On Monday 12 February 2018 17:29:58 David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 12 Feb 2018 at 15:32:50 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 12 February 2018 13:44:04 Brian wrote:
> > > On Mon 12 Feb 2018 at 08:17:23 +0100, deloptes wrote:
> > > > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > >> TDE has support channels. Pe
On Mon 12 Feb 2018 at 15:32:50 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 12 February 2018 13:44:04 Brian wrote:
>
> > On Mon 12 Feb 2018 at 08:17:23 +0100, deloptes wrote:
> > > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > >> TDE has support channels. People there are far more likely to be
> > > >> familiar with whee
On Monday 12 February 2018 16:29:43 deloptes wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > usbmount has been disabled. That would I think, have fixed the
> > original problem that started all this hoohaw.
> >
> > My apologies to the list in that case.
>
> With full respect, Gene, we are glad it worked for you
Gene Heskett wrote:
> I, based on the previous post, scanned thru the trinity control center,
> and found the automount unchecked, but mount as user is checked. That
> seems like its handy, so I left it checked.
Yes, indeed, I found it too
automount is unchecked
mount as user is checked
+ learn
Gene Heskett wrote:
> usbmount has been disabled. That would I think, have fixed the original
> problem that started all this hoohaw.
>
> My apologies to the list in that case.
With full respect, Gene, we are glad it worked for you once again!
regards
On Monday 12 February 2018 15:16:47 Brian wrote:
> On Mon 12 Feb 2018 at 14:14:56 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > I have restored everything that I played with in the udev dept. And
> > re-enabled usbmount in its config, exactly as installed originally.
>
> Mmm.
>
> > I have unmounted both visible
On Monday 12 February 2018 14:00:42 deloptes wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> >> I don't know what you mean, but I read and post to both lists
> >> (user/devel)
> >
> > January was a busy time on the list.
>
> I didn't have that impression if you mean TDE. It is a small community
> (at least the posting pa
On Monday 12 February 2018 13:44:04 Brian wrote:
> On Mon 12 Feb 2018 at 08:17:23 +0100, deloptes wrote:
> > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >> TDE has support channels. People there are far more likely to be
> > >> familiar with wheezy (unsupported on Debian) and their own
> > >> packages (not in Debian)
On Mon 12 Feb 2018 at 14:14:56 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> I have restored everything that I played with in the udev dept. And
> re-enabled usbmount in its config, exactly as installed originally.
Mmm.
>
> I have unmounted both visible partitions of this sd card, and they have
> not remounte
On Monday 12 February 2018 13:36:43 deloptes wrote:
> Curt wrote:
> > On 2018-02-11, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> On Sunday 11 February 2018 18:19:00 Brian wrote:
> >>> On Sun 11 Feb 2018 at 17:07:03 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>> > On Sunday 11 February 2018 15:31:13 Brian wrote:
> >>> > > linuxcn
On Mon 12 Feb 2018 at 20:00:42 +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Brian wrote:
>
> >> I don't know what you mean, but I read and post to both lists
> >> (user/devel)
> >
> > January was a busy time on the list.
> >
> I didn't have that impression if you mean TDE. It is a small community (at
> least the p
On Monday 12 February 2018 02:17:23 deloptes wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> TDE has support channels. People there are far more likely to be
> >> familiar with wheezy (unsupported on Debian) and their own packages
> >> (not in Debian) and any automounting issues.
>
> there is no automount - Gen
Brian wrote:
>> I don't know what you mean, but I read and post to both lists
>> (user/devel)
>
> January was a busy time on the list.
>
I didn't have that impression if you mean TDE. It is a small community (at
least the posting part of it).
>> Unfortunately I upgraded long time ago from jess
On Mon 12 Feb 2018 at 08:17:23 +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> >> TDE has support channels. People there are far more likely to be
> >> familiar with wheezy (unsupported on Debian) and their own packages
> >> (not in Debian) and any automounting issues.
