From: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> When there is a standard admin tool, then the packages that do
> have a config script shall doubtless do so ;-)
I expect to be able to announce a tool pretty soon.
Bruce
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Hi,
>>"Lukas" == Lukas Eppler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lukas> When the postconfig went wrong, there should be a standard
Lukas> place/method to rerun the config, which should be as clear as
Lukas> installing.
Lukas> I would like to invoke dpkg --setup on a package to invoke the
Lukas> script,
Hi,
>>"john" == john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
john> Couldn't the postconfig script register the configuration utiliy
john> with an admin tool so that the utility would appear in a menu
john> when the admin tool is run?
When there is a standard admin tool, then the packages that do
On 22 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Yes, I'm fairly familiar with it, having used it to (among other things)
> configure cnews since the early 1980's. However, I was responding to
> someone who claimed that every Debian package includes a config tool.
>
Having read the original post, I was
Hi,
>>"Daniel" == Daniel Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Daniel> So... Does diety attempt to integrate the configuration tools
Daniel> that do come with some of the Debian packages? And what about
Daniel> the question earlier of having the configuration menus that
Daniel> appear during initial
On 21 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Lukas Eppler writes:
> > This is also better for debian, because every package comes with its own
> > config tool.
>
> This is news to me. What config tool comes with cnews? with suck? with
> pppd?
You're right, I should have said it the other way: ever
Hi,
Daniel Martin pointed out exactly what I wanted to say, but in better
words. Thanks.
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Daniel Martin wrote:
> Having read the original post, I was under the impression that this would
> be a desirable state, not necessarily an expression of the current state.
On 23 Oct 199
Manoj Srivastava writes:
> ...as it stands, most packages arrange to invoke the configuration
> utility/script out of the postconfig script anyway; so the config script
> is run by dpkg with no assistace from Deity.
> ...
> Any enhancements to configuring packages, thus, has to be implemented by
>
I wrote:
> What config tool comes with cnews? with suck? with pppd?
Jason Costomiris writes:
> I've got this great one. It's flexible in its operation, and very
> extensible.
> vi.
Yes, I'm fairly familiar with it, having used it to (among other things)
configure cnews since the early 1980's.
On Tue, Oct 21, 1997 at 07:32:20PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: This is news to me. What config tool comes with cnews? with suck? with
: pppd?
I've got this great one. It's flexible in its operation, and very
extensible.
vi.
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Ted Harding writes:
> I'd argue, in the *nix fashion, that a bunch of little, specific,
> WELL-DOCUMENTED admin tools is better -- one for net, smail, sendmail,
> etc...
I agree. The general admin tool would just provide centralized access to
these.
Lukas Eppler writes:
> This is also bette
On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Will Lowe wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Ted Harding wrote:
> ...
> I'd argue, in the *nix fashion, that a bunch of little, specific,
> WELL-DOCUMENTED admin tools is better -- one for net, smail, sendmail,
> etc... A great example is the "tzconfig" script -- it's small,
Will Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'd argue, in the *nix fashion, that a bunch of little, specific,
> WELL-DOCUMENTED admin tools is better -- one for net, smail, sendmail,
> etc... A great example is the "tzconfig" script -- it's small, does it's
> work well, and doesn't involve trem
On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Ted Harding wrote:
> >But perhaps it is just better (and more efficient) to write more and good
> >documentation, instead of more and bad code...
> >
> do even something simple correctly. This is why people call for software
> admin tools: you can hope that the tool has the kn
On 20-Oct-97 Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>
>But perhaps it is just better (and more efficient) to write more and good
>documentation, instead of more and bad code...
>
>Just my 2 cent on this.
>Marcus
This comment is spot-on. Linux is now so complicated (and varied) that, if
you don't know it already
On Mon, Oct 20, 1997 at 08:10:09AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> George Bonser writes:
> > I, for one, would much rather have some sort of a tool so I can get back
> > to enjoying my system and not spend as much time configuring it.
