Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Fri 02 Aug 2024 at 19:29:14 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > Lee wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 10:40 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > > > I personally remove mDNS and Bonjour from my machines. mDNS is not the > > > source of truth on my networks. Rather, DNS is the source of truth in > > > my n

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Lee wrote: > uh oh .. > "It would be as well to check whether any functioning print queues > have been automatically installed by cups-browsed prior to a manual > setup. This can be done with > lpstat -a" > > $ lpstat -a > Canon_MG3600_series accepting requests since Sat Aug 3 00:00:28 2024 > H

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-03 Thread Lee
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > > Lee wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 7:29 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > > > I do. If you assign an IP and a DNS name to the IP, all the > > > network printers I am aware of will work just fine. (They don't > > > care about the DNS name, either, but it'

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-03 Thread john doe
On 8/3/24 22:58, Lee wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 2:55 AM Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 5:13 PM Lee wrote: On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 10:40 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: I personally remove mDNS and Bonjour from my machines. mDNS is not the source of truth on my networks. Rather, DNS

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-03 Thread Lee
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 2:55 AM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 5:13 PM Lee wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 10:40 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > > > I personally remove mDNS and Bonjour from my machines. mDNS is not the > > > source of truth on my networks. Rather, DNS is th

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-03 Thread Lee
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 1:41 AM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 10:35 PM Lee wrote: > > > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 7:29 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > Lee wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 10:40 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I personally remove mDNS and Bonjour

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-03 Thread eben
On 8/2/24 14:18, Darac Marjal wrote: Back before IANA's recent explosion in TLDs - when all you really had was .com, .org, .net and a bunch of country-specific TLDs and .gov and .mil? - there was a healthy business in alternative DNS roots (altroots). -- The best answer when anybody asks

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Lee wrote: > On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 7:29 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > > I do. If you assign an IP and a DNS name to the IP, all the > > network printers I am aware of will work just fine. (They don't > > care about the DNS name, either, but it's more convenient if you > > don't want to remember the IP.)

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-03 Thread George at Clug
On Saturday, 03-08-2024 at 15:40 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 10:35 PM Lee wrote: > > > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 7:29 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > Lee wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 10:40 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I personally remove mDNS and Bonj

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-02 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 10:35 PM Lee wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 7:29 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > Lee wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 10:40 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > > > > > I personally remove mDNS and Bonjour from my machines. mDNS is not the > > > > source of truth on my networ

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-02 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 5:13 PM Lee wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 10:40 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > I personally remove mDNS and Bonjour from my machines. mDNS is not the > > source of truth on my networks. Rather, DNS is the source of truth in > > my networks ... > > Do you have any netwo

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-02 Thread Lee
On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 7:29 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > > Lee wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 10:40 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > > > I personally remove mDNS and Bonjour from my machines. mDNS is not the > > > source of truth on my networks. Rather, DNS is the source of truth in > > > my networks

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-02 Thread Dan Ritter
Lee wrote: > On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 10:40 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > I personally remove mDNS and Bonjour from my machines. mDNS is not the > > source of truth on my networks. Rather, DNS is the source of truth in > > my networks ... > > Do you have any network printers? That work without

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-02 Thread Lee
On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 10:40 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > I personally remove mDNS and Bonjour from my machines. mDNS is not the > source of truth on my networks. Rather, DNS is the source of truth in > my networks ... Do you have any network printers? That work without having mDNS enabled? Orig

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 02:37:08PM +1000, George at Clug wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 7:41 PM George at Clug wrote: > > home.arpa > > see https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8375.html > > A fairly straight forward statement in this RFC, just not sure if > I could get used to using .arpa

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 01:06:38PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/2/24 12:09, Andy Smith wrote: > > Gene';s reply to you misses your point so if/when it does happen > > that .den is delegated I'm sure he will miss the point again anyway. > > > Thanks for the no-confidence vote Andy. You d

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-02 Thread Darac Marjal
On 02/08/2024 17:09, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 10:39:46AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 10:29:40 -0400, gene heskett wrote: ISP's dns. I suppose eventually they'll issue .den and I be forced to pick some other 3 letter name for my local domain. https

