Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 09:44:48AM +0200, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:28:44PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote: > > I would venture to say that only 'apt-get source' is useful. 'apt-get > > install' doesn't offer anything 'aptitude install' offers. In fact, if > > you use aptitude, yo

Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-12 Thread Katipo
Katipo wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Once you start using aptitude, it is depreciated to use apt-get for installing packages since you lose the benefits of aptitude tracking automatic dependencies. What's pgrn? It's prgn. Sorry. I meant to include

Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-12 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 12:33:54PM -0500, Travis Crump wrote: > Brian Nelson wrote: > > > >I would venture to say that only 'apt-get source' is useful. > > Don't forget 'apt-get build-dep' and 'apt-get moo'... Try all this :) $ aptitude moo $ aptitude -v moo $ aptitude -vv moo $ aptitude -vvv

Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Katipo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Paul Johnson wrote: > >>Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >> >>>Once you start using aptitude, it is depreciated to use >>>apt-get for installing packages since you lose the >>>benefits of aptitude tracking automatic dependencies. >>> >>> >> >>What's

Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-12 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 12:52:24AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Once you start using aptitude, it is depreciated to use > > apt-get for installing packages since you lose the > > benefits of aptitude tracking automatic dependencies. > > What's pgrn? T

Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-12 Thread Katipo
Paul Johnson wrote: Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Once you start using aptitude, it is depreciated to use apt-get for installing packages since you lose the benefits of aptitude tracking automatic dependencies. What's pgrn? It's prgn. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Once you start using aptitude, it is depreciated to use > apt-get for installing packages since you lose the > benefits of aptitude tracking automatic dependencies. What's pgrn? -- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signatur

Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-12 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:28:44PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote: > Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 07:35:49PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 08:21:11PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > >> > On Fri, 02 Apr 2004, Dan Jacobson wrote: > >> > >

Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-04 Thread Johann Koenig
> On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 01:56:44PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > . no way to install and remove packages simultaneously (you > > must run apt-get at least twice) Not true: apt-get remove --purge program1 program2+ will purge program1 and install program2 I believe t

Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 01:56:44PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 12:52:44PM +0200, Martin Kuball wrote: > | Would you like to explain this a little bit? What exactly is the > | advantage of using a front end over plain apt-get. At least I did not > | encounter any

Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-03 Thread dircha
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: I'm sure this list isn't exhaustive, but it gives an idea why it is recommended to use a program intended for end-user (admin) use such as aptitude instead of a development proof-of-concept program (which is what 'apt-get' and 'apt-cache' are). And to anyone who hasn't

Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-03 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 12:52:44PM +0200, Martin Kuball wrote: | Am Friday 02 April 2004 22:46 schrieb Osamu Aoki: | > | > Don't use apt-get for serious administration; | > apt-get install is useful, but for the rest you should use | > real front-ends such as dselect and | > aptitude. | | Would y

Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-03 Thread Travis Crump
Brian Nelson wrote: I would venture to say that only 'apt-get source' is useful. Don't forget 'apt-get build-dep' and 'apt-get moo'... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-03 Thread Martin Kuball
Am Friday 02 April 2004 22:46 schrieb Osamu Aoki: > > Don't use apt-get for serious administration; > apt-get install is useful, but for the rest you should use > real front-ends such as dselect and > aptitude. Would you like to explain this a little bit? What exactly is the advantage of using a

Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-02 Thread Brian Nelson
Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 07:35:49PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 08:21:11PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: >> > On Fri, 02 Apr 2004, Dan Jacobson wrote: >> > > Anyway, it seems no tool keeps users alert that some of their >> > > packa

Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-02 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 07:35:49PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 08:21:11PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > On Fri, 02 Apr 2004, Dan Jacobson wrote: > > > Anyway, it seems no tool keeps users alert that some of their > > > packages are "no longer". Perhaps it should appear

Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 08:21:11PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Fri, 02 Apr 2004, Dan Jacobson wrote: > > Anyway, it seems no tool keeps users alert that some of their > > packages are "no longer". Perhaps it should appear when one does > > dist-upgrades, or maybe a deb orphan-like tool that

Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian

2004-04-02 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004, Dan Jacobson wrote: > Anyway, it seems no tool keeps users alert that some of their packages > are "no longer". Perhaps it should appear when one does > dist-upgrades, or maybe a deb orphan-like tool that one could run from crontab. You mean like dselect? --- Obsolete a