Re: Package kde-config-mobile-networking - what does it do?

On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 19:54:19 -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > Try running `sudo apt info kde-config-mobile-networking` and see what the > info says. You don't even need sudo for that.

Re: Package kde-config-mobile-networking - what does it do?

On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 2:37 PM Hans wrote: > Hi, > > just a question: today I stumbled over the package "kde-config-mobile- > networking" and installed it. But I saw no change of my system. I even did > not > find any change in kde-systemsettings. Is this an older and unneeded > package? > > Netw

Re: Package kde-config-mobile-networking - what does it do?

On 01/04/2025 16:01, Hans wrote: Hi, just a question: today I stumbled over the package "kde-config-mobile- networking" and installed it. But I saw no change of my system. I even did not find any change in kde-systemsettings. Is this an older and unneeded package? Network-manager is already cre

Re: Package name question

On 2024-11-29 03:06, Darac Marjal wrote: * "systemctl list-units --all" will list all the services installed on your system. You can search that for something likely looking (e.g. something beginning with "mysql" or similar). this works for me. thank you for your help.

Re: Package name question

On 28/11/2024 18:52, Bitfox wrote: Hello After I installed mysql 8.0 via apt install mysql-server, I tried to restart mysql server. I issued the following commands, systemctl restart mysql-server systemctl restart mysqld They got failed, no package was found. Then I run systemctl restart m

Re: Package name question

On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 02:52:29AM +0800, Bitfox wrote: > Hello > > After I installed mysql 8.0 via apt install mysql-server, I tried to restart > mysql server. > > I issued the following commands, > > systemctl restart mysql-server > systemctl restart mysqld > > They got failed, no package was

Re: Package lists with state and extended state

On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 1:58:25 PM CEST Christoph Pleger wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to install many computers with largely the same package > list. To do this, I can use > > dpkg --get-selections > packages.lst > > to create a list of the installed packages from a computer on which I > h

Re: Package libllvm12:i386 does not exists on Debian ?

I don't think that I found a bug. I think that Chrome does not work with wine because wine is always an incomplete product in relation to the changes that the developers add for a variety of sturdy Windows tools. And anyway,if the problem / bug exists,it's not related to i386,because as I said,I've

Re: Package libllvm12:i386 does not exists on Debian ?

On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 12:48 PM Mario Marietto wrote: > > Hello to everyone. > > I'm trying to compile wine-tkg from this repo : > > https://github.com/Frogging-Family/wine-tkg-git > > This is what I did,according with the short tutorial : > > root@debian-now:/home/marietto/Scaricati/wine-tkg-git

Re: *****SPAM***** Re: Package libllvm12:i386 does not exists on Debian ?

Yes, this is, where the entry "i386" is put in. I remember, to execute the command "dpkg --add-architecture i386" a very long time ago. Thus, aptitude now knows about it. Zhanks for making things clearer. Best Hans > Indeed, multi-arch is a dpkg thing. The list of current architectures > is k

Re: Package libllvm12:i386 does not exists on Debian ?

On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 12:37:06PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2024-06-16 at 12:18, Hans wrote: > > > I am wondering, why aptitude is showing me (incorrectlly?) > > libllvm*:i386 and apt-get not. > > > > I have no i386 entry in sources.list, but where does aptitude get its > > information? >

Re: Package libllvm12:i386 does not exists on Debian ?

On 2024-06-16 at 12:18, Hans wrote: > I am wondering, why aptitude is showing me (incorrectlly?) > libllvm*:i386 and apt-get not. > > I have no i386 entry in sources.list, but where does aptitude get its > information? AFAIK, /etc/sources.list does not record architectures; it only records mirro

Re: *****SPAM***** Re: Package libllvm12:i386 does not exists on Debian ?

I am wondering, why aptitude is showing me (incorrectlly?) libllvm*:i386 and apt-get not. I have no i386 entry in sources.list, but where does aptitude get its information? apt-cache search libllvm | grep i386 aptitude search libllvm | grep i386

Re: Package libllvm12:i386 does not exists on Debian ?

On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 09:50:45AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: [...] > If you are on amd64 and want i386 packages, you must first enable the > i386 packages. I'll let you search for the appropriate instructions. To me, that seems the most promising avenue. See dpkg --add-architecture to "add"

Re: Package libllvm12:i386 does not exists on Debian ?