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-02 Thread David Wright
On Fri 02 Aug 2024 at 14:37:08 (+1000), George at Clug wrote: > > > What is best practice for a local LAN prefix? (I have never found > > > conclusive instruction). > > > > home.arpa > > see https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8375.html > > A fairly straight forward statement in this RFC, just n

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/24 12:09, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 10:39:46AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 10:29:40 -0400, gene heskett wrote: ISP's dns. I suppose eventually they'll issue .den and I be forced to pick some other 3 letter name for my local domain. https://w

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 10:39:46AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 10:29:40 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > ISP's dns. I suppose eventually they'll issue > > .den and I be forced to pick some other 3 letter name for my local domain. > > https://www.hostzealot.com/domains/

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/24 10:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 10:29:40 -0400, gene heskett wrote: ISP's dns. I suppose eventually they'll issue .den and I be forced to pick some other 3 letter name for my local domain. https://www.hostzealot.com/domains/den . I already have a paid for, legall

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 10:29:40 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > ISP's dns. I suppose eventually they'll issue > .den and I be forced to pick some other 3 letter name for my local domain. https://www.hostzealot.com/domains/den

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/1/24 22:07, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 9:45 PM George at Clug wrote: On Friday, 02-08-2024 at 00:48 David Wright wrote: On Thu 01 Aug 2024 at 10:32:27 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] I have no comment on mdns4_minimal because I don't really know what that is. AIU

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-02 Thread Dan Ritter
George at Clug wrote: > Do you know if there is a good place to post Bind9 DNS server configuration > questions to? There's a bind-users list: https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users Do search the archive before posting questions; there's a high likelihood that the answer is already

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-01 Thread George at Clug
Lee, Jeffrey, David, Thank you for your replies. Their is much about DNS and networking that I have yet to learn. My knowledge is usually enough to set up working systems that [hopefully] do not collide with other systems, but not enough to understand further details or to full understand if w

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 02 Aug 2024 at 09:40:44 (+1000), George at Clug wrote: > On Friday, 02-08-2024 at 00:48 David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 01 Aug 2024 at 10:32:27 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 14:30:05 +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > > > > my nsswitch.conf is "hosts: files

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-01 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 9:45 PM George at Clug wrote: > > On Friday, 02-08-2024 at 00:48 David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 01 Aug 2024 at 10:32:27 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > [...] > > > I have no comment on mdns4_minimal because I don't really know what that > > > is. > > > > AIUI mdns4_minim

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-01 Thread Lee
On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 7:41 PM George at Clug wrote: > > On Friday, 02-08-2024 at 00:48 David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 01 Aug 2024 at 10:32:27 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 14:30:05 +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > > > > my nsswitch.conf is "hosts: files mdns4_

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-01 Thread George at Clug
On Friday, 02-08-2024 at 00:48 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 01 Aug 2024 at 10:32:27 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 14:30:05 +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > > > my nsswitch.conf is "hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns" > > > i don't remenber changin

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-01 Thread fxkl47BF
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 14:47:49 +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: >> i have mysql on host1 >> i created a user for mysql so i could have access from 192.168.1.% >> that works fine >> on host2 i use "mysql -u user1 -p --host=host1" and it works >> if

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, Glad we could get to the Y of this X/Y problem relatively quickly! On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 02:47:49PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > i created a user for mysql so i could have access from 192.168.1.% > that works fine > ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'user1'@'localhost'

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 14:47:49 +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > i have mysql on host1 > i created a user for mysql so i could have access from 192.168.1.% > that works fine > on host2 i use "mysql -u user1 -p --host=host1" and it works > if on host1 i use "mysql -u user1 -p --host=host1" i

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-01 Thread fxkl47BF
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 14:30:05 +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: >> my nsswitch.conf is "hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns" >> i don't remenber changing it in the past few decades >> i recently had a situation that made me question th

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-01 Thread David Wright
On Thu 01 Aug 2024 at 10:32:27 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 14:30:05 +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > > my nsswitch.conf is "hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns" > > i don't remenber changing it in the past few decades > > i recently had a situation th

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 14:30:05 +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > my nsswitch.conf is "hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns" > i don't remenber changing it in the past few decades > i recently had a situation that made me question the ordering > my dns server is my primary router