Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Ma, 18 nov 14, 23:12:48, Miles Fidelman wrote:
I still don't think I'm seeing your point. Mail servers, and servers in
general need to be initialized, usually rely on the o/s init system, and
generally come packaged with a collection of init and utility scripts. To
dat
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 19/11/14 15:12, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 23:14, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote:
I left out sendmail, but I just che
On Ma, 18 nov 14, 23:12:48, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
> I still don't think I'm seeing your point. Mail servers, and servers in
> general need to be initialized, usually rely on the o/s init system, and
> generally come packaged with a collection of init and utility scripts. To
> date, every singl
Le mardi, 18 novembre 2014, 22.10:22 Miles Fidelman a écrit :
> Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > Let's take the inverse view: which of these use the upstream
> > sysvinit scripts directly ? The answer, as demonstrated below, is:
> > none.
>
> Out of curiosity, how are you comparing these to the ini
On 19/11/14 15:12, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 18/11/14 23:14, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>> Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>
> Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>> I left out sendmail, but I ju
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 23:14, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote:
I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and guess
what, no systemd service file in upstream).
xy?
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
Le dimanche, 16 novembre 2014, 11.50:25 Miles Fidelman a écrit :
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
scripts.
L
On 18/11/14 23:14, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>> Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and guess
> what, no systemd service file in upstream).
xy?
Hallo,
* Miles Fidelman [Sun, Nov 16 2014, 02:41:14PM]:
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >On Du, 16 nov 14, 11:50:25, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> >>So... with systemd, one has to:
> >>- rely on packagers to generate systemd service files, and/or,
> >>- rely on systemd's support for sysvinit scripts, which
> >
Le dimanche, 16 novembre 2014, 11.50:25 Miles Fidelman a écrit :
> Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
> occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
> applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
> scripts.
Let's take the inverse v
Show us where Debian is using the file shipped by upstream.
dpkg -l | grep xymon
ii xymon-client 4.3.17-4
amd64client for the Xymon network monitor
17:25:35 weezer:~/src/xymon-4.3.17$ diff /etc/init.d/xymon-client
debian/xymon-
Am 18.11.2014 um 10:07 schrieb Ludovic Meyer :
>
> Show us where Debian is using the file shipped by upstream.
Maybe drbd?
>
> Then, tell me, is Debian wrong to not use them, or
> are the script shipped upstream deficient ?
>
> In fact, you show "they are shipping initscript",
> but tell m
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 08:54:16PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given all the talk about not being ab
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please don't top post - it's not hard to move the mouse.
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote:
I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and guess
what, no systemd service file in upstream).
xy?
Ummm...
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 08:54:16PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Ludovic Meyer wrote:
> >On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> >>Ludovic Meyer wrote:
> >>>On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> >Given all the talk about not being able to i
On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please don't top post - it's not hard to move the mouse.
>
> Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>> I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and guess
>>> what, no systemd service file in upstream).
>> xy?
> Ummm those
Ummm those are NOT systemd scripts shipped by the upstream sendmail
developers. They ship sysvinit scripts, period. Which is my point.
Major upstream application developers do not seem to be jumping on
systemd. If anything, what I'm seeing are "oh sh&t, I guess we should
develop systemd
On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and
> guess what, no systemd service file in upstream).
xy?
Did you try Google?
https://www.google.com/search?q=systemd+%2B%22sendmail.service%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&&channel=sb
>
> What do they know?
>
>
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the maj
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Ludovic Meyer wrote:
> >On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> >>>Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
> >>>occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
> >>>app
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
scripts. I just wen
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> >Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
> >occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
> >applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
> >scripts. I just went through th
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
scripts. I just went through the documentation, and in some cases, the
source trees, for the following:
On Lu, 17 nov 14, 07:29:00, Marty wrote:
> On 11/17/2014 01:13 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >On Du, 16 nov 14, 13:22:54, Marty wrote:
> >>On 11/16/2014 11:50 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> >>
> >>>In the later case, one just has to read:
> >>>http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibi
On 11/17/2014 01:13 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 16 nov 14, 13:22:54, Marty wrote:
On 11/16/2014 11:50 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>In the later case, one just has to read:
>http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities/
>to get very, very scared
Each one a bug as per De
On Du, 16 nov 14, 13:22:54, Marty wrote:
> On 11/16/2014 11:50 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
> >In the later case, one just has to read:
> >http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities/
> >to get very, very scared
>
> Each one a bug as per Debian policy (sysvinit support). Loo
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 16 nov 14, 11:50:25, Miles Fidelman wrote:
So... with systemd, one has to:
- rely on packagers to generate systemd service files, and/or,
- rely on systemd's support for sysvinit scripts, which
In the later case, one just has to read:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki
Le Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:50:25 -0500,
Miles Fidelman a écrit :
[...]