On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 15:41:59 +0200 Mario Marietto wrote: > I'm trying to compile wine-tkg from this repo : > > https://github.com/Frogging-Family/wine-tkg-git > > This is what I did,according with the short tutorial : > > root@debian-now:/home/marietto/Scaricati/wine-tkg-git/wine-tkg-git# > ./

Re: Package libllvm12:i386 does not exists on Debian

Errata corrige : that's not the correct package. The package I need is for i386. On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 4:43 PM Mario Marietto wrote: > I've found the required package here : > > > https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20220531T025502Z/pool/main/l/llvm-toolchain-12/libllvm12_12.0.1-21_amd

Re: Package libllvm12:i386 does not exists on Debian

I've found the required package here : https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20220531T025502Z/pool/main/l/llvm-toolchain-12/libllvm12_12.0.1-21_amd64.deb But according with this post : https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/rbeq4o/libllvm12_package_is_breaking_steam/ it seems that "libll

Re: Package libllvm12:i386 does not exists on Debian

On Sun 16 Jun 2024 at 15:41:59 (+0200), Mario Marietto wrote: > root@debian-now:/home/marietto/Scaricati/wine-tkg-git/wine-tkg-git# apt > install libllvm12:i386 > E: Can't find package libllvm12:i386 > > So,I would like to know how to install the package "libllvm12:i386". > > I tried to look for

Re: Package Identification Assistance

On Thu, 2024-02-15 at 20:33 -0500, Neal Heinecke wrote: > I need to identify the package responsible for creating the software > sources window. There is a minor bug/typo where the first tab reads > "Ubuntu Software" This could be synaptic? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto Does th

Re: Package Identification Assistance

On 16/02/2024 21:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 09:05:28PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: I suspect that program name is the question. If "ps awf" gives no clue then perhaps the following may help (untested): https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/362731/how-to-identify-window-by

Re: Package Identification Assistance

On 2024-02-16 at 09:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: >>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:33:16 -0500 Neal Heinecke wrote: >>> I need to identify the package responsible for creating the software sources window. There is a minor bug/typo where the first tab reads "Ubuntu Software" > I would also po

Re: Package Identification Assistance

On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 09:05:28PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 16/02/2024 12:16, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:33:16 -0500 > > Neal Heinecke wrote: > > > > > I need to identify the package responsible for creating the software > > > sources window. There is a minor bug/typo w

Re: Package Identification Assistance

On 16/02/2024 12:16, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:33:16 -0500 Neal Heinecke wrote: I need to identify the package responsible for creating the software sources window. There is a minor bug/typo where the first tab reads "Ubuntu Software" I have no idea what a "software sources

Re: Package Identification Assistance

On 2/16/24, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:33:16 -0500 > Neal Heinecke wrote: > >> I need to identify the package responsible for creating the software >> sources window. There is a minor bug/typo where the first tab reads >> "Ubuntu Software" > > I have no idea what a "software s

Re: Package Identification Assistance

> I need to identify the package responsible for creating the software > sources window. There is a minor bug/typo where the first tab reads > "Ubuntu Software" If all else fails, you can always try something like: find / -mount -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -al "Ubuntu Software" to find f

Re: Package Identification Assistance

On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 12:27 AM Neal Heinecke wrote: > > I need to identify the package responsible for creating the software sources > window. There is a minor bug/typo where the first tab reads "Ubuntu Software" If you can locate the program that owns the window, then you can identify the pac

Re: Package Identification Assistance

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:33:16 -0500 Neal Heinecke wrote: > I need to identify the package responsible for creating the software > sources window. There is a minor bug/typo where the first tab reads > "Ubuntu Software" I have no idea what a "software sources window" is. Do you know the name of the

Re: package manager

On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 11:57:58 -0600 William Torrez Corea wrote: > > Hit:8 https://repo.steampowered.com/steam stable InRelease > > > > Hit:9 https://ftp.postgresql.org/pub/pgadmin/pgadmin4/apt/bullseye > > pgadmin4 InRelease > > Hit:10 tor+http://deb.ooni.org unstable InRelease > > Err:4 http://re

Re: package manager

Hi William, On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 11:57:58AM -0600, William Torrez Corea wrote: > > W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is > > not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: > > http://repo.mysql.com/apt/debian bullseye InRelease: The followi

Re: Package policy?

