Re: off-site backup

2006-10-16 Thread Russell L. Harris
John O'Hagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tuesday 17 October 2006 04:53, Russell L. Harris wrote: > [...] >> Most flash devices come from the factory with the VFAT file system. I >> have been reformatting them, then making an "ext2" file system. This >> scheme has been working for me, but I w

Re: off-site backup

2006-10-16 Thread John O'Hagan
On Tuesday 17 October 2006 04:53, Russell L. Harris wrote: [...] > Most flash devices come from the factory with the VFAT file system. I > have been reformatting them, then making an "ext2" file system. This > scheme has been working for me, but I would like to receive comments and > recommendati

Re: off-site backup

2006-10-16 Thread John Hasler
Christopher Browne writes: > If you can use some form of "wear levelling," then no. Some chips do wear-leveling in hardware (I don't recall which ones). -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: off-site backup

2006-10-16 Thread Russell L. Harris
Lennart Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Make sure NOT to mount with -o sync on flash drives. Some distributions > mistakenly used -o sync on all removeable media, which was very bad for > performance and also the lifetime of flash disks. Also, make sure not to mount with access time (atime

Re: off-site backup

2006-10-16 Thread dtutty
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 01:57:55PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 01:50:15PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Different types of flash memory have different cycle counts. > > > I don't know how a memory chip gets translated into a 'drive'. Is it > > like a HDD with

Re: off-site backup

2006-10-16 Thread Christopher Browne
On 10/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just a reminder, reply to the list. I'm not sure which list you read it on, so I sent it to both. On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 11:06:22AM -0600, Cedar Cox wrote: > >It seems that USB sticks/flash-drives are far more rugged than anything > >ot

Re: off-site backup

2006-10-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 01:50:15PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does anyone know what the limit is? 10 years at monthy is 120 cycles; > 10 years at weekly is 520 cycles, 10 years at daily is 3,650. Different types of flash memory have different cycle counts. > Does the cycle limit apply to

Re: off-site backup

2006-10-16 Thread Russell L. Harris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 11:06:22AM -0600, Cedar Cox wrote: >> >It seems that USB sticks/flash-drives are far more rugged than anything >> >other than paper. What have you found? >> >> Flash memory does have limited write cycles. This is probably more an >> issue for

Re: off-site backup

2006-10-16 Thread dtutty
Just a reminder, reply to the list. I'm not sure which list you read it on, so I sent it to both. On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 11:06:22AM -0600, Cedar Cox wrote: > >It seems that USB sticks/flash-drives are far more rugged than anything > >other than paper. What have you found? > > Flash memory doe

Re: off-site backup

2006-10-14 Thread Russell L. Harris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'm reviewing/planning for new offsite backup media and am wondering > what people are using now. For economy and longevity, a conventional hard drive is good; but it requires careful handling. Physical impact or even severe vibration can kill it, as can strong exte

Re: off-site backup

2006-10-14 Thread Peter Teunissen
On 14-okt-2006, at 14:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm reviewing/planning for new offsite backup media and am wondering what people are using now. Previous discussions I found on lists.debian.org are a few years old. Remote offsite (e.g. on another computer at another site) is not an option f

Re: off-site backup

2006-10-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/14/06 07:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm reviewing/planning for new offsite backup media and am wondering > what people are using now. Previous discussions I found on > lists.debian.org are a few years old. Remote offsite (e.g. on another >

Re: Off Site Backup: Removable hard-drive racks or external USB hard-drives?

2005-11-30 Thread Andy
Rogério Brito wrote: This (an external PATA drive in a dual USB2/Firewire enclosure) is the solution that I have been using for quite some time now. In fact, I'm only using the Firewire side of it and it works quite well for all my needs. Great, ill go for external USB/Firewire disks then. It

Re: Off Site Backup: Removable hard-drive racks or external USB hard-drives?

2005-11-29 Thread Joseph H. Fry
On Thursday 24 November 2005 9:22 am, Andy wrote: > Hello List, > > I am building a backup server using Debian and BackupPC, and would like > to have an off-site backup rotated weekly. > > I wonder if I might ask the list's opinion about which hardware I should > use to store the off-site backups o

Re: Off Site Backup: Removable hard-drive racks or external USB hard-drives?

2005-11-28 Thread Rogério Brito
On Nov 24 2005, Andy wrote: > Hello List, Hi, Andy. > I wonder if I might ask the list's opinion about which hardware I should > use to store the off-site backups on? (...) > - external hard drives connected through a USB2 or firewire interface This (an external PATA drive in a dual USB2/Firewir