On Fri, 25 Sep 2015, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2015-08-31 15:41:01 -0500, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > For the record, lines starting with From are often escaped with > to
> > avoid issues with mbox. So Vincent didn't purposefully prepend > to
> > that.
>
> That's Debian's mailing-list software that
On 2015-08-31 15:41:01 -0500, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2015, David Wright wrote:
> > Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net):
> > > From the terminal point of view, the shell is just like another
> > > process.
> >
> > Just to make it clear: I didn't write that, even though you'v
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015, David Wright wrote:
> Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net):
> > From the terminal point of view, the shell is just like another
> > process.
>
> Just to make it clear: I didn't write that, even though you've made it
> appear that I did by putting ">" in front of it.
F
Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net):
> On 2015-08-21 22:08:33 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net):
> > > No, here's what I said:
> > >
> > > | In general, one wants NO-BREAK SPACE to be displayed just like
> > > | a space. The differentiation is use
On 2015-08-21 22:08:33 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net):
> > No, here's what I said:
> >
> > | In general, one wants NO-BREAK SPACE to be displayed just like
> > | a space. The differentiation is useful mainly in source code
> > | and when editing, thus it
Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net):
> On 2015-08-21 08:36:43 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > Quoting Erwan David (er...@rail.eu.org):
> > > 1) You're speaking input, Vincent was speaking output
> >
> > Eh? The OP was speaking input. To summarise,
> > . Q: How come i wrote a NO-BREAK SPAC
On 2015-08-21 08:36:43 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> Quoting Erwan David (er...@rail.eu.org):
> > 1) You're speaking input, Vincent was speaking output
>
> Eh? The OP was speaking input. To summarise,
> . Q: How come i wrote a NO-BREAK SPACE in xterm+bash ?
> . A: I touched the key to the left of
Quoting Erwan David (er...@rail.eu.org):
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 04:56:54AM CEST, David Wright
> said:
> > Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net):
> > > On 2015-08-19 16:33:09 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > > Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net):
> > > > > But the typographical pu
On 2015-08-21 07:30:18 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 04:56:54AM CEST, David Wright
> said:
> > Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net):
> > > On 2015-08-19 16:33:09 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > > Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net):
> > > > > But the typograp
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 04:56:54AM CEST, David Wright
said:
> Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net):
> > On 2015-08-19 16:33:09 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net):
> > > > But the typographical purpose of NO-BREAK SPACE is to look
> > > > like space
Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net):
> On 2015-08-19 12:55:39 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net):
> > > In general, one wants NO-BREAK SPACE to be displayed just like a space.
> >
> > Why would I want a character that doesn't behave as a space to b
Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net):
> On 2015-08-19 16:33:09 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net):
> > > But the typographical purpose of NO-BREAK SPACE is to look
> > > like space without inviting an automatic line break.
> > > So making it look not l
On 2015-08-19 16:33:09 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net):
> > But the typographical purpose of NO-BREAK SPACE is to look
> > like space without inviting an automatic line break.
> > So making it look not like space would be absurd.
>
> But shell input is not a
On 2015-08-19 12:55:39 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net):
> > In general, one wants NO-BREAK SPACE to be displayed just like a space.
>
> Why would I want a character that doesn't behave as a space to be
> displayed as a normal space? (For example, in the sh
On 08/20/2015 01:59 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
Hi,
In general, one wants NO-BREAK SPACE to be displayed just like a space.
Why would I want a character that doesn't behave as a space to be displayed
as a normal space? (For example, in the shell, as in the OP's original
question.)
It seems a re
On 20/08/15 06:59, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
If you are talking about console use, indeed I would not know why I would want
/ need it there.
Because you might be using your terminal to edit an input file for a
document processing system which contains the character, or to create
new files that co
Hi,
>> In general, one wants NO-BREAK SPACE to be displayed just like a space.
>
> Why would I want a character that doesn't behave as a space to be displayed
> as a normal space? (For example, in the shell, as in the OP's original
> question.)