>
> So would I. Can we get a project going to create one?
A
George Bonser writes:
> I, for one, would much rather have some sort of a tool so I can get back
> to enjoying my system and not spend as much time configuring it.
So would I. Can we get a project going to create one?
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Elmwood, WI
At 09:19 PM 10/19/1997 -0700, George Bonser wrote:
>
>On 20-Oct-97 A. M. Varon wrote:
>>
>>Example, to change the hostname, you could do that with lisa. But the
>>truth is, you could easily edit /etc/HOSTNAME and it would give you the
>>same effect. Please note that this apply not only to linux but
On 20-Oct-97 A. M. Varon wrote:
>
>Example, to change the hostname, you could do that with lisa. But the
>truth is, you could easily edit /etc/HOSTNAME and it would give you the
>same effect. Please note that this apply not only to linux but other
>variants of unix as well. So knowing this is a ve
At 10:49 PM 19/10/97 -0400, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
>On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Stuart Krivis wrote:
>
>> For example, I can get a new Caldera install up and on the net within
>> minutes. Debian was not so accommodating. No modem. No modemtool app. No
>> LISA. Ok, MAKEDEV cua1. Dial... connected... ping
> > For example, I can get a new Caldera install up and on the net within
> > minutes. Debian was not so accommodating. No modem. No modemtool app. No
> > LISA. Ok, MAKEDEV cua1. Dial... connected... ping junior.apk.net ---
> > network unreachable
>
> cua1 is bad, don't use it. Not good with fi
On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Stuart Krivis wrote:
> For example, I can get a new Caldera install up and on the net within
> minutes. Debian was not so accommodating. No modem. No modemtool app. No
> LISA. Ok, MAKEDEV cua1. Dial... connected... ping junior.apk.net ---
> network unreachable
Hi Stuart,
I
On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Stuart Krivis wrote:
> For example, I can get a new Caldera install up and on the net within
> minutes. Debian was not so accommodating. No modem. No modemtool app. No
> LISA. Ok, MAKEDEV cua1. Dial... connected... ping junior.apk.net ---
> network unreachable
cua1 is bad,
At 04:37 PM 10/19/1997 -0700, George Bonser wrote:
>>
>>There was an effort to outline a configuration (administration) tool on
>>debian-admintool, but the discussion was very hot and then cooled down to
>>silence.
>>
>>However, the goal was much higher than expanding the install menu.
>>
>
>Still,
>
>There was an effort to outline a configuration (administration) tool on
>debian-admintool, but the discussion was very hot and then cooled down to
>silence.
>
>However, the goal was much higher than expanding the install menu.
>
>Marcus
>
>--
>"Rhubarb is no Egyptian god."
>Marcus Brinkmann
>[E
On Sun, Oct 19, 1997 at 10:04:32AM -0700, George Bonser wrote:
>
> On 19-Oct-97 Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> >> Now for the tough part. :-)
> >>
> >> I want to be able to use some of the things I've grown used to with
> >> Caldera. In particular, LISA (Linux Installation and System Adminstration)
>
On 19-Oct-97 Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>> Now for the tough part. :-)
>>
>> I want to be able to use some of the things I've grown used to with
>> Caldera. In particular, LISA (Linux Installation and System Adminstration)
>> is a life-saver. It allows me to easily change hardware and network
>> set
On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Stuart Krivis wrote:
[ Thinking of a Caldera -> Debian switch ]
> FreeBSD has an excellent package management system and it would be right up
> my alley. The problem is that it's BSD and that's not the direction I want
> to go in. So, I'm looking at the debian distribution. I'
Hello Stuart!
On Sun, Oct 19, 1997 at 08:11:33AM -0400, Stuart Krivis wrote:
> I'm currently thinking about making the move to debian.
Ok, let's talk about debian :)
> I've been using Caldera Network Desktop, and now Caldera Open Linux, for a
> while now. It has shielded me from many of the nit
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