> >
>
> there is no auto
Curt wrote:
> On 2018-02-11, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Sunday 11 February 2018 18:19:00 Brian wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun 11 Feb 2018 at 17:07:03 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> > On Sunday 11 February 2018 15:31:13 Brian wrote:
>>> > > linuxcnc is an Xfce based system and that DE does the
>>> > > automo
On Sun 11 Feb 2018 at 17:07:03 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 11 February 2018 15:31:13 Brian wrote:
> > On Sun 11 Feb 2018 at 11:08:23 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Sunday 11 February 2018 10:19:16 David Wright wrote:
> > > > […] Otherwise, look to your DE configuration. […]
> >
On 2018-02-11, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 11 February 2018 18:19:00 Brian wrote:
>
>> On Sun 11 Feb 2018 at 17:07:03 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> > On Sunday 11 February 2018 15:31:13 Brian wrote:
>> > > linuxcnc is an Xfce based system and that DE does the
>> > > automounting. It is not usb
Gene Heskett wrote:
>> TDE has support channels. People there are far more likely to be
>> familiar with wheezy (unsupported on Debian) and their own packages
>> (not in Debian) and any automounting issues.
>
there is no automount - Gene might remove usbmount package and see if this
helps. The p
On Sunday 11 February 2018 18:19:00 Brian wrote:
> On Sun 11 Feb 2018 at 17:07:03 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 11 February 2018 15:31:13 Brian wrote:
> > > linuxcnc is an Xfce based system and that DE does the
> > > automounting. It is not usbmount or 60-persistent-storage.rules.
> > >
On Sun 11 Feb 2018 at 17:07:03 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 11 February 2018 15:31:13 Brian wrote:
>
> > linuxcnc is an Xfce based system and that DE does the automounting. It
> > is not usbmount or 60-persistent-storage.rules. I'm fairly sure there
> > is a way of turning it off but ha
On Sunday 11 February 2018 15:31:13 Brian wrote:
> On Sun 11 Feb 2018 at 11:08:23 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 11 February 2018 10:19:16 David Wright wrote:
> > > On Sun 11 Feb 2018 at 00:01:26 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > I don't believe usbmount did this one,
> > > > 60-persi
On Sunday 11 February 2018 12:35:54 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > The real problem is of coarse that there has not ever been 2
> > identical sd cards made, so a dd image to the end of the card A,
> > will not ever install that image on another supposedly identical
> > car
On Sun 11 Feb 2018 at 11:08:23 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 11 February 2018 10:19:16 David Wright wrote:
[…]
> > On Sun 11 Feb 2018 at 00:01:26 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > I don't believe usbmount did this one, 60-persistent-storage.rule I
> > > think did this one as I only kill
On Sun 11 Feb 2018 at 11:08:23 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 11 February 2018 10:19:16 David Wright wrote:
>
> > On Sun 11 Feb 2018 at 00:01:26 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > I don't believe usbmount did this one, 60-persistent-storage.rule I
> > > think did this one as I only kill s
Hi,
Gene Heskett wrote:
> The real problem is of coarse that there has not ever been 2 identical sd
> cards made, so a dd image to the end of the card A, will not ever
> install that image on another supposedly identical card B or C, they are
> NOT the same size except in the salespersons mind.
On Sunday 11 February 2018 10:19:16 David Wright wrote:
> On Sun 11 Feb 2018 at 00:01:26 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 10 February 2018 23:34:12 David Wright wrote:
> > > On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 22:06:05 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 10 February 2018 18:04:30 Brian
On Sun 11 Feb 2018 at 00:01:26 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 10 February 2018 23:34:12 David Wright wrote:
>
> > On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 22:06:05 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Saturday 10 February 2018 18:04:30 Brian wrote:
> > > > On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 16:09:00 -0500, Gene Hesk
On Sunday 11 February 2018 06:23:35 deloptes wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > /etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf. And it has exactly the switch I was
> > looking for. So ATM its turned off. But damn! I just now plugged in
> > the cell phone and the icon popped up in about a second. But I guess
> > thats
Gene Heskett wrote:
> I don't believe usbmount did this one, 60-persistent-storage.rule I think
> did this one as I only kill sdd, and the phone, if the card reader (sdd)
> is plugged in would have made the phone be sdf.