> It seems a recipe for confusion at best, and for
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net):
> David Wright wrote:
> > Why would I want a character that doesn't behave as a space to be
> > displayed as a normal space?
>
> That's the question about the use case.
> I don't have one. So i made Alt+Spacebar behave like Spacebar.
That's what I'm att
Hi,
sorry for sending this mail to the wrong thread on the
first try.
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David Wright wrote:
> Why would I want a character that doesn't behave as a space to be
> displayed as a normal space?
That's the question about the use case.
I d
Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net):
> On 2015-08-11 14:22:23 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > i wrote:
> > > > Mine is a US QWERTY. Two "Alt" keys, no "AltGr".
> >
> > Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > It is written "Alt" on US keyboards, and "Alt Gr" on US-International
> > > and non-US keyb
On 2015-08-11 14:22:23 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i wrote:
> > > Mine is a US QWERTY. Two "Alt" keys, no "AltGr".
>
> Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > It is written "Alt" on US keyboards, and "Alt Gr" on US-International
> > and non-US keyboards.
>
> As X events mine are distinguished as A
Hi,
i wrote:
> > Mine is a US QWERTY. Two "Alt" keys, no "AltGr".
Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> It is written "Alt" on US keyboards, and "Alt Gr" on US-International
> and non-US keyboards.
As X events mine are distinguished as Alt_L and Alt_R.
(After all the translation stories i am not sure whether
Hi,
On 2015-08-10 16:52:04 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > Well, it seems that there's some confusion. By "Alt", I meant the
> > ISO_Level3_Shift key, which is bound to the physical Alt and AltGr
> > keys in my keyboard configuration.
>
> Mine is a US QWERTY. Two "Alt" keys, no "AltGr".
> http
On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 12:39:32PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Next The Onion headline: a disgruntled Debian user opens fire at a X.org
Is that some sort of American reference?
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"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the pe
Hi,
> Well, it seems that there's some confusion. By "Alt", I meant the
> ISO_Level3_Shift key, which is bound to the physical Alt and AltGr
> keys in my keyboard configuration.
Mine is a US QWERTY. Two "Alt" keys, no "AltGr".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Keyboard
xkbdcomp reports it
Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net):
> On 2015-08-10 13:02:07 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > On my Debian/unstable machine, Alt-space gives a normal space in
> > > xterm. There must be something else in the user's config.
> >
> > Do you have any "Translation
On 2015-08-10 13:02:07 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > On my Debian/unstable machine, Alt-space gives a normal space in
> > xterm. There must be something else in the user's config.
>
> Do you have any "Translation" among the xterm resources ?
>
> appres XTerm | fgrep
Hi,
Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On my Debian/unstable machine, Alt-space gives a normal space in
> xterm. There must be something else in the user's config.
Do you have any "Translation" among the xterm resources ?
appres XTerm | fgrep ransl
yields on my machine only my individual workaround
On 2015-08-09 14:24:44 +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> In other words, at the XKB level, the space key is the most boring key
> ever. The conversion to non-break-space happens because of XTerm or its
> libraries.
On my Debian/unstable machine, Alt-space gives a normal space in
xterm. There must be
Le duodi 22 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Thomas Schmitt a écrit :
> I guess Alt+Spacebar is about
>
> interpret Alt_L+AnyOf(all) {
> virtualModifier= Alt;
> action= SetMods(modifiers=modMapMods,clearLocks);
> };
I do not think so. IIUC, it means that Alt_L enables the Alt virtua
Hi,
Nicolas George wrote:
> I suppose everybody already knows this, but to check what keys applications
> receive from the X11 server, the xev program can be of great help.
Praise xev.
> xkbcomp $DISPLAY -
Nothing conclusive to see about "space" or "SPCE".
