2, libblockdev-loop2,
> libblock
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 02:35:08PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:15:19 -0400
> gene heskett wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > gene@coyote:/usr/local/bin$ pkexec /usr/sbin/synaptic
> > Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not
> > connect: Connection re
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:15:19 -0400
gene heskett wrote:
[snip]
> gene@coyote:/usr/local/bin$ pkexec /usr/sbin/synaptic
> Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not
> connect: Connection refused
> Failed to initialize GTK.
>
> Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland with r
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 02:15:19PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/20/23 14:03, zithro wrote:
> > On 20 Jun 2023 18:21, Charles Curley wrote:
> > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:52:47 +0200
> > > Anders Andersson wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm running Gnome. Maybe synaptic is not compatible with xfce?
> > >
On 6/20/23 14:03, zithro wrote:
On 20 Jun 2023 18:21, Charles Curley wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:52:47 +0200
Anders Andersson wrote:
I'm running Gnome. Maybe synaptic is not compatible with xfce?
Nope. I have synaptic running here with xfce4 on Bullseye.
synaptic 0.90.2 amd64
x
On 20 Jun 2023 18:21, Charles Curley wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:52:47 +0200
Anders Andersson wrote:
I'm running Gnome. Maybe synaptic is not compatible with xfce?
Nope. I have synaptic running here with xfce4 on Bullseye.
synaptic0.90.2 amd64
xfce4 4.16all
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:51:13AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
[...]
> Easy:
> gene@coyote:~/Pictures$ sudo synaptic
> [sudo] password for gene:
> Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not connect:
> Connection refused
> Failed to initialize GTK.
Gene,
this is just not going
On 6/20/23 12:15, Charles Curley wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 10:10:26 -0400
gene heskett wrote:
I am not a gnome fan. Packagekit says all 157 synaptic dependencies
are present and accounted for, but it will not run here, bitching
about wayland and root.
So IMNSHO, there must be a dependency th
writes:
> [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]]
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:06:23AM -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote:
>> > As far as I know, apt is pretty much apt-get
>>
>> If you're using Debian 12 then the -get is gone.
>
> No, it's still there, whenever you need it :)
>
> Cheers
IIUC "apt" is a repl
gene heskett composed on 2023-06-20 10:51 (UTC-0400):
>> Independently of whether you are able to do that without corrupting
>> something,
>> please provide here GUI terminal input/output from 'inxi -GSaz',
...
> This is still bullseye, a netinstall from a week ago and I have
> no inxi according
On Tue 20 Jun 2023 at 11:12:37 (-0400), pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 10:51:13 -0400
> gene heskett wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>
> > Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland with root permission.
> > Please restart your session without Wayland, or run Synaptic without
> > ro
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:52:47 +0200
Anders Andersson wrote:
> I'm running Gnome. Maybe synaptic is not compatible with xfce?
Nope. I have synaptic running here with xfce4 on Bullseye.
synaptic0.90.2 amd64
xfce4 4.16all
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On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 10:10:26 -0400
gene heskett wrote:
> I am not a gnome fan. Packagekit says all 157 synaptic dependencies
> are present and accounted for, but it will not run here, bitching
> about wayland and root.
>
> So IMNSHO, there must be a dependency that isn't satisfied on an
> xfce4
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 10:51:13 -0400
gene heskett wrote:
> gene@coyote:~/Pictures$ sudo synaptic
> [sudo] password for gene:
> Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not
> connect: Connection refused
> Failed to initialize GTK.
>
> Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland w
On 6/20/23 11:29, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:52:47 +0200
Anders Andersson wrote:
I don't have synaptic in the path, but the icon is setup to start a
program that *is* in my path: synaptic-pkexec
Maybe you can try that, I think that's responsible for asking about
you
On 6/20/23 10:57, Sarunas Burdulis wrote:
On 6/20/23 10:51, gene heskett wrote:
Easy:
gene@coyote:~/Pictures$ sudo synaptic
[sudo] password for gene:
Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not
connect: Connection refused
Failed to initialize GTK.