I don't think you need usbmount at all, but I am not at 100% sure for wheezy
Gene Heskett wrote:
> /etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf. And it has exactly the switch I was looking
> for. So ATM its turned off. But damn! I just now plugged in the cell
> phone and the icon popped up in about a second. But I guess thats
> because I didn't block it for sdf.
>
The icon itself is not
On Saturday 10 February 2018 23:34:12 David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 22:06:05 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 10 February 2018 18:04:30 Brian wrote:
> > > On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 16:09:00 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 10 February 2018 15:27:09 David Wright
On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 22:06:05 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 10 February 2018 18:04:30 Brian wrote:
>
> > On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 16:09:00 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Saturday 10 February 2018 15:27:09 David Wright wrote:
> > > > On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 15:08:58 (-0500), Gene Hesk
On Saturday 10 February 2018 18:04:30 Brian wrote:
> On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 16:09:00 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 10 February 2018 15:27:09 David Wright wrote:
> > > On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 15:08:58 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 10 February 2018 11:57:38 David Wright
On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 16:09:00 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 10 February 2018 15:27:09 David Wright wrote:
>
> > On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 15:08:58 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Saturday 10 February 2018 11:57:38 David Wright wrote:
> > > > On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 09:10:40 (-0500), G
On Saturday 10 February 2018 15:27:09 David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 15:08:58 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 10 February 2018 11:57:38 David Wright wrote:
> > > On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 09:10:40 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > And despite my emasculation of udev, disab
On Saturday 10 February 2018 15:12:21 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i proposed (poking with a long stick in the fog):
> > > dd if=/dev/sdd bs=512 skip=16500703 count=66 \
> > > of=rock-img-shrunk.img seek=16500703
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Which was an instant return claiming 66 blocks
On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 15:08:58 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 10 February 2018 11:57:38 David Wright wrote:
>
> > Package: usbmount
> >
> > Description-en: automatically mount and unmount USB mass storage
> > devices
> >
> > This package automatically mounts USB mass storage devices
On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 15:08:58 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 10 February 2018 11:57:38 David Wright wrote:
>
> > On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 09:10:40 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > And despite my emasculation of udev, disabling sdd, according to the
> > > syslog, usbmount is still auto
Hi,
i proposed (poking with a long stick in the fog):
> > dd if=/dev/sdd bs=512 skip=16500703 count=66 \
> > of=rock-img-shrunk.img seek=16500703
Gene Heskett wrote:
> Which was an instant return claiming 66 blocks had been copied.
Yeah. Fast. But sufficient only if i did not miscalculate
On Saturday 10 February 2018 11:57:38 David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 09:10:40 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > And despite my emasculation of udev, disabling sdd, according to the
> > syslog, usbmount is still auto mounting these cards, all 3 of them.
> > So if I plan on working with
On Saturday 10 February 2018 10:53:25 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> and again a miscalculation by differing block sizes.
>
> The adventurous proposal would be useless because working somewhere
> in the still undamaged part of the image file.
> skip= and seek= must be the numbers for blocks of 51
On Sat 10 Feb 2018 at 09:10:40 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> And despite my emasculation of udev, disabling sdd, according to the
> syslog, usbmount is still auto mounting these cards, all 3 of them. So
> if I plan on working with these images on this machine with gparted, I
> imagine I had be
Hi,
and again a miscalculation by differing block sizes.
The adventurous proposal would be useless because working somewhere
in the still undamaged part of the image file.
skip= and seek= must be the numbers for blocks of 512 bytes rather than
of 64 KiB.
So this proposal should have been
dd i
Hi,
Gene Heskett wrote:
> Warning! Secondary partition table overlaps the last partition by
> 33 blocks!
Sorry, my mistake. I should have staid with my first rough estimation
of 8 GiB = 131072 * 64 KiB.
Actually i missed the safe size by just one chunk of 64 KiB.
128913 would have been enough. B
On Saturday 10 February 2018 03:57:57 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i wrote:
> > > your count=122070 was too small. It should have been 128912.