> The xkb_types section defines type
On 2015-08-09 12:39:32 +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> If everything was not already complicated enough, shift, control and
> caps-lock have each a fixed value in the state mask, but all the other
> modifiers (from num-lock to alt-gr, including meta and super) arrive to the
> application as mod1 to
Le duodi 22 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Thomas Schmitt a écrit :
> Still trying to grok the xkb stuff, i get the impression
> that at least on my system xterm gets to see Alt+Space, not a
> "nobreakspace" produced by general keyboard translations.
I suppose everybody already knows this, but to check wh
Hi,
David Wright wrote:
> Poking around in /usr/share/X1/xkb/ I can see that rules/base has lines
> like:
>nbsp:level4 = +nbsp(level4)
> // level3 & level3ns provide no-breaking spaces starting from level3
> // This is good for typographers but experience shows many users accidently
> // type
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net):
> My sunday afternoon endeavor:
>
> xev shows Alt+Space as four separate events:
> Alt down, Space down, Space up, Alt up.
> So it's not X which introduces the unwanted spaceoid.
> od -x shows it as "a0c2". So here the translation has happened
> already
Hi
On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 10:54 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i just had some interesting minutes with this riddle in bash
> on xterm:
>
> $ ls -l .. | wc
> ls: cannot access .. : No such file or directory
>
> The refusal sticks to the command in libreadline's history
> buffer and t
Hi,
i wrote:
> > od -x shows it as "a0c2".
David Wright wrote:
> I think that's c2a0 (unfortunately we're little-endian).
I would expect so. But it's
$ echo " " | od -x
000 a0c2 000a
003
$ echo " " | od -t x1
000 c2 a0 0a
003
> You could try xrdb -merge $HOME/.Xr
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net):
> My sunday afternoon endeavor:
>
> xev shows Alt+Space as four separate events:
> Alt down, Space down, Space up, Alt up.
> So it's not X which introduces the unwanted spaceoid.
> od -x shows it as "a0c2". So here the translation has happened
> already.
Hi,
David Wright wrote:
> I tried Alt-Space and that's enough:
> ls .. ..
> ls: cannot access .. ..: No such file or directory
Yes. I meanwhile found out the same by banging my forehead
to the keyboard. It's an xterm thing.
> so I think you'll have the problem every once in a while.
Not with
On Sunday 02 August 2015 15:58:27 David Wright wrote:
> Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net):
> > Finally i found out that the refusing command line does not
> > have an ASCII Blank (decimal 32) before the pipe symbol
> > but rather UTF-8 code (194,160) which means U+00A0
> > "NO-BREAK SPACE"
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net):
> Finally i found out that the refusing command line does not
> have an ASCII Blank (decimal 32) before the pipe symbol
> but rather UTF-8 code (194,160) which means U+00A0
> "NO-BREAK SPACE".
> Obviously this does not count as whitespace in bash (vanill
On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 20:56:51 +, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On 2011-04-02, Tapio Lehtonen wrote:
>> Lenny can not install bind9 update in the usual upgrade way, because
>> this upgrade needs two package removals and two new packages to be
>> installed. I think this should be mentioned in the securi
On 2011-04-02, Tapio Lehtonen wrote:
> Lenny can not install bind9 update in the usual upgrade way, because
> this upgrade needs two package removals and two new packages to be
> installed. I think this should be mentioned in the security note of this
> bind9 upgrade or otherwise inform users s
Stephen Powell wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:41:43 -0400 (EDT), Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
How come the latest linux-image-2.6-686 in Sid is:
http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-headers-2.6-686
and is set to linux-image-2.6-686 (2.6.32+24) while apt-cache policy
linux-image-2.6-686 gives:
linux
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:41:43 -0400 (EDT), Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>
> How come the latest linux-image-2.6-686 in Sid is:
>
> http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-headers-2.6-686
>
> and is set to linux-image-2.6-686 (2.6.32+24) while apt-cache policy
> linux-image-2.6-686 gives:
>
> linux-image-
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> How come the latest linux-image-2.6-686 in Sid is:
>
> http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-headers-2.6-686
>
> and is set to linux-image-2.6-686 (2.6.32+24) while apt-cache policy
> linux-image-2.6-686 gives:
>
> linux-image-2.6-686:
> In
On 4/9/2010 10:41 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Hi,
How come the latest linux-image-2.6-686 in Sid is:
http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-headers-2.6-686
and is set to linux-image-2.6-686 (2.6.32+24) while apt-cache policy
linux-image-2.6-686 gives:
linux-image-2.6-686:
Installed: 2.6.32+25
Ca
On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:40:34PM -0500, Stefhen Hovland wrote:
> I dont know if this has been asked before, but one thing I notice which
> is missing from .deb's is a field for a package's homepage URL. This was a
> nice
> thing with gentoo ebuilds, in that there was a homepage field for each
>
Stefhen Hovland wrote:
I am sure about 99% of
packages out there have a homepage
I think the ratio is much smaller than that but I will not offer a
figure myself :-) Most packages have the URL, where applicable, in the
copyright file for the program.