It's the Lord's will Hans, you have to accept it. Follow the prophet sid. -- Deo Soli Debianea Invicto Seculari

Re: Package policy?

On Tue, 08 Aug 2023 16:24:45 +0200 Hans wrote: Hello Hans, >I can only guess, the package maintainers removed it, because it did >not work somewhow, but why then put it back again? They didn't put it back. It was never removed from Sid (things rarely are)[1]. It was removed from Testing in Oc

Re: Package policy?

On Tue, 2023-08-08 at 16:24 +0200, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > sometimes I do not understand, how debian is handling packages. Here is > another weired case. > > Package roger-router: available in bullseye, NOT available in bookworm, but > again available in sid??? Probably because it had a c

Re: package managers problem

On 6/27/23 14:05, David Wright wrote: On Thu 22 Jun 2023 at 04:30:47 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: On 6/21/23 18:45, David Wright wrote: On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 16:14:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote some words. In reply: Eh? Can I remind you that the Escape key is not a shift key; you just have to

Re: package managers problem

On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 21:25:15 (+), Andy Smith wrote: > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 04:53:06PM +0100, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 12:31:20 (+), Andy Smith wrote: > > > feature rich editors like vim and emacs can easily write to files > > > through sudo or sftp, thus enabling s

Re: package managers problem

On Thu 22 Jun 2023 at 04:30:47 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 6/21/23 18:45, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 16:14:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote some words. > > In reply: > > > > Eh? Can I remind you that the Escape key is not a shift key; > > you just have to press the Escape ke

Re: package managers problem

On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 11:57:57 +0100 Joe wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 18:41:08 -0400 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > 0 upgraded, 164 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > > > Need to get 44.5 MB of archives. > > > Aft

Re: Package relevant to backlight control?

look kernel module `modinfo applesmc` like this 25.06.2023 19:21, Gerald Anzalone пишет: Hi: Since upgrading to Bookworm, the backlight control on my Apple iMac no longer works. I would like to report this bug, but don't know which packa

Re: package managers problem

On 6/21/23 18:45, David Wright wrote: On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 16:14:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote some words. In reply: Eh? Can I remind you that the Escape key is not a shift key; you just have to press the Escape key and /then/ the Zero key. Cheers, David. . Here, the esc key must be held whi

Re: package managers problem

On 6/21/23 18:45, David Wright wrote: On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 16:14:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote some words. In reply: Eh? Can I remind you that the Escape key is not a shift key; you just have to press the Escape key and /then/ the Zero key. Cheers, David. That could have been the sequence,

Re: package managers problem

Andy Smith composed on 2023-06-21 21:07 (UTC): > You were using XFCE4 on Wayland under bullseye right? 2 for 3. https://www.linux.org/threads/xfce-wayland.43792/ says it could not have been on Wayland. The "wayland" that kept getting stuffed in his face was an entirely misleading error message

Re: package managers problem

On 6/21/23 17:08, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 03:50:31PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 6/20/23 18:23, Andy Smith wrote: I think it's already been demonstrated in this thread that the desktop launcher for Synaptic calls policykit to start it, so if as you claim you do a sta

Re: package managers problem

On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 16:14:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote some words. In reply: Eh? Can I remind you that the Escape key is not a shift key; you just have to press the Escape key and /then/ the Zero key. Cheers, David.

Desktop environments stealing app key shortcuts (Was Re: package managers problem)

Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 04:14:07PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/21/23 13:51, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > On Wednesday 21 June 2023 08:54:46 am Maurice Heskett wrote: > > > it pisses me off that F10 has been stolen by the window > > > managers to bring up a useless menu, making me f

Re: package managers problem

Hi David, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 04:53:06PM +0100, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 12:31:20 (+), Andy Smith wrote: > > feature rich editors like vim and emacs can easily write to files > > through sudo or sftp, thus enabling seamless editing of files as > > different users and eve

Re: package managers problem

Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 03:50:31PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/20/23 18:23, Andy Smith wrote: > > I think it's already been demonstrated in this thread that the > > desktop launcher for Synaptic calls policykit to start it, so if as > > you claim you do a standard Debian install and t

Re: package managers problem

Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 01:53:28PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Oh, and synaptic asks for a pw, I give it mine, and it runs just fine. Great, so hopefully you are now prepared to accept that all the things about Synaptic not working under Wayland were a huge blind alley. We still don't kn

