Re: [Solved - sorta - part 2] Re: how to switch a Debian buster system from systemd to sys-v init

2019-06-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Rick Thomas (2019-06-26 09:13:37) > Hi Jonas, > > > On Jun 25, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > > Would be helpful to know if those experiencing long pause in > > dbus-depending environments had _no_ dbus installed (and actively > > running) or had it running with elogi

Re: [Solved - sorta - part 2] Re: how to switch a Debian buster system from systemd to sys-v init

2019-06-26 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Jonas, > On Jun 25, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Would be helpful to know if those experiencing long pause in > dbus-depending environments had _no_ dbus installed (and actively > running) or had it running with elogind. How can I tell which situation I have? Thanks! Ric

Re: [Solved - sorta - part 2] Re: how to switch a Debian buster system from systemd to sys-v init

2019-06-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Rick Thomas (2019-06-25 03:32:41) > > On Jun 23, 2019, at 2:24 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 05:45:39PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: > >> > >> Purely out of curiosity, I'd like to see what's involved in > >> switching a Debian buster system from systemd to sysv

Re: [Solved - sorta - part 2] Re: how to switch a Debian buster system from systemd to sys-v init

2019-06-25 Thread Dan Ritter
Rick Thomas wrote: > > In any case, the solution I came up with is > > apt-get --purge install -y sysvinit-core dbus- glib-networking- > libgtk-3-0- > apt-get --purge autoremove > > Note the trailing minus-signs on dbus- glib-networking- libgtk-3-0- These > packages need to be delete

[Solved - sorta - part 2] Re: how to switch a Debian buster system from systemd to sys-v init

2019-06-24 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Jun 23, 2019, at 2:24 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 05:45:39PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: >> >> Purely out of curiosity, I'd like to see what's involved in >> switching a Debian buster system from systemd to sysv init. > > The short version [1]: > > apt-get ins

[Solved - sorta - part 1] Re: how to switch a Debian buster system from systemd to sys-v init

2019-06-24 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Jun 23, 2019, at 2:24 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 05:45:39PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: >> >> Purely out of curiosity, I'd like to see what's involved in >> switching a Debian buster system from systemd to sysv init. > > The short version [1]: > > apt-get ins

Re: how to switch a Debian buster system from systemd to sys-v init

2019-06-23 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 01:27:08PM +0200, arne wrote: > > > That's right. "Modern" desktop environments (Gnome and derivatives, > > most probably also KDE) depend these days on systemd. I don't know > > how hard those dependencies are -- you'd want to look at Devuan [2] > > [3] to see how far they

Re: how to switch a Debian buster system from systemd to sys-v init

2019-06-23 Thread arne
> That's right. "Modern" desktop environments (Gnome and derivatives, > most probably also KDE) depend these days on systemd. I don't know > how hard those dependencies are -- you'd want to look at Devuan [2] > [3] to see how far they went, if at all, into fixing this. The Devuan default desktop

Re: how to switch a Debian buster system from systemd to sys-v init

2019-06-23 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 05:45:39PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Purely out of curiosity, I'd like to see what's involved in > switching a Debian buster system from systemd to sysv init. The short version [1]: apt-get install -y sysvinit-core > Please, I don't want to restart or get involved