Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 01:29:36AM -0400, Jason Boxman wrote: > I have a 486 firewall myself. My connectivity on other machines more or less > stops when I do things like run dpkg or the gShield firewall script > (iptables) loads on it. Is this normal, or is it just my particular 486 33? dpkg

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable

2001-09-09 Thread Ross Burton
On Sat, 2001-09-08 at 15:59, dman wrote: > Add 'devfs=mount' to your kernel command line and try again. Use the > old-dev name for the root= argument though. I'm getting there... devfsd starts and hangs on "Creating extra device nodes...". Looking at the script: for i in `sed -e '/^#/d' $DEVFI

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-09 Thread dman
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 12:46:36AM -0400, Brian Nelson wrote: | Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > Brian Nelson wrote: [...] | > I have not found any reason to prefer make-kpkg over "make bzImage" and | > manually installing the kernel image. Just to be different : | 1. You won't forg

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-09 Thread dman
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 01:29:36AM -0400, Jason Boxman wrote: | On Sunday 09 September 2001 01:07 am, Nathan E Norman wrote: | > On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 09:42:34PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: | > > Nathan E Norman wrote: | | > | > I maintain (more or less) four boxes ... a celeron (my home machine

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable

2001-09-09 Thread Ross Burton
On Sat, 2001-09-08 at 15:59, dman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 10:05:33AM +0100, Ross Burton wrote: > | Yes, it's me again. > | > | Once this is sorted I'll stop bugging you, I promise! > | > | Does the kernel-image for 2.4.x from unstable come with devfsd on? I >

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-09 Thread der.hans
Am 08. Sep, 2001 schwäzte Craig Dickson so: > I have not found any reason to prefer make-kpkg over "make bzImage" and > manually installing the kernel image. I've adminned many boxen with almost the same configuration. Also, my firewall has no developer tools. kpkg actually doesn't help me much t

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-09 Thread Craig Dickson
Brian Nelson wrote: > Yeah, those mysterious Debian developers do strange things to the > source. Whatever could it be? Now you're just being snide, which doesn't exactly contribute to the civility factor of the discussion. Fortunately, I have better sense than to respond in kind. The point is,

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-09 Thread Craig Dickson
Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 09:42:34PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: > > Nathan E Norman wrote: > > > > > Once you manage more than one machine, you will find reasons to prefer > > > kernel-package :) > > > > You mean, once I manage more than one machine that will run exactly

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-09 Thread Jason Boxman
On Sunday 09 September 2001 01:07 am, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 09:42:34PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: > > Nathan E Norman wrote: > > I maintain (more or less) four boxes ... a celeron (my home machine), > an athlon (my work desktop), a 486 (my firewall), and a p90 (a server

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-09 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 09:42:34PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: > Nathan E Norman wrote: > > > Once you manage more than one machine, you will find reasons to prefer > > kernel-package :) > > You mean, once I manage more than one machine that will run exactly the > same kernel. Right now, I have t

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-08 Thread Brian Nelson
Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Brian Nelson wrote: > > > Why not just download the kernel-source package? Similar to the > > vanilla ones, but usually with a few patches applied. > > That's exactly why not. I'd rather have a vanilla Linus kernel source > tree to which I can apply p

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-08 Thread Craig Dickson
Nathan E Norman wrote: > Once you manage more than one machine, you will find reasons to prefer > kernel-package :) You mean, once I manage more than one machine that will run exactly the same kernel. Right now, I have two Debian boxes, but one is a P3 running Sid (kernel 2.4.9) and the other is

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-08 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 01:55:41PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: > I have not found any reason to prefer make-kpkg over "make bzImage" and Once you manage more than one machine, you will find reasons to prefer kernel-package :) -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Microm

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-08 Thread Jason Boxman
On Saturday 08 September 2001 04:55 pm, Craig Dickson wrote: > Brian Nelson wrote: > > > The package > > installs the bzip2'ed source in /usr/src. Just tar -jxf it, configure > > with 'make menuconfig' or whatever, and then build a custom > > kernel-image package with 'make-kpkg kernel_image'. >

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-08 Thread Gary L. Dolan
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 01:55:41PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: > Brian Nelson wrote: > > > Why not just download the kernel-source package? Similar to the > > vanilla ones, but usually with a few patches applied. > > That's exactly why not. I'd rather have a vanilla Linus kernel source > tree to

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-08 Thread Craig Dickson
Brian Nelson wrote: > Why not just download the kernel-source package? Similar to the > vanilla ones, but usually with a few patches applied. That's exactly why not. I'd rather have a vanilla Linus kernel source tree to which I can apply patches without worrying about whether they'll conflict wi

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-08 Thread Brian Nelson
John Toon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Saturday 08 September 2001 10:05 am, Ross Burton wrote: > > Personally I would always recommend downloading yourself a vanilla 2.4.x > kernel tarball from http://www.kernel.org. With kernels, this is one of the > few areas where I think it is better to

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable

2001-09-08 Thread dman
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 10:05:33AM +0100, Ross Burton wrote: | Yes, it's me again. | | Once this is sorted I'll stop bugging you, I promise! | | Does the kernel-image for 2.4.x from unstable come with devfsd on? I ^ devfsd and devfs

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-08 Thread John Toon
On Saturday 08 September 2001 10:05 am, Ross Burton wrote: > Yes, it's me again. > > Once this is sorted I'll stop bugging you, I promise! > > Does the kernel-image for 2.4.x from unstable come with devfsd on? I > tried mounting a zip disk (external ppa) and the device was > /dev/scsi/0/... not /