Re: package managers problem

On 6/21/23 13:51, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Wednesday 21 June 2023 08:54:46 am Maurice Heskett wrote: mc for a file manager since my original install from floppies of redhat 5.0 in the late '90's. I am well aware of what it CAN do. There is no gui file manager that can touch it for utility,

Re: package managers problem

On 6/20/23 21:25, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:56:36 -0400 gene heskett wrote: Like firefox, its big and complex, but unlike gedit has never trashed a file for me, gedit has ruined so many I finally banned it from my machines, all of them. Vim for the win! (kidding)

Re: package managers problem

On 6/20/23 18:23, Andy Smith wrote: Hello Gene, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 06:01:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: Alright then the question is, is policykit the solution, or do we install it, then spend two weeks and wreck 7 installs configuring it to work? In other words, get to the specifics or f

Re: package managers problem

On 6/20/23 18:13, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Gene, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 05:44:10PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: Please do not encourage Gene's fetish of running GUI apps as root. […] Andy, if you aren't behind dd-wrt for your home network, don't pretend to tell me what I can't do I think your

Re: package managers problem

On 6/21/23 11:56, David Wright wrote: On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 08:29:55 (-0400), Maurice Heskett wrote: I have a gent on the Sheldon list at groups.io who would like to see how I solved a broke into pieces compound on my bigger lathe, linuxcnc can do all that and then some w/o a compound, so mine

Re: package managers problem

Le 21/06/2023 à 19:53, gene heskett a écrit : welp, I just did a net install of at least half of bookworm, [...] Oh, and synaptic asks for a pw, I give it mine, and it runs just fine. Cheers, Gene Heskett. Glad to hear it, Gene :-)

Re: package managers problem

On 6/20/23 18:53, Stefan Monnier wrote: Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland with root permission. Please restart your session without Wayland, or run Synaptic without root permission Thank you. That's the error I saw Correction: the above is not an error message. It's a guess of the

Re: package managers problem

On Wednesday 21 June 2023 08:54:46 am Maurice Heskett wrote: > mc for a file manager since my original > install from floppies of redhat 5.0 in the late '90's. I am well aware > of what it CAN do. There is no gui file manager that can touch it for > utility, and it pisses me off that F10 has bee

Re: package managers problem

Gene Heskett composed on 2023-06-21 08:54 (UTC-0400): > I KNOW what mc can do, do you? Hopefully you are aware of how simple it can be to find and fix broken permissions in a corrupted homedir using https://paste.opensuse.org/bf6c16e7e2e6 (full window width pane). -- Evolution as taught in pub

Re: package managers problem

On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 21:49:54 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > The ~/.Xauthority file contains *secrets*, see Xsecurity(7), so I > would not encourage people to post its content. It's a cookie. You can just remove the file and let startx recreate it (or whatever DEs require as the equivalent). They

Re: package managers problem

On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 08:29:55 (-0400), Maurice Heskett wrote: > I have a gent on the Sheldon list at groups.io who would like to see > how I solved a broke into pieces compound on my bigger lathe, linuxcnc > can do all that and then some w/o a compound, so mine is now a block > of a cast iron, ma

Re: package managers problem

On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 12:31:20 (+), Andy Smith wrote: > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:57:41PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400 > > gene heskett wrote: > > > My fav editor, geany is also > > > dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as > > > me. S

Re: package managers problem

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 09:49:54PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 21/06/2023 01:41, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > X clients these days need that to talk to the X server. On my box, > > for example: > > > > tomas@trotzki:~$ hexdump -C .Xauthority > > 01 00 00 07 74 72 6f 74 7a 6b

Re: package managers problem

On 21/06/2023 01:15, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:/usr/local/bin$ pkexec /usr/sbin/synaptic Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused Failed to initialize GTK. Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland with root permission. Please restart y

Re: package managers problem

On 21/06/2023 01:41, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: X clients these days need that to talk to the X server. On my box, for example: tomas@trotzki:~$ hexdump -C .Xauthority 01 00 00 07 74 72 6f 74 7a 6b 69 00 01 30 00 12 |trotzki..0..| 0010 4d 49 54 2d 4d 41 47 49 4

Re: package managers problem

On 6/21/23 09:33, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 09:23:41AM -0400, Maurice Heskett wrote: On 6/21/23 08:33, Andy Smith wrote: I'm sure there are other advanced editors that can do the same. Maybe geany can; I'm not familiar with it. You are missing out on one of linux's be