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > the backup GPT table, if it exists, is actually at the end
> > of the disk, after another 50Gb of of 's. But how do I "f
On Saturday 10 February 2018 02:55:08 deloptes wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
> > Well, as I explained, I don't use a DE so I wouldn't have a clue.
> > There presumably are people here who use TDE. I see it mentioned
> > a lot.
>
> I use the 14.1 - DEV version, but also in previous one I have never
Hi,
i wrote:
> > your count=122070 was too small. It should have been 128912.
Gene Heskett wrote:
> the backup GPT table, if it exists, is actually at the end
> of the disk, after another 50Gb of of 's. But how do I "fix" the
> file?
Partition editors suitable for GPT are supposed to be a
David Wright wrote:
> Well, as I explained, I don't use a DE so I wouldn't have a clue.
> There presumably are people here who use TDE. I see it mentioned
> a lot.
I use the 14.1 - DEV version, but also in previous one I have never
experienced automounting.
Could be that Gene installed automount
On Friday 09 February 2018 14:37:16 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> your count=122070 was too small. It should have been 128912. See
> below.
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > gene@coyote:~/rock64.imgs$ /sbin/gdisk -l rock-img-shrunk.img
> > [...]
> > Caution: invalid backup GPT header, but valid main h
On Friday 09 February 2018 14:28:15 Brian wrote:
> On Fri 09 Feb 2018 at 10:52:08 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > On Fri, 09 Feb 2018, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > I killed udev for /dev/sdd, gparted works now. But I really need a
> > > quicker way than editing a udev rule. I wonder if I could make
>
On Friday 09 February 2018 14:11:27 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 09 February 2018 13:56:35 David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 09 Feb 2018 at 12:34:05 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Friday 09 February 2018 11:50:46 David Wright wrote:
> > > > On Fri 09 Feb 2018 at 04:20:51 (-0500), Gene Heske
On Fri 09 Feb 2018 at 14:11:27 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 09 February 2018 13:56:35 David Wright wrote:
>
> > On Fri 09 Feb 2018 at 12:34:05 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Friday 09 February 2018 11:50:46 David Wright wrote:
> > > > On Fri 09 Feb 2018 at 04:20:51 (-0500), Gene
Hi,
your count=122070 was too small. It should have been 128912. See below.
Gene Heskett wrote:
> gene@coyote:~/rock64.imgs$ /sbin/gdisk -l rock-img-shrunk.img
> [...]
> Caution: invalid backup GPT header, but valid main header; regenerating
> backup header from main header.
You cut off ~ 56 GB
On Fri 09 Feb 2018 at 10:52:08 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Feb 2018, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > I killed udev for /dev/sdd, gparted works now. But I really need a
> > quicker way than editing a udev rule. I wonder if I could make udev
> > aware that gparted was running.
>
> udev doesn't
On Friday 09 February 2018 13:56:35 David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 09 Feb 2018 at 12:34:05 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 09 February 2018 11:50:46 David Wright wrote:
> > > On Fri 09 Feb 2018 at 04:20:51 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Friday 09 February 2018 04:11:42 Thomas Sch
On Friday 09 February 2018 13:13:42 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > When did fdisk learn about GPT part tables?
>
> Dunno. It recognizes GPT by type "ee" of the "Protective MBR" entry in
>
> the partition table of the MBR:
> > Device Boot Start En
On Fri 09 Feb 2018 at 12:34:05 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 09 February 2018 11:50:46 David Wright wrote:
>
> > On Fri 09 Feb 2018 at 04:20:51 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Friday 09 February 2018 04:11:42 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Gene Heskett wrote:
>
On Fri, 09 Feb 2018, Gene Heskett wrote:
> I killed udev for /dev/sdd, gparted works now. But I really need a
> quicker way than editing a udev rule. I wonder if I could make udev
> aware that gparted was running.
udev doesn't automount by default;[1] it's likely just exposing the fact
that a devi
Hi,
correcting myself:
> > /dev/sdd 1 32768 125042687625049607 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
> This is probably an unpartitioned "disk" with MS-Windows filesystem.
The "1" probably is the partition number. I mistook it for the boot flag.