[...]
So perhaps copy tha
On 6/20/23 10:54, Anders Andersson wrote:
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 9:36 AM gene heskett wrote:
On 6/20/23 00:32, Anders Andersson wrote:
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 5:38 AM gene heskett wrote:
I'm with you Paul, if Anders know how to do it, please PUBLISH the how.
For a while on bullseye, a "sud
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 10:51:13 -0400
gene heskett wrote:
[snip]
> Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland with root permission.
> Please restart your session without Wayland, or run Synaptic without
> root permission
Thank you. That's the error I saw when I tried this some time back
under W
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:52:47 +0200
Anders Andersson wrote:
> I don't have synaptic in the path, but the icon is setup to start a
> program that *is* in my path: synaptic-pkexec
>
> Maybe you can try that, I think that's responsible for asking about
> your password.
/usr/bin/synaptic-pkexec is a
On 6/20/23 10:51, gene heskett wrote:
Easy:
gene@coyote:~/Pictures$ sudo synaptic
[sudo] password for gene:
Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not connect:
Connection refused
Failed to initialize GTK.
[...]
So perhaps copy that cookie into /root/?:
sudo cp /home/gene/
On 6/20/23 08:06, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 03:36:20AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
from an xfce4 terminal shell, it bitches about wayland and exits,
Please show the command you typed, and the full output of that command.
It's pretty irritating that we have to ASK for that.
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 9:36 AM gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/20/23 00:32, Anders Andersson wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 5:38 AM gene heskett wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm with you Paul, if Anders know how to do it, please PUBLISH the how.
> >> For a while on bullseye, a "sudo -E synaptic" worked, then
On 6/20/23 07:17, Felix Miata wrote:
gene heskett composed on 2023-06-20 03:13 (UTC-0400):
Why is it Gene thinks any trouble he has has anything to do with Wayland? XFCE
doesn't run in Wayland. The only Wayland XFCE users must have is the foundation
Wayland requires from Xorg, which no one can
On Tue 20 Jun 2023 at 10:10:26 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/20/23 05:22, didier gaumet wrote:
> > - Synaptic does not need Wayland, it can run on Wayland.
> >
> > - On a standard Debian 12 (Gnome) installation, Synaptic works OOTB
> >
> I am not a gnome fan. Packagekit says all 157 synapt
On 6/20/23 05:22, didier gaumet wrote:
Le 20/06/2023 à 09:13, gene heskett a écrit :
That needs a better explanation, Felix. As I see it, wayland can't run
as root, so no app that needs root works with wayland. Since package
managers with a gui need wayland, all the package managers that do
h
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 03:36:20AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> from an xfce4 terminal shell, it bitches about wayland and exits,
Please show the command you typed, and the full output of that command.
It's pretty irritating that we have to ASK for that. You should know
to provide such basic inf
gene heskett composed on 2023-06-20 03:13 (UTC-0400):
>> Why is it Gene thinks any trouble he has has anything to do with Wayland?
>> XFCE
>> doesn't run in Wayland. The only Wayland XFCE users must have is the
>> foundation
>> Wayland requires from Xorg, which no one can be rid of (nor need to)
Le 20/06/2023 à 09:13, gene heskett a écrit :
That needs a better explanation, Felix. As I see it, wayland can't run
as root, so no app that needs root works with wayland. Since package
managers with a gui need wayland, all the package managers that do have
a gui, are now dead except gnome pac
Le 20/06/2023 à 04:41, pa...@quillandmouse.com a écrit :
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 03:58:18 +0200
Anders Andersson wrote:
[snip]
I've been watching this thread from afar for a while and it still
puzzles me why people keep bringing up wayland. I've been running
wayland for years, and synaptic works
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:06:23AM -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> > As far as I know, apt is pretty much apt-get
>
> If you're using Debian 12 then the -get is gone.
No, it's still there, whenever you need it :)
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