> So... with systemd, one has to:
> - rely on packagers to generate systemd service files, and/or,
> - rely on systemd's support for sysvinit scripts, which
>
> In the later case, one just has to read:
> http://www.freedesktop.or
On 11/16/2014 11:50 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
In the later case, one just has to read:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities/
to get very, very scared
Each one a bug as per Debian policy (sysvinit support). Looks like we
have our work cut out for us.
Among the
On Du, 16 nov 14, 11:50:25, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
> So... with systemd, one has to:
> - rely on packagers to generate systemd service files, and/or,
> - rely on systemd's support for sysvinit scripts, which
>
> In the later case, one just has to read:
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:50:25AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
> occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
> applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
> scripts.
>
> I just went through t
Amy Templeton wrote:
> I have a (hopefully) quick question...is it possible to
> create a runlevel nearly identical to the default runlevel
> (this is 2, correct? Also, do 3-5 have different
> characteristics?) or else use one of the other runlevels in
> order to start different programs at boot? I
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Amy Templeton wrote:
> Also, on the topic of the Internet, is there any daemon-type
> program I could run which would watch for my unplugging the
> computer from the network and then maybe poll for a wireless
> connection if there's one around? I mean,
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Od: "L.V.Gandhi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Do: debian-user
Data: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 12:29:30 +0530
Temat: init scripts
> 1) In /etc/inittab run level is 2. In etc/rc2.d/ there is no
> discover/hotplug link. But discover and hotplug are run. How is it
possible?
> 2) I get i
Thomas Hood wrote:
Thomas Adam wrote:
1. As far as bootlogd is concerned, do the following:
# apt-get install bootlogd
No such package.
bootlogd is actually included in the sysvinit package.
You turn it on by setting BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes in /etc/default/bootlogd.
As for syslog this is aut
--- Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 01 July 2004 01:00 pm, MillTek wrote:
>
> > I tried apt-cache search 'various-versions-of-bootlogd' and had no
> luck
> > either??
>
> It's not there in Sid. You're not crazy.
It's part of the packages:
initscripts
sysvinit
-- Thomas Adam
On Thursday 01 July 2004 01:00 pm, MillTek wrote:
> I tried apt-cache search 'various-versions-of-bootlogd' and had no luck
> either??
It's not there in Sid. You're not crazy.
> Also, I'd still like the name of one of the standard scripts that I can
> change to have it do stuff. Maybe one of t
Thomas Adam wrote:
> 1. As far as bootlogd is concerned, do the following:
> # apt-get install bootlogd
No such package.
bootlogd is actually included in the sysvinit package.
You turn it on by setting BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes in /etc/default/bootlogd.
> As for syslog this is automatically started up
Thomas Adam wrote:
--- MillTek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
HI,
There are several things I'd like to do at boot time, includingstart
bootlogd and syslog. I've been told to set up an 'init script' etc.
Where do you do this? Is there a specific script that is always
accessed and if so which on
Thomas Adam wrote:
--- MillTek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
HI,
There are several things I'd like to do at boot time, includingstart
bootlogd and syslog. I've been told to set up an 'init script' etc.
Where do you do this? Is there a specific script that is always
accessed and if so which on
--- MillTek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> HI,
> There are several things I'd like to do at boot time, includingstart
> bootlogd and syslog. I've been told to set up an 'init script' etc.
> Where do you do this? Is there a specific script that is always
> accessed and if so which one?
I answer
--- MillTek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> H,
> Can someone please tell me the name and location of an Init script that
> I can use to run a sctript of my own? If I write a script that is
If you mean writing your own initscript, a template (as documented in the
manpage) is available:
/etc/init.
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 02:18:11PM -0400, MillTek wrote:
> H,
> Can someone please tell me the name and location of an Init script that
> I can use to run a sctript of my own? If I write a script that is
> executed by one of the 'official' scripts, do I have to do anything
> special to return c
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 12:11:30PM +0100, Francois Chenais wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is there any "standard method" under debian to add/remove shell @
>boot/shutdown time in /etc/rc.* directories ?
>
> Like chk-config under R.H. in fact.
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> François
man
Francois Chenais wrote:
>
> Is there any "standard method" under debian to add/remove
> shell @ boot/shutdown time in /etc/rc.* directories ?
>
> Like chk-config under R.H. in fact.