So the stick is partitioned with one partition.
H
Hi,
Gene Heskett wrote:
> When did fdisk learn about GPT part tables?
Dunno. It recognizes GPT by type "ee" of the "Protective MBR" entry in
the partition table of the MBR:
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> rock-img-shrunk.img 1 1 125171
On Friday 09 February 2018 11:50:46 David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 09 Feb 2018 at 04:20:51 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 09 February 2018 04:11:42 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > That is not the problem, something is automounting the partition
> >
On Friday 09 February 2018 11:01:38 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > # skip rules for inappropriate block devices
> > KERNEL=="fd*|mtd*|nbd*|gnbd*|btibm*|dm-*|md*|sdd",
> > GOTO="persistent_storage_end"
>
> That's a neighbor of where i once stopped to experiment.
> So now:
>
> KERNEL=="fd*|mtd*|n
On Fri 09 Feb 2018 at 04:20:51 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 09 February 2018 04:11:42 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > That is not the problem, something is automounting the partition as
> > > soon as gparted unmounts the SOB, so by the time you start t
Hi,
> # skip rules for inappropriate block devices
> KERNEL=="fd*|mtd*|nbd*|gnbd*|btibm*|dm-*|md*|sdd",
> GOTO="persistent_storage_end"
That's a neighbor of where i once stopped to experiment.
So now:
KERNEL=="fd*|mtd*|nbd*|gnbd*|btibm*|dm-*|md*|zram*|mmcblk[0-9]*rpmb|sr4",
GOTO="persistent_st
On Friday 09 February 2018 05:17:35 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Got the sonofabitch, I added sdd to the ignore line
> > in /lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules.
>
> What exactly did you do ?
> ("ignore line" does not give me insight when looking at the file.)
>
> > I wonder if I cou
Hi,
> Got the sonofabitch, I added sdd to the ignore line
> in /lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules.
What exactly did you do ?
("ignore line" does not give me insight when looking at the file.)
> I wonder if I could make udev
> aware that gparted was running. That would be ideal.
I
On Friday 09 February 2018 04:11:42 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > That is not the problem, something is automounting the partition as
> > soon as gparted unmounts the SOB, so by the time you start the
> > resize, its mounted again and gparted is locked out.
>
> If explici
On Friday 09 February 2018 03:52:05 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 09 February 2018 03:05:23 deloptes wrote:
> > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Trying to make a backup image of a 64GB bootable sdcard. Th os say
> > > its 59.b GB when it mounts the original, but pull copy to a file
> > > and its nearly
Hi,
Gene Heskett wrote:
> That is not the problem, something is automounting the partition as soon
> as gparted unmounts the SOB, so by the time you start the resize, its
> mounted again and gparted is locked out.
If explicit unmounting does not help, and if manual execution of the
gparted help
On Friday 09 February 2018 03:33:38 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Th os say its 59.b GB when it mounts the original
> > [...]
> > gene@coyote:~/rock64.imgs$ dd of=/dev/sdd bs=64k
> > if=working-rock64.img dd: writing `/dev/sdd': No space left on
> > device
> > 976897+0 re
On Friday 09 February 2018 03:05:23 deloptes wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Trying to make a backup image of a 64GB bootable sdcard. Th os say
> > its 59.b GB when it mounts the original, but pull copy to a file and
> > its nearly a megabyte bigger than 64gigs. So obviously the file is
> > bigg
Hi,
Gene Heskett wrote:
> Th os say its 59.b GB when it mounts the original
> [...]
> gene@coyote:~/rock64.imgs$ dd of=/dev/sdd bs=64k if=working-rock64.img
> dd: writing `/dev/sdd': No space left on device
> 976897+0 records in
> 976896+0 records out
That's the usual confusion between ISO GB (=
Gene Heskett wrote:
> Trying to make a backup image of a 64GB bootable sdcard. Th os say its
> 59.b GB when it mounts the original, but pull copy to a file and its
> nearly a megabyte bigger than 64gigs. So obviously the file is bigger
> than a brand new unformatted disk.
>
Hi Gene, you should
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