I wouldn't like to see debian become to
Hello *,
On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 10:27:14PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> [...]
> In short, once the specifics get hammered out, it will likely happen.
> Not sure if it will make it in time for the Etch release, but it will
> happen eventually.
And until this might happen the Developer's Ref
On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:40:34PM -0500, Stefhen Hovland wrote:
> I dont know if this has been asked before, but one thing I notice which
> is missing from .deb's is a field for a package's homepage URL.
Well, you can always go to:
http://packages.debian.org/
But that is the homepage for the De
On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:40:34PM -0500, Stefhen Hovland wrote:
> I dont know if this has been asked before, but one thing I notice which
> is missing from .deb's is a field for a package's homepage URL. This was a
> nice
> thing with gentoo ebuilds, in that there was a homepage field for each
>
> >
> > Search for the name of the packge in http://packages.gentoo.org/ then click
> > on
> > the homepage link ^^
> >
that's great, but i dont want to have to depend on the gentoo webpage
for info on debian packages..
Stefhen Hovland wrote:
I dont know if this has been asked before, but one thing I notice which
is missing from .deb's is a field for a package's homepage URL. This was a nice
thing with gentoo ebuilds, in that there was a homepage field for each package,
so it was nice and easy for me to cut and
The gs-aladdin_4.03-6.deb package (or a newer version) is in non-free.
Ioannis Tambouras
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PGP 768/429EE365, West Palm Beach, Florida
On Mon, 20 Jan 1997, Robert Nicholson wrote:
> Isn't it regarded that the Aladdin ghostscript offers better
> fonts/features?
>
>
> --
> TO U
Hi,
Robert Nicholson wrote:
>
> Isn't it regarded that the Aladdin ghostscript offers better
> fonts/features?
This is in ~/non-free/ as gs-aladdin_4.03-7.deb
Later,
David
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On Mon, 20 Jan 1997, Robert Nicholson wrote:
> Isn't it regarded that the Aladdin ghostscript offers better
> fonts/features?
>
It is in the non-free part of the tree as 'gs-aladdin'
Cheers,
Carlo
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On Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:43:26 EST Robert Nicholson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
om) wrote:
> Isn't it regarded that the Aladdin ghostscript offers better
> fonts/features?
Aladdin ghostscript comes with the non-free debian section. Look it there under
gs-aladdin.
Phil.
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> On Sat, 21 Dec 1996, Walter Tautz wrote:
>
> > I am curious as to why there is no `Reply to' field from this list? Is
> > this a deliberate technique to decrease traffic. Just wondering...
>
> Because "Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" is evil. :
Test of the reply to by responding `y' to reply to all
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On Sat, 21 Dec 1996, Walter Tautz wrote:
> I am curious as to why there is no `Reply to' field from this list? Is
> this a deliberate technique to decrease traffic. Just wondering...
Because "Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" is evil. :-)
Actually, I had a pointer to a site that explained why Reply-t
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