Re: package managers problem

Hi. On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:57:41PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400 > gene heskett wrote: > > > > My fav editor, geany is also > > dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as > > me. So there is a common problem. > > Well, you could d

Re: package managers problem

Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 09:23:41AM -0400, Maurice Heskett wrote: > On 6/21/23 08:33, Andy Smith wrote: > > I'm sure there are other advanced editors that can do the same. > > Maybe geany can; I'm not familiar with it. > You are missing out on one of linux's better coding efforts Andy. I hav

Re: package managers problem

On 6/21/23 08:33, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:57:41PM +0100, Joe wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400 gene heskett wrote: My fav editor, geany is also dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as me. So there is a common problem. Well,

Re: package managers problem

On 6/21/23 07:58, Joe wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400 gene heskett wrote: My fav editor, geany is also dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as me. So there is a common problem. Well, you could do it the right way: edit as you with geany in a work di

Re: package managers problem

Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:57:41PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400 > gene heskett wrote: > > My fav editor, geany is also > > dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as > > me. So there is a common problem. > > Well, you could do it the ri

Re: package managers problem

On 6/21/23 03:01, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 2:24 AM Maurice Heskett wrote: On 6/20/23 22:17, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] In a sensible design, the GUI part would run as you, and it would send requests to a

Re: package managers problem

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400 gene heskett wrote: > My fav editor, geany is also > dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as > me. So there is a common problem. Well, you could do it the right way: edit as you with geany in a work directory, copy to/from the rea

Re: package managers problem

Jeffrey Walton composed on 2023-06-21 03:00 (UTC-0400): > Maurice Heskett wrote: ... >> the only damned way I can >> login is as root! ... > Who are you? I thought a person named Gene was having trouble. Why are > you logging in as gene? Because

Re: package managers problem

to...@tuxteam.de (12023-06-21): > In my view, the user should have the last say. For > me, that is non-negociable :-) Plonk is not restricting anybody's freedom to have the last say. And plonk is clearly the only sane way of dealing with threads like this and the people who feed them

Re: package managers problem

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 2:24 AM Maurice Heskett wrote: > On 6/20/23 22:17, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400 > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [...] > >> In a sensible design, the GUI part would run as you, and it would send > >> requests to a daemon that runs as ro

Re: package managers problem

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 02:23:31AM -0400, Maurice Heskett wrote: > my last msg indicated I was going to logout and back in. Which I > tried to do, but with a root pw set, or something else, IDK and > don't at this point care because the only damned way I can login > is as root!!

Re: package managers problem

On 6/21/23 01:12, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:17 PM wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] In a sensible design, the GUI part would run as you, and it would send requests to a daemon that runs as root, or simply issue shell commands with "s

Re: package managers problem

On 6/20/23 22:17, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: Apparently the broader dictum is "never run GUI apps as root". Why? What's special about GUI apps versus those yo

Re: package managers problem

On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:17 PM wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > [...] > > In a sensible design, the GUI part would run as you, and it would send > > requests to a daemon that runs as root, or simply issue shell commands > > with "sudo" or something, to do t

Re: package managers problem

On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 05:19:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > geany it seems might have a problem. > But it wasn't installed so I just used packagekit to install all of it as I > use it heavily writing g-codes, so lets try it live and in person: > > root@coyote:~# geany .Xauthority > Inv

Re: package managers problem

On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 09:40:22PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 18:12:56 -0400 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [snip] > > > 1) Have a root password. SET A FUCKING ROOT PASSWORD. Seriously. > > Do that, and there are those who will harangue you for it. Sadly, > people

Re: package managers problem

On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 07:49:07PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 07:35:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > with a slight difference. So now I have an unk pw set for root, and will > > likely have to re-install, again if I reboot. > > Nonsense. You can set a new root p

Re: package managers problem

On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 08:39:35PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:57:30AM -0400, Sarunas Burdulis wrote: > > On 6/20/23 10:51, gene heskett wrote: > > > Easy: > > > gene@coyote:~/Pictures$ sudo synaptic > > > [sudo] password for gene: > > > Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKI

Re: package managers problem

writes: > I infer that Synaptic, by requiring root privileges to be truly useful, > is mis-designed, since there isn't a daemon executing root level > commands in the background. Well, no. There is a common framework for this and it's called PolicyKit.