As another poster mentioned update-rc.d is related to this. But I
have to ask, what package do you wa
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:38:23 +, Gee Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Hi,
|
| update-rc.d might help.
|
Thanks you
François
| Gee.
|
| On 2003.01.20 11:11 Francois Chenais wrote:
| > Hello,
| >
| > Is there any "standard method" under debian to add/remove
Hi,
update-rc.d might help.
Gee.
On 2003.01.20 11:11 Francois Chenais wrote:
Hello,
Is there any "standard method" under debian to add/remove
shell @ boot/shutdown time in /etc/rc.* directories ?
Like chk-config under R.H. in fact.
Thanks a lot.
François
--
Gee Law gee(at)dizzyduck(d
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 07:03:16PM -0500, Timothy C. Fanelli wrote:
| Anyone out there have experience with GNU/Hurd?
No spare hardware to play :-(. Try the hurd list.
-D
--
In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have
told you. I am going there to prepare a place f
Excellent - thank you much... I'm gunna try those kernel opts now, and
hopefully that'll fix my problem and I won't need dhcpcd anymore --
Just for the record, dhclient would execute without errors, but would not
remain resident - although I never checked the log.
Anyone out there have experience
"Timothy C. Fanelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> D --
>
> dhclient worked great for me too until I upgraded the kernel to a custom
> 2.4.17... I'm wondering if maybe it's got something to do with that I
> compile the network device driver into the kernel instead of as a module
> like it is in t
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 03:33:56PM -0500, Timothy C. Fanelli wrote:
| D --
|
| dhclient worked great for me too until I upgraded the kernel to a custom
| 2.4.17... I'm wondering if maybe it's got something to do with that I
| compile the network device driver into the kernel instead of as a module
D --
dhclient worked great for me too until I upgraded the kernel to a custom
2.4.17... I'm wondering if maybe it's got something to do with that I
compile the network device driver into the kernel instead of as a module
like it is in the 2.2.20 kernel?
So how do I tell ifup/ifdown to use dhcpcd
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:49:22 -0500 (EST) "Timothy C. Fanelli" <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey All --
>
> Ok, so I'm a debian-newbie... switching over on my laptop from Slackware,
> mainly because I want to start playing with the GNU/Hurd and I needed a
> cross compiler. I've been interested in l
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 02:49:22PM -0500, Timothy C. Fanelli wrote:
> Can anyone either point me in the direction of, or send and explanation
> of, the init scripts and what they do?
Start with /etc/init.d/README and "man init". There are further
pointers in those docs.
To find out which script
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 02:49:22PM -0500, Timothy C. Fanelli wrote:
| Hey All --
|
| Ok, so I'm a debian-newbie... switching over on my laptop from Slackware,
| mainly because I want to start playing with the GNU/Hurd and I needed a
| cross compiler. I've been interested in learning Debian for a w
To quote kmself@ix.netcom.com,
# Netiquette cop.
#
# I tend to consider a CC: request appropriate. It'd the "please reply
# off list" that I'll comment on. Strangers mailing me *directly*
# off-list with questions or followups get their knees bashed in .
You'll have to forgive me, then ;) Some
on Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 12:27:07AM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg ([EMAIL
PROTECTED]) wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > P.S. Please CC: me as I am not currently subscribed
> > to debian-user
>
> Hmm, posting to a mailinglist without actually being subs
Rob wrote:
Hello,
Occasionally I install a Debian package that I
do not want to start everytime I boot. In this
situation, I usually use update-rc.d and either
stick the init script into a specific runlevel
or just remove it from all runlevels.
This works fine, however, when I do an upgrade
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Occasionally I install a Debian package that I
>do not want to start everytime I boot. In this
>situation, I usually use update-rc.d and either
>stick the init script into a specific runlevel
>or just remove it from all runlevels.
>
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Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 15:57:58 -0800
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To: Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: init scripts
Rob wrote:
>
Rob wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Occasionally I install a Debian package that I
> do not want to start everytime I boot. In this
> situation, I usually use update-rc.d and either
> stick the init script into a specific runlevel
> or just remove it from all runlevels.
>
> This works fine, however, when
> netbase 3.09-1 (in hamm) includes ipchains, including all documentation
> (and /etc/init.d/netbase has a spoof protection setup)
oki doki .. i guess i missed that..
but what about ipmasq? i guess im not smart enugh ;)
i need to masq packets from eth0 (192.168.0.x) to ppp0
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On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Michael [badpixel / bad sector] wrote:
> hi!
>
> does anyone have network init scripts, that uses ipchains for ip spoofing
> protection etc.?
>
> i would also like to see how ip_masq i done using ipchains! :)
netbase 3.09-1 (in hamm) includes ipchains, including all document
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