Re: package managers problem

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com > wrote: > > Apparently the broader dictum is "never run GUI apps as root". Why? > > What's special about GUI apps versus those you run in a terminal? > > The extreme examp

Re: package managers problem

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 18:12:56 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: [snip] > 1) Have a root password. SET A FUCKING ROOT PASSWORD. Seriously. Do that, and there are those who will harangue you for it. Sadly, people who argue either way know more than I do about these security matters. And because expert

Re: package managers problem

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:56:36 -0400 gene heskett wrote: > Like firefox, its big and complex, but unlike > gedit has never trashed a file for me, gedit has ruined so many I > finally banned it from my machines, all of them. Vim for the win! (kidding) Paul -- Paul M. Foster Personal Blog: http:/

Re: package managers problem

On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 07:35:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > with a slight difference. So now I have an unk pw set for root, and will > likely have to re-install, again if I reboot. Nonsense. You can set a new root password with "sudo passwd root" any time you wish, even without knowing t

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On 6/20/23 18:13, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 06:01:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: Alright then the question is, is policykit the solution, or do we install it, then spend two weeks and wreck 7 installs configuring it to work? In other words, get to the specifics or find a new

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> I understand not running, say, VLC as root. But Synaptic? It allows you > to search, install and remove packages. Two of those things can't be > done without root permissions. I absolutely run it as root. > The problem is not what the App is expected to do, but the GUI code may "accidentally" do

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>> Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland with root permission. >> Please restart your session without Wayland, or run Synaptic without >> root permission > > Thank you. That's the error I saw Correction: the above is not an error message. It's a guess of the likely cause of the error messa

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Hello Gene, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 06:01:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Alright then the question is, is policykit the solution, or do we > install it, then spend two weeks and wreck 7 installs configuring > it to work? In other words, get to the specifics or find a new horse. I think it's al

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Hi Gene, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 05:44:10PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > Please do not encourage Gene's fetish of running GUI apps as root. […] > Andy, if you aren't behind dd-wrt for your home network, don't pretend to > tell me what I can't do I think your contributions to this list do a gr

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On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 06:01:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Alright then the question is, is policykit the solution, or do we > install it, then spend two weeks and wreck 7 installs configuring > it to work? In other words, get to the specifics or find a new horse. I don't use synaptic, or xfc

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On 6/20/23 17:18, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 20:39:35 + Andy Smith wrote: Please do not encourage Gene's fetish of running GUI apps as root. Plenty of people have been wasting their time trying to t

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On 6/20/23 17:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: Apparently the broader dictum is "never run GUI apps as root". Why? What's special about GUI apps versus those you run in a terminal? The extreme example is a web browser. Your typi

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On 6/20/23 16:40, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:57:30AM -0400, Sarunas Burdulis wrote: On 6/20/23 10:51, gene heskett wrote: Easy: gene@coyote:~/Pictures$ sudo synaptic [sudo] password for gene: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not connect: Conne

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On 6/20/23 16:01, Charles Curley wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 13:37:01 -0400 gene heskett wrote: Gene, this is a long shot. Do you have any KDE or qt components installed? in packagekit: kde search = desktop-base, girl.2-webkit2, libblockdev2, libblockdev-crypto2, libblockdev-fs2, libblock

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gene heskett composed on 2023-06-20 16:08 (UTC-0400): > Felix Miata wrote: >> gene heskett composed on 2023-06-20 10:51 (UTC-0400): Independently of whether you are able to do that without corrupting something, please provide here GUI terminal input/output from 'inxi -GSaz', The

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On 6/20/23 14:35, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:15:19 -0400 gene heskett wrote: [snip] gene@coyote:/usr/local/bin$ pkexec /usr/sbin/synaptic Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused Failed to initialize GTK. Probably y

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Hello, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 20:39:35 + > Andy Smith wrote: > > Please do not encourage Gene's fetish of running GUI apps as root. > > Plenty of people have been wasting their time trying to tell him not > > to do that f

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On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > Apparently the broader dictum is "never run GUI apps as root". Why? > What's special about GUI apps versus those you run in a terminal? The extreme example is a web browser. Your typical web browser probably has thousands

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On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 20:39:35 + Andy Smith wrote: [snip] > > Please do not encourage Gene's fetish of running GUI apps as root. > Plenty of people have been wasting their time trying to tell him not > to do that for years now, and the last thing they need is bystanders > handing